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 High electricity bills, Advice needed.thks.

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lainux
post Aug 10 2009, 12:33 AM

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Which one is better, central unit water tank boiler or individual water heater? I mean in terms of saving electricity & money. I have 3 bathrooms that are just next to eah other, and I am wondering which type to install to save energy.
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 11 2009, 05:57 PM)
Both has pros and cons.

Central:
1) Takes longer time to boil / keep warm -> more electricity
2) Provide continous steady stream of warm water. You don't bath in hot water  tongue.gif  Hot water is to process dressed-chicken.

Individual:
1) Almost immediate warm water. Sometimes too hot and boil off the sausage/fish-ball/double-pau
2) Irregular temperature, fluctuate. Which will make you turn the heater up. Then... refer #1  sweat.gif

Best is, install another separate tank on top of the roof, either black PVC or metal is fine, as both absorb heat. Let our natural sun become the heater.
Unless most of your team take bath at similiar time, otherwise don't go for central.

Another way to look at it, you don't use a 5L kettle to boil water, then make a cup of 50ml espresso.  doh.gif  It would be better to use the small 1.2L jug to boil and faster too. Save electricity.

Unless you plan to boil 5L water, then make 2-3L of hot coffee/tea for a gang.  sweat.gif
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Good analysis. I was thinking of putting the water tank to expose to the hot sun, but am worried whether it will be warm enough for the evening. Also, then when you want cold shower, you can't have it. Again, I don't think people take cold shower these days.
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 12 2009, 11:28 AM)
The tank on roof will provide warm water on sunny days and if bath around 5pm-8pm. If water not warm enough (e.g. you always come home 11pm) or on rainy days, I suggest use individual heater if really want to. There are other consideration as well, low water pressure, need pump? Extra tank on roof use same piping or new piping ? cost ?

If want cold shower, one way is to buy a small crushed-marble/white-plaster tank. Old fashion type. Not plastic/white-PVC. Use the small-bucket (cedok) method. But must fill it up with water in advance 3-5 hours. Marble (like marble flooring) will cool down the water. To double/triple up the functionality, you can also use it to flush toilet or rear some fish/tortoise in it  tongue.gif

It may sound impracticle or ugly though... depending on preference for greener world or look nice/design. E.g. wear coat/jacket + tie walk outside the sun at klcc. Sure look proper and smart, but sweat like an idiot.

Side track: I don't like those designer/architect who build full length glass wall/window for homes. It is just plain stupid to have the sun shining, and you pull the curtain to cover it. The heat build-up will require more air-cond. Yeah yeah, it look nice, but impracticle. If we're living in Scandinavia, then full length glass is alright. But no, not here in M'sia with 4 seasons of summer.
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OK will go to my design board and try to be green & nice.

I do agree w/ you. We malaysian like to have many windows, but we almost never use the windows feature, as they are always covered up by curtains!! So, what is the point? I would rather design to have glass panel at the 7' height, where you get privacy & light!

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