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TSThinkingfox
post Aug 6 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Aug 6 2009, 05:55 PM)
There is no life if no emotion, the entire living cycle is about feelings otherwise like animal and plant. This is a silly question coming from someone like you.
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But how can you be sure that there is no life without emotion?
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post Aug 7 2009, 11:29 AM

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Life without emotions...

1) Meaningless
2) Hard to predict what the person like & dislikes. Poker Face.
3) Boring coz everyone is the same, there will be no laughter as well. Like an android/puppet.
4) Dangerous - coz even when that person get hurt physically, he/she still continue..

There is only one thing i can think of that is good is no one can take advantage/play with your emotion anymore. Everyone thinking logically and maybe even lead to error free. You just work, work & work to execute tasks.

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post Aug 7 2009, 12:12 PM

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I am sure for myself living for 40 years, asking the kind of question like what is the purpose of living and the purpose to the creator and it lead to the believe of religion and another life after death.
I conclude that everyday life is driven by emotion, if there is another kind of life without emotion, certainly not any living things on earth and no point debating as there is no reason to.

The same question to why human must continue to multiply, while animals are driven by natural instinct, we human is afraid of old age and suffer from illness and need someone to take care of if not your own children, other than that is to feel the joy of raising children.

Man's sexual urge are suppose to make babies and it is the feeling of sensation that drive us to copulate. Love at first sight is actually lust because you can't love someone based on appearance and sex does not require love.

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post Aug 8 2009, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Aug 4 2009, 08:50 AM)
I disagree. I think crime, strife and conflicts will still happen. Level of competency won't be higher because I think emotions do a better job at driving you to compete. Efficiency however, is something I think can be improved without emotions as we can focus only at things that matter.
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Have you seen any living creature/animal without the ability for emotion? Even animals feel fear, loneliness, happiness, etc.

The only things i've seen without the ability for emotions are inanimate or dead objects, even bacterias and microorganisms have a sense of fear and instinct that enables them to survive.

Your disagreements aren't based on any logical form of explanation it's only an opinion, if you disagree please feel free to elaborate on what you've said.

Name a singular being or creature on earth that are without emotions, monks go through years of isolation to rid themselves of emotions so that they can abstain from sin, every single sin i can think of throughout history is linked with emotions. This to me isn't even an argument, emotions are needed to survive and live, even the most basic microorganisms have fear built in them as a survival instinct.

QUOTE(Thinkingfox @ Aug 4 2009, 04:17 PM)
I'm not too sure if there will be no crime, strife or conflict but I logically it will be less than if it involves beings with emotions, because emotion is the cause of many fight and wars.

I don't think we will go extinct because logically we would want to continue the works done in one generation and pass it on to the next, unless there is reason to believe that there are fewer advantages as compared to disadvantages for life to continue.
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Why would we want to pass it to the next generation? We have no emotions remember, we feel no joy, no happiness, no taste of success, no ambitions or aspirations. These are emotions....

As i continue i feel the futility of this conversation, life is essentially impossible without emotion. That is the reason why Sci-Fi movies of computers taking over the world is absolutely preposterous.

Machines do not have emotions and i cannot imagine how it would be even possible to build emotions into them, that would be like giving life to a dead object something only God is possible of.

A person without emotions is just like a machine, it will sit there doing nothing, because there isn't an urge to do so, no built in instinct for the heart to breathe to survive, no fear built in for the body to jerk itself up should it stop breathing. Have you seen a robot or car runaway when danger is approaching? Even the smartest robots are programmed to react in that manner, once a situation occurs that falls outside it's scope it goes back to it's emotionless state.

Perhaps a better frame of discussion would be minimizing the harmful aspects of emotions and maximizing the impact of positive emotions because as it is, no living organism can survive without emotions.
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post Aug 8 2009, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Tak3shi @ Aug 8 2009, 01:54 AM)
Have you seen any living creature/animal without the ability for emotion? Even animals feel fear, loneliness, happiness, etc.

The only things i've seen without the ability for emotions are inanimate or dead objects, even bacterias and microorganisms have a sense of fear and instinct that enables them to survive.

Your disagreements aren't based on any logical form of explanation it's only an opinion, if you disagree please feel free to elaborate on what you've said.

Name a singular being or creature on earth that are without emotions, monks go through years of isolation to rid themselves of emotions so that they can abstain from sin, every single sin i can think of throughout history is linked with emotions. This to me isn't even an argument, emotions are needed to survive and live, even the most basic microorganisms have fear built in them as a survival instinct.
Why would we want to pass it to the next generation? We have no emotions remember, we feel no joy, no happiness, no taste of success, no ambitions or aspirations. These are emotions....

As i continue i feel the futility of this conversation, life is essentially impossible without emotion. That is the reason why Sci-Fi movies of computers taking over the world is absolutely preposterous.

Machines do not have emotions and i cannot imagine how it would be even possible to build emotions into them, that would be like giving life to a dead object something only God is possible of.

A person without emotions is just like a machine, it will sit there doing nothing, because there isn't an urge to do so, no built in instinct for the heart to breathe to survive, no fear built in for the body to jerk itself up should it stop breathing. Have you seen a robot or car runaway when danger is approaching? Even the smartest robots are programmed to react in that manner, once a situation occurs that falls outside it's scope it goes back to it's emotionless state.

Perhaps a better frame of discussion would be minimizing the harmful aspects of emotions and maximizing the impact of positive emotions because as it is, no living organism can survive without emotions.
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A good post indeed. I have to agree on the fact that organismals ( humans ) can never live without emotions. However, it is also an undeniable fact that emotions do contribute in a negative manner. As we evolve ( i'm referring based on darwin's theory of evolution ), so does our emotion. We would always want to look at it as a positive form of progression where applying emotions in daily routines would yield beneficial results. There is a branch of intelligence that is described as emotional intelligence where we actually utilize emotions mainly to adapt to situations around us. The emotion now is a dependent form of variable. It is entirely up to our own consciousness to manage our expressions/emotions. A good example is when death occurs in a family, how do we adapt to that current situation? Does expressing the suitable emotion throws you in a negative state of mind? I'd strongly disagree.

This post has been edited by shanecross: Aug 8 2009, 10:52 PM
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post Aug 9 2009, 08:05 PM

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Alright, since many of us have the opinion that it is futile to discuss life without emotion, which I agree to some extent (since it's not possible to go without for now), let's continue the discussion about how we can bring the best out of human emotions.

Let's start with the types of desirable and undesirable emotions (e.g. Is anger really undesirable? How about jealousy? etc.).

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List of human emotions:

Love
adoration, affection, love, fondness, liking, attraction, caring, tenderness, compassion, sentimentality, arousal, desire, lust, passion, infatuation, longing

Joy
amusement, bliss, cheerfulness, gaiety, glee, jolliness, joviality, joy, delight, enjoyment, gladness, happiness, jubilation, elation, satisfaction, ecstasy, euphoria, enthusiasm, zeal, zest, excitement, thrill, exhilaration, contentment, pleasure, pride, triumph, eagerness, hope, optimism, enthrallment, rapture, relief

Surprise
amazement, surprise, astonishment

Anger
aggravation, irritation, agitation, annoyance, grouchiness, grumpiness, exasperation, frustration, anger, rage, outrage, fury, wrath, hostility, ferocity, bitterness, hate, scorn, spite, vengefulness, dislike, resentment, disgust, revulsion, contempt, loathing, envy, jealousy, torment

Sadness
agony, suffering, hurt, anguish, depression, despair, hopelessness, gloom, glumness, sadness, unhappiness, grief, sorrow, woe, misery, melancholy, dismay, disappointment, displeasure, guilt, shame, regret, remorse, alienation, isolation, neglect, loneliness, rejection, homesickness, defeat, dejection, insecurity, embarrassment, humiliation, insult, pity, sympathy

Fear
alarm, shock, fear, fright, horror, terror, panic, hysteria, mortification, anxiety, nervousness, tenseness, uneasiness, apprehension, worry, distress, dread

Source: Parrot (2001), Wikipedia: List of emotions
This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Aug 9 2009, 08:40 PM
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post May 20 2012, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(clemente029 @ May 20 2012, 08:46 PM)
emotion for me is very much useful in survival of humanity, you have already stated the advantages of emotion. brows.gif
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Such as Servomechanism.


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