I always phailed on step 5.

I got some correction for da TS.

Y'know if you ask me, all I see is only ONE STEP. That is asking her out.
The rest 1-4 are NOT steps at all. They are called "body-courting" language.
Ya think once u got to step 5 ya leave steps 1-4 behind then ya wrong.
Courting should NOT be an act.
It should be a form of cultivation.
Something that is built-in in many Western kids.
Sincerity. Ya hafta practice it and carry it whereva ya goin'.

But judging by the counter-standards shown by most Asian families, and especially MALAYSIAN-like education, I'd say forget it.

This is ASIA weh.
Education is thought up-side down wan.
At the end of it all, it's abt how heavy ya wallet is.
Wat car ya driving.
Who ya hanging out with.
Who ya father is.
Where ya stay.

And if they girls get entertained with lame jokes and local cars with a so-so looking guy,
they prolly haven't seen enuf of teh world. We call that lucky for that guy.

There are also girls who are born-rich, hard to please, don shopping bags for fashion, gorgeous-looking, got a long line of guys, and hate guys who play Daytona. Girls of high expectationS. They won't settle for anything less. Guys who date 'em are usually also as privileged as em. Gotta have all 5Cs, and cock is one of them.

So wat im trying to b**** here? Is that ya hafta know where ya stand.
If ya wan something super gorgeous, ya gotta have what it takes.
There will come a time a girl will overlook all these signs and stare straight at the bulge in ur pants.
Expectations spawn expectations. If ya lucky then ya might find somebody who fancies all da SIMPLE THINGS in life and still look great.
Da guide offered by TS is to emphasize the use of body language. They DO improve ya chances. But effective for certain kinda girls of certain age group and background (aka good girls).

Ppl nowadays are very complex. Blame overpopulation. They just dun go out with one person. Too many good-looking ppl around. There isn't anything ya do is new or she hasn't experienced with other guys. They like to have fun and be pampered. Ask em cook and they just prefer eat out.

There's no fixed rules for courting. Everyone is an individual and unique in their own ways. Just pick up new skills everyday and make her love ya for wat ya are, not who ya trying to become. Body language is a form of communication, not a magic charm.

Most importantly, REAL LOVE is about wat ya MEAN to her...NOT how ya ask her out.

Eh dude, how bout when u met a girl at a random coffee shop? She's with her friends and you just dont know how to let her know that you are interested to get to know her?

Do you use the same steps as the one you have given?

Hey dude. You're way past the friends zone la. Its so obvious you're in her "quality guy" books.

Where got normal friends talk also foreheads touch 1. Thats almost like nose touching.. Which is almost like lip smearing... which is almost like..

anyway you get my drift ;D

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when i was standrad 3(10 yrs old), i walk with a girl i like along the beach in pulau redang.

got some boys behave like that one.

their wifey is virgin until they marry.

he, on the other hand, fcuks around before they get married.

Those who dont know this dont know the kamasutra. Sex is better when the girl plays hard to get. Its natural. Its the way nature intended.

Tensions are created unnecessailry(this word very hard to spell,dammit) when gender roles are reversed.

er..whats our next stage of revolution?

The relaxation stage. Where the women insist on sharing all our work.

That just means men have to become more assertive, successful and outspoken than women are

File for dirvorced already but still in processing.

I am fit for new relationship ? I do not know, cos i still haven tell the girl that i was married. Sked that will pissed her off .

So i am now thinking and asking whether she is interested in me. Else no point continues.

Of cos i need to. How u know i am chinese ? Haha.

I think she is still young, i am young too. Beli 1 Percuma 1 maybe she will no buy.

If she just treat me as fren, normal fren, i don mind to continue. Im enjoying too. Just scare one day if she is serious and found out i was married. I don wish to hurt another innocent.

Should i tell her now ? Or later when i found out she actually carrying touch ?

angkat lampu suluh means "admire/interested" , should be torch.

If according the 5 ways, all got positive response.

But on the other hand, i was just think that she was only being courtesy ?

I paid for the movie and dinner , she doesnt seems to avoid the idea. Of cos she don looks like thos money minded ppl.

We are long lost coursemate , so we talked about those days back in Uni. We talked anything inlcuding her family members. I keep asking and she keep answering.

I think to certain degree, yes, i tried to aviod it. But at 1st impression , she already thinks that i am single. I think this is the reason she din ask about my past.

I am still not sure whether she is interested in me. Sometime i felt yes, sometimes i dont.

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Added on September 30, 2009, 5:21 pm
thanks. actually i felt uneasy for not telling her my maritul status. its been uneasy for me since i met her.

I wanna know what u think of my a idea of a first date. im the kind of guy who is REALLY into planes.. my idea of a first date is taking her somehwere alone. i mean really alone. no other human contact. soo i was thinking, drive her to KLIA, there is a kinda secret place not many people know, it is situated at one END of the runway. so u WILL see and HEAR planes flying directy above u about 100- metres above ur head. tapau something to eat and just eat, talk and look at all the planes landing, given she also diggs planes. lol. i think i'll probably get a lot of negative feedback on this, but heck, i just wanna know what u guys think.

i'll play this game!

"but i shy...what if she say no? what if she really dress nice nice and i dissapoint her? what if i ran out of things to say to her? then how? waste money how?  "

Dude, very good advice. Anyway, I have a question about the physical proximity, body contact. How close do we need to get before you touch the thigh and shoulder.

You don't have to kiss first to touch thighs Don't be creepy old man, and go raba raba the thigh out of a sudden la. You can just playfully tap the thigh when you're sitting down. Just go "come lets go makan now" *tap thigh and stand up* It breaks down the touch barrier pretty quicklly.

There's a very simple rule though, if you THINK about touching, 90% of the time, its going to come off creepy. Just be natural and let it flow, then the touches won't be so creepy.

Everyone here is so knowledgeable. All I know is theory And seriously, why isn't this pinned yet!

nice.. summarizes what i do whn i court a chick.. proximity and testing water always counts.

tipu, you didn't get your slurpee girl

Speaking of which... how do I make myself look less like a player?