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post Jul 30 2009, 12:20 PM, updated 17y ago

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Truth about Fat, Trans Fat, Saturated Fat & Nutrition



Eat the Damn Yolks! Eggs Are Good For You!

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Added on July 30, 2009, 12:24 pmSaturated fat isn't evil.

There's a need for people to understand how fat works first. I'm still in the process of studying about it, but I'm doing another research paper, so can't get much. Crap...

And I hope to be able to understand why carbs is so evil to numerous bodytypes. And why the hell fat and protein seems to work pretty consistently.

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post Jul 30 2009, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(~LynX~ @ Jul 30 2009, 02:44 PM)
Hmm, where to find 'free range organic' chicken eggs in Malaysia? Much of what the guy talks about applies to the US.

Also there seems to be conflicting advice about omega 3, the first video says its good while the second video says to avoid omega-3 eggs.
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That's why I say google can answer EVERYTHING. All you need to do is attempt to search. It's not just applicable to the USA. Malaysia have progress towards that direction too. Just that most of you people aren't aware of it.

http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&rlz=...nG=Search&meta=

I say Omega-3 eggs aren't worth the price. It's just this tiny trace of Omega-3 in the eggs, and you gotta pay a load more. I'd go with just the organic side.



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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 30 2009, 07:36 PM)
eggs are still eggs
beli kat pasar tani also same
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Oh how wrong you are my friend. How wrong. Even if you look at an egg, based on it's protein values alone, an egg isn't just an egg. And as we move along the other nutrients such Vitamin-A, Beta carotene, zinc, thiamine, it's quantities differ in the quality of your chicken. I skimmed past my brother's book about nutrients and food and the difference between a "kampung egg" (organic egg) and a commercially produced egg is quite shocking. Did you know, the density of nutrients in a kampung egg, (it differs per nutrient) is at least two times of an commercially produced egg?

Ah I found a link
Eggs aren't just eggs anymore my friend.

QUOTE(4Rings @ Jul 30 2009, 09:11 PM)
This is what I had been telling you guys 1 year ago.
Heck, how many actually believed me.  sad.gif

5.90 for 10 kampong eggs! shocking.gif
I bought mine at Pudu Pasar, 4.00 for 10 kampong eggs. I bought 2 trays each time.
They taste so much different that my friend asked me to buy 1 tray for her whenever I go to buy them.
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I did! Remember I asked you if I could use it for an athlete, but you weren't sure if it's suitable for weightlifters. That's why I decided against using it. Besides there was little or no documentary about such a diet used on athletes.
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post Jul 31 2009, 09:59 AM

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You mean this link?

http://www.cbn.com/health/naturalhealth/dr..._athletes1.aspx

I've always had this perception that strength and power is built via training, not via diet. I'll give a shot at adapting this 4.3.3. diet.


Added on July 31, 2009, 10:37 amYou guys know what I love about this thread? This sort of threads, usually separate the "I follow my friend say one" and the "I did some reading on this journal" people.

Needless to say, whom I think higher of

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post Jul 31 2009, 03:12 PM

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Here's something more easily digestible.

http://www.fit4younutrition.com/article7.html

Fat does not make you fat (unless you eat it with lots of carbs). Fat consumption whether saturated or unsaturated, causes no release of insulin and as a result promotes the burning of both dietary and stored fat as fuel (however you need to teach your body to do this and this can only happen if it is forced to rely on fat as a source of fuel ie sufficient fat is consumed while carbs are kept to a minimum). There’s no possibility of storing fat in fat cell unless insulin opens the receptors, and only eating sugar (ie carbs) can make that happen. Not only does it not make you fat, it is extremely important for several reasons:

However, not all fats are good. Hard and fast rule-if it was created by nature eat it, if its processed don’t.


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Lard, excellent source of fat biggrin.gif !
4rings....I know I always say I'm anti spoon feeding, but since you've the best experience in this, how would you have me do my dietary intake for a day?

I'm looking to consume somewhere between 3000-3200 calories in a single day. Using your 4:3:3 diet...I'd assume that I take 1200 calories from carbs, 900 calories from fat and protein.

So that's 300 grams from carbs
100 grams from fat
225 grams of protein

Sorry if this sounds a lil weird, but isn't that a lil high for the carbs if this was called a LOW carb diet?


Added on July 31, 2009, 9:46 pmOr is the ratio 4- protein, 3 carbs and fat?

That makes it 300 grams protein 225 carb and 100 fat?

That's like protein overload rite?

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QUOTE(shamfiz @ Aug 1 2009, 09:17 PM)
I think we should avoid all forms of fatty food. Peanut butter can't be good - it makes me breakout.
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Read the facts before jumping out and saying that.
It makes you look, less stupid
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QUOTE(4Rings @ Aug 1 2009, 08:31 AM)
Zone diet is 4:3:3, carbs: protein: fats.
If you follow the 1g protein per lb of body weight, your calories from carbs should be lower than that.
There's no harm experimenting which option works better for you instead of adhering to follow by the book rule.


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If I follow 1G of protein per LBS of bw, I'll be at 175GMS. That's only about 700 calories. I don't quite get you, but anyway I'm on day 2 of this moderately lower carb diet. It feels alright. Energy level however, isn't all that high.
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Aug 2 2009, 02:11 AM)
Penang right ? Where'd you get that ?

Considering the pity size of kampung eggs, I wonder whether kampung eggs really have twice the nutrients of commercial eggs ... well, you know, it's not only quality, there's quantity too and commercial eggs are twice the size of kampung eggs.
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He's in China.

I think the analogy of strength athletes and bodybuilders may fit this question. A bodybuilder can be three times the size of a weightlifter, but you see the weightlifters are generally stronger. Muscle size not equal to strength. Nutrient density not equals to size.

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Sometimes I just wish people discussed about the topic in hand, and not nitpick at tiny details that provide minimal or even absolutely no relevance in the discussion.
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Just to update. Day 4 of high protein, less carbs diet, there actually is some fat loss. Or muscle growth. At least it looks like that to me. Or maybe it's because I'm training twice a day. Either one, but at least I'm not getting weaker. Lethargic spell, not in. Maybe I'm not doing something right.
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 4 2009, 06:43 PM)
Hows the diet breakdown? What do you eat in the morning etc?
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I just have a couple pieces of bread or oats in the morning with eggs
Skip carbs during lunch
Have one relatively high carb (100GMS) meal before training
Protein shake
Normal dinner with extra meats and 1/3 the rice
Another shake

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I just read through quickly. But help me break this down. We've been led to believe that cholesterol is evil. However, cholesterol actually isn't. If there's a problem in the body, cholesterol fixes it (consistent with studies) If there's nothing, it just runs around doing nothing.

Yeah I can accept that.
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Aug 6 2009, 09:38 PM)
Also, note that cooking the eggs avails yourself of more of the protein content.
(PS Raw eggs in prairie oysters are goddamn delicious.)
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I never actually figured that one out. Why is it that, 6 GMS in the eggs, is better used by your body, when it's cooked? Is there something in that mix that makes the digestion tougher? Will HCL help?
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 8 2009, 12:39 AM)
I won't even go into the proper definition of "essential", which I don't think means "your body cannot produce it but still needs it" smile.gif
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You clearly thought wrong.
There's probably a reason why something is called "Essential". Go look the dictionary if you've not got your vocabulary brushed up in the recent decades.

Also on page 582, of my NASM textbook, it states clearly;

"Essential amino acids cannot be manufactured by the body therefore must be obtained from food other other exogenous source. Examples of essential amino acids;

Isoleucine
Leucine
Lysine
Valine

There's also a set of amino acids called "semi-essential" which means it can be produced, but cannot be synthesized fast enough to support development (especially in children) . These are arginine and histidine.



 

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