the petronas with NGV rite ?

how come he alone oso can rob u ??

MobileMe uses GPS right?

if the thief lives in high rise or anywhere with a weak signal then still GPS cant lock

i think he said he locked it.

er parang wins all.

Hi TS,
sorry to hijack this thread.

Everyone,
My iphone 3gs oso kena rompak in kepong area.
Now the thief got caught according to police and police department is holding my phone as evidence.
How can i get it back? Wait until the case closes first? i heard that there's a form to retrieve my stuffs back, is that correct?
I am really frustrating now.
Any good suggestions will be appreciated greatly.

This post has been edited by rockccf: Aug 5 2009, 10:20 AM

ur 1 lucky man.

Today is the third day my iPhone 3GS missing, i am really miss my beauty white baby...
Maybe if my rezeki come again i will buy another iPhone 3GS...
May god punishment the theft and send him to hell when he die
By the way, is it have possible way to track my iPhone?

Maybe u can hv a try at the store.
Try asking any 2nd hand Ifon.
check for their EMEI.

If found, den jz lodge a report.
U might get the phone back.

Consider tak de rezeki aje lah,
coz,maybe ada hikmah di sebalik Incident,
insyallah after tis GOD gave u more Rezeki,
believed me..

QUOTE(rockccf @ Aug 5 2009, 10:03 AM)

Hi TS,
sorry to hijack this thread.

Everyone,
My iphone 3gs oso kena rompak in kepong area.
Now the thief got caught according to police and police department is holding my phone as evidence.
How can i get it back? Wait until the case closes first? i heard that there's a form to retrieve my stuffs back, is that correct?
I am really frustrating now.
Any good suggestions will be appreciated greatly.

Let me help you out with that, my wife's phone also got robbed once, she was speaking on her phone in Mentari park and someone came from behind while she was entering her car and snatched the phone away. Gutsy lady she was she ran after him, he was already on the bike behind her car ready to run away and she did well..if you watch wrestling and know who's Edge, she did a spear on him and got him off his bike.

She shouted for help and was holding the guy down. All this while I was on the phone with her. Anyway that's another story. She got help allright, there was 2 restaurants at each side and folks in there rushed out, whacked the thief and held him till the police came.

I came much later to the police station, my wife was there earlier. The phone was held as evidence. Itll be used in court later. They held on to the phone for 3 days after which it was released with a form in which it mentions that my wife must attend to court in a maximum of 3 months from the date, of which the phone must not change its nature of outlook and of use. That means if you are using a scratched up Nokia with a Maxis number, it will still have to be same scratched up phone ( no changing of covers, even adding on protection of any sort ) and still must show in effect a Maxis number.

Called 2 months later, she didnt have to give testimony, her phone however was used as evidence and the culprit got 9 years jail with 2 whips a day. Pretty harsh, but hers wasnt the first phone stolen by the guy, when they caught him, he already had 5 phones and 8 different purse stolen and he's a repeat offender.

So thats it. You can get the phone back provided you promise nothing changes till the case is called.

Thanks for your comment!!!

The inspector just keeps telling me to wait and wait and wait...i am not sure if he's really doing something about my case, he even took my ic and driving license as evidence, i mean can he actually do that?

I am really upset...but after knowing your's wife case, i feel lighter now. However, you were saying that they held on to the phone for 3 days which means 3 days in court or totally they held the phone in police station for 3 days? For my case, it's more than 3 days already and i think it's still held in the police station.
Do you still remember what that form is called? I think it's called form 413 right?

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Added on August 7, 2009, 4:18 pmHmm....not really...
I used that phone for less than 2 days.
Now it's being held by the police, not sure if they will give it back to me....soon...

This post has been edited by rockccf: Aug 7 2009, 04:18 PM

much respect to your gutsy wife.

QUOTE(rockccf @ Aug 7 2009, 03:57 PM)

Thanks for your comment!!!

The inspector just keeps telling me to wait and wait and wait...i am not sure if he's really doing something about my case, he even took my ic and driving license as evidence, i mean can he actually do that?

I am really upset...but after knowing your's wife case, i feel lighter now. However, you were saying that they held on to the phone for 3 days which means 3 days in court or totally they held the phone in police station for 3 days? For my case, it's more than 3 days already and i think it's still held in the police station.
Do you still remember what that form is called? I think it's called form 413 right?

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Added on August 7, 2009, 4:18 pm

Hmm....not really...
I used that phone for less than 2 days.
Now it's being held by the police, not sure if they will give it back to me....soon...

Sorry, didnt check the forums for quite a while been preety busy.
Yep 3 days in the police possesion. And also yes correct form 413.
In court it was just 30 minutes brought in as evidence although you also need to be present.

As police he has a right to demand your IC and Driving License but then again, he should at least
give you something to show he has them ie receipt or something like that, as in what if suddenly you get caught jaywalking and someone thought you came from some weird country

QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Aug 9 2009, 11:52 AM)

much respect to your gutsy wife.

Haha thanks boss!
Although at that time I did think she was a little crazy doing that Edge spear like that

Ic...Now my iphone is being held by the police, shouldn't they give me a receipt or something? to prove that they actually have my staff with them?
Thanks.

This post has been edited by rockccf: Aug 12 2009, 12:03 AM

QUOTE(rockccf @ Aug 12 2009, 12:03 AM)

Ic...Now my iphone is being held by the police, shouldn't they give me a receipt or something? to prove that they actually have my staff with them?
Thanks.

Yes they have to. Evidence or not, that item belongs to you and must be returned to you in the end as the rightful owner. Ask for an acknowledgement slip or something like which shows its in their possesion. If you leave it at that the iphone will be 'lost' in the system.

In short, you wont get anything back. Pretty much would have been better to have lost in to the thief in the first place if its going to go to another thief anyway right ? So go, its your right to bug them and to get that acknowledgement slip, the item is yours to begin with, they only should hold on to it as evidence and not for their use.

I did ask actually.
Now the police only gives me back my ic and license, however when I ask that police whether i should sign something like "receipt" or not...the inspector said "tak payah"~~~

And when i wanted to get back the phone, he said it's evidence, can only be released after the case is "closed"!
When i asked him about the form 413, he said no such thing at first, he even asked me who says got such form called form 413...
Afterwards, when i asked again, he said "kalau saya serah handphone itu kepada kamu, boleh kamu tanggungjawab tak? jika kamu kena rompak lagi, hilang atau apa-apa, boleh kamu tanggung tak?"...and i answered him "boleh"...he still dun wan give me back.
hai...really getting frustrated with this inspector.
What should i do? Wait???

allow the perompak to use the phone to indetify the calls he made. then track him like a hyena tracking a sick buffalo.

about the policeman keeping the phone from you, i think u should talk to his supervisor or someone in charge.
very often the public gets bullied because we dont know our rights.
so stand up for your rights man.

QUOTE(rockccf @ Aug 12 2009, 05:28 PM)

Afterwards, when i asked again, he said "kalau saya serah handphone itu kepada kamu, boleh kamu tanggungjawab tak? jika kamu kena rompak lagi, hilang atau apa-apa, boleh kamu tanggung tak?"...and i answered him "boleh"...he still dun wan give me back.
hai...really getting frustrated with this inspector.
What should i do? Wait???

This is the exact questions that was asked of my wife. Which is also the reason why I mentioned earlier that nothing is to be changed on the Phone. Now to the next comment from nimrod2 he's right.

QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Aug 13 2009, 03:43 PM)

about the policeman keeping the phone from you, i think u should talk to his supervisor or someone in charge.
very often the public gets bullied because we dont know our rights.
so stand up for your rights man.

Youre right bro. There's a reason why people can come out on bail. Why stolen cars can be used back by the owners until the time the case is called. A case can take months or even years to be solved. Dont tell me that if someone stole your car, police finds the car, leaves the car in compound for 7 months till case is closed ( that is if youre lucky ). If its to leave your car for 7 months wouldnt it have just been better that the car is never found ?

Yes, request to speak to a supervisor or if he's running the place, ask advise from another police station, they shouldnt be holding the phone for that long. If its a murder weapon then yes. DNA's and everything on the item will be taken into account. Dont tell me that the police is keeping your iphone just to ensure the thief's DNA is on the phone ? That's a little on the absurd side.

This post has been edited by havocx: Aug 13 2009, 06:58 PM

well that is the case of most malaysians - either we're misinformed or just plain stupid.

the reason why policemen fear lawyers are simply because they know their rights, and thus cannot be bullied.
the policemen are there for a reason and they are to serve the public in the most efficient manner possible.

i bet if you complain about asking his supervisor, that officer will start treating you nicely.

The inspector told me that the case is going to last for 1 or 2 years....damn...i wont speak to him again, i will speak to someone else.....at first, he told me that the he can submit pictures of that phone, but now he telling me diff story...he said small portable devices cannot submit picture, only cars can.....I am so sicked!!! He's changing so fast...I dunno what his intention is....trying to own that phone or? whatever it is, i will go for someone else...