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post Jul 29 2009, 08:26 AM, updated 17y ago

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Earth to Mars in 39 Days


A six-month space journey away, Mars often seems an almost impossible planet to reach. But engineers are developing a new engine that could turn six months to six weeks, bringing the Red Planet much, much closer than ever before.

Using the traditional fuel-burning rockets that carried humans on lunar missions, it would take a manned spacecraft six months to travel from the Earth to Mars. While you could find volunteers in spades willing to trade a year in a tin can for a glimpse of another planet, osteoporosis-inducing weightlessness and dangerous radiation render a lengthy trip unfeasible. But attention has turned to ion engines. While a combustion rocket thrusts a space shuttle through the atmosphere, then lets it coast to its destination, ion engines are able to effect a more continuous thrust:

Ion engines, on the other hand, accelerate electrically charged atoms, or ions, through an electric field, thereby pushing the spacecraft in the opposite direction. They provide much less thrust at a given moment than do chemical rockets, which means they can't break free of the Earth's gravity on their own.

But once in space, they can give a continuous push for years, like a steady breeze at the back of a sailboat, accelerating gradually until they're moving faster than chemical rockets.

Engineers at the Ad Astra are seeing promise in VASIMR, an ion engine that uses a radio frequency generator to heat charged particles and create greater thrust than other similar engines. Ad Astra plans to attach a solar-powered VASIMR engine to the International Space Station for tests, and, if they are successful, could use VASIMR periodically to thrust the ISS back into the Earth's orbit.

But, if the engine were powered by an onboard nuclear reactor, its applications could be much more profound. Using 1000 times the energy of a solar-powered VASIMR, a nuclear-powered VASIMR engine could propel a manned spacecraft to Mars in a mere 39 days. Although the technology to play a nuclear reactor on a space shuttle is still a ways off, many in astrophysics feel the project holds enormous promise. NASA has provided Ad Astra with a small stipend for VASIMR development, and NASA chief Charles Bolden had high praise for the possibility of shortened space travel:

If engines, such as VASIMR, could be developed to take people to the Red Planet in 40 days, "that puts it inside the range of what we feel comfortable of doing with humans," he told New Scientist. "Something like VASIMR – that's a game changer."


http://io9.com/5323516/earth-to-mars-in-39-days
TSobefiend
post Jul 29 2009, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(rockets @ Jul 29 2009, 10:45 AM)
currently we have a couple of deep space probes that uses ion engine powered by solar energy, the first one was launched back in 2000 iirc. so this technology has been around for a while, but yea i guess the real challenge is having a nuclear reactor to power one.
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yeah.. we have been using ION engine for years. the thing is those ion thrusters does not exert enough force for real deep space missions. i read somewhere that the thrust of these ion engines is equivalent to you blowing on a piece of paper. it might not be much in earth atmosphere and gravity but in space that is good enough to push space probes all the way to pluto and beyond

interesting enough the TIE fighter in Star wars stand for Twin Ion Engine.. just in case some of you don't know that!
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post Jul 29 2009, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Serpentarius @ Jul 29 2009, 11:53 AM)
US got NO extra money to do space research

they pull out a lot of budget before .... this publisity is to spur the public to change Obama policy ... NASA got no extra funding .... a lot of research has been abandoned ...
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its a sign of times. the space golden age was in the 50-60's where the tech was also used to build ICBMs. when the threat of ICBM from Russia is no longer there i can see why they face budget cuts

the shuttle for example was suppose to be used only for 25 years. as it stands the shuttle programme is long overdue for a new shuttle design. with the collapse of the world economy i think the future of space exploration will be gloomy. by 2015 the ISS will deorbit

YES! they will let he ISS tumble back to earth. Neither NASA,ESA nor Russian space administrator see any reason to keep it afloat. The only people interested in space programme is CHINA. so better hope china will do something!
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post Jul 29 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Serpentarius @ Jul 29 2009, 01:32 PM)
but China is building their OWN spacestation ..... unless ... United Nations cannot support the Space Station (which is a laughter, they cannot take it) ... maybe they'll either rent it out ... or sell it ...

dun worry about that le ....... UN will always have the IMF to borrow money from ..... and NASA may have reduced most of their funded researches ... but not the private funded ones ..... plus .... they just not doing anything special ... but to revert to the status: IDLE (or relaxing holiday)
but now they US itself is holding their own states together (takut pecah like USSR) .... the threat of their states going independent is very real .... checkout California's local politics

since US is actually not a FAIR country .... some states are producing more, some are less .. they argue a lot of the GDP per state .... plus their country is far too large ...... their state ppl love their state more than their country ... (e.g. even their own state police hates FBI)

i believe ... we might see the US to split in our lifetime ... or US might change its own policies and become kuku besi to their own country to keep their states together (which even worst - Militarism)
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there is a joke among californians

"outside of california its foreign policy"

they truly believe that they can sustain themselves. with what i dont know. at least texas have their oil. same goes to alaska. i dont think we'll see a split in america. them bastards are patriotic as hell!

QUOTE(Toriton @ Jul 29 2009, 01:41 PM)
fallen of democracy champion...

maybe its better to spend more on earth protection... protection from pollution, meteor...

spending a lot for knowledge about something beyond our need is just a luxury that we might need to put aside for the time being...
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this is the thing. how do we say something is IMPORATANT or not. like the Larhe Hadron Collider. how does it benefit human kind. so far all we know is they are trying to find proof of theoretical physics that does not benefit makind. then again if we try to cut scientific research we will be back to the middle ages! sometimes you need to spend big for science.

 

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