Oct 16 2009, 05:42 AM
QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Aug 3 2009, 12:46 PM)
i believe in free will...
no one can control yr future and neither should one let others or things(e.g. horoscopes,fate etc) to control it.
free will exists,no one can control yr future and neither should one let others or things(e.g. horoscopes,fate etc) to control it.
but you are "wrong" imho, that no one can control your future,
everybody is actually modifying, affecting, controlling another human destiny, choices, everyday,minute and second.
just as you reading what i am posting right now,i somehow already change your destiny.
if you are not spending the little few minutes to read, maybe you doing something else, and maybe you plan to meet with ur friend in oldtown, then somehow late by few minutes because of reading what i posted, then somehow this few minutes could change your friend entire life. and so on. this is all chain reaction and connected.
so, i could actually change this world and i am changing it daily. (from my point of view).
Added on October 16, 2009, 5:58 am
QUOTE(hazairi @ Aug 5 2009, 05:19 AM)
Well, u maybe right to question:
Therefore, if what we do has been destined by God, then God cannot blame us for our sins because He is the one who has decided our actions, including sinning.
I believe that God is just. The check and balance of our life will remain the same even if we end up in Hell.
If we are destined to be in hell because of our wrong doings in our lives, it's gonna be a fair game because God already gives us the pleasure when we commit all the wrong doings.
If we study how the prophets before this such as Moses, Jesus and Mohammad, though they will end up in paradise, but look at their lifetime. They suffered so much from the oppositions.
to above red colored part.Therefore, if what we do has been destined by God, then God cannot blame us for our sins because He is the one who has decided our actions, including sinning.
I believe that God is just. The check and balance of our life will remain the same even if we end up in Hell.
If we are destined to be in hell because of our wrong doings in our lives, it's gonna be a fair game because God already gives us the pleasure when we commit all the wrong doings.
If we study how the prophets before this such as Moses, Jesus and Mohammad, though they will end up in paradise, but look at their lifetime. They suffered so much from the oppositions.
the very dangerous part of this idea is, by believing God is just, it is actually a "perception" of human thoughts.
and subscribing that idea also mean, whatever God did, it would be just no matter what.
from my interview with God believer people, the ultimate idea that they usually hold is, "God is just".
and they need to hold this idea really tight otherwise, probably they wouldn't believe in God either.
but little did they knew, it is just a weak perception that they hold.
This post has been edited by sleepsleep: Oct 16 2009, 05:58 AM
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