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Tatsumaki
post Jul 27 2009, 12:31 PM

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There was a time when I read here that the intention for Kopitiam was for members to discuss topics that had no 'home'. Topics that did not have any relevance with the many subforums/hobbies/pets/health sections.

It was no means for people to post no holds barred. I'm by no means an old resident. I haven't seen the golden age of these sub forums as some of you have mentioned.

Having said that from my observation, the root of the problem is the posting style has permeated into this sub forums. Because of this, it isn't surprising that people call it Stupid's Corner, and this is true. One doesn't have to look far why some people call it that.

With regards to sticky? I suspect that people won't read the stickys. Even if they do, they will have this nagging sensation that tells them their problem is different and thus go and create a nice thread for themselves. Personally I don't have problems with the repeat threads - though it can get tiring. My main beef is with people whom adopt selective hearing.
Secondly, the nonsensical threads which from observation have no purpose.

Solutions? Martial Law. Fully clamp down on this section that posts have to be informative and proper either that, 3 day ban. Malaysians mentality are such that if there are no punishment, there will be no enforcement. Leaving it to ethics and (un)common sense is as good as no having it.
Tatsumaki
post Jul 29 2009, 01:32 PM

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Here is a can of tuna Hobbes, you deserved it!

Point 1
If I were to question every poster's track record regarding flaming and crudeness, there are one or few times where each of us falter, myself included. As much as I try my very best to post with tact, without bias and on topic, I mostly fail on the tact part when I deem the topic to be redundant or plain silly or the OP is being plain lazy expecting people to spoon feed. (Case1: "What should I buy my girlfriend for her birthday" which I replied : A brain for yourself - but let's not digress to the reasons behind that)

On a personal basis, one thing I find about this forum is that the assumed authority of some posters that they have enough nerve to tell a person to break up that relationship. Barring blood relations, I frankly do not think anyone has authority to tell someone else "Hey, you two should break up".
Given the fact that there are obvious, blaring red alert signals, at most I feel, we should just let them know "I sincerely think you should re-evaluate your relationship. This are the reasons , bla bla bla"

TLDR: I think one clean up is that we shouldn't give an ultimatum to people to break up. We do not own /posses these people whom are asking for second opinions.

On Walking the Talk
Dickson has expressed intention to change this forum for the better. Having said that some people nailed him stating that he wants to change environment but not himself. Refer to Point 1, no one is innocent of once in a while flaming, clown post, joke post, but at least for myself, I try to keep this minimal. With that in mind, at least Dickson has started the ball rolling am I right? Is there any reason to nail the person for starting the ball rolling?
If I started the same topic, I'd come under fire too for my flaming post some here and some in Health and Fitness. I have disagreed with Dickson of a few points, but do you see the each of us going for each other's throat? We are matured enough to agree to disagree. No one is wanting a "Yes Man".

Summary: No one is innocent. To the very least Dickson put actions to his thought.

On The board is OK / The board is Not OK
I guess this is subjective. I think it isn't OK where as others think it is. I suppose the best way is to carry out a poll and see how it leads to. I personally would like to see most if not all spam and nonsensical replies removed. I'm perfectly OK with the Real World Issues policy enforced but I am sensitive enough to know that many many many of you will be uncomfortable with that type of conduct, therefore somewhere in the middle. Jokes and laughs, minor poking around but absolutely no spam or nonsensical replies such as "tits of GTFO" "mana drill" "face problem" "you're hopeless" "wang and ah moi nonsense" "break off la" and the list goes on.

Summary: Requires in depth thinking and poll.

On Real versus Virtual

One argument which I noticed is that, some might say, I prefer to focus on real life friends and help them out rather than a virtual medium. Granted there is merit in it but can one vector take precedence over another? Allow me to explain.
Behind every nickname, every MMORPG sprite and every 2 d character is another living, breathing human being.
The vector of communication is via the internet rather than face to face, but remove the vector - the principle remains. Two individuals interacting.
How is it different from writing snail males, talking on the phone, talking face to face? It isn't. It is basically preference.
My policy is simple, wherever and whenever possible via whatever means, if there is an opportunity to assist someone, I will do it.

Some might frown upon the idea seeking advice on the internet with argument that Internet is SRZ BNZ YO

But hear this, for some whom have few friends, who aren't close to their family members and have no one else to confide or seek advice to, faceless nicknames are their best options. A drowning man grabs even a straw
Tatsumaki
post Jul 29 2009, 01:45 PM

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In all sincerity numeichan, from my observations and interactions with Dickson, I have no qualms with him whatsoever. I only notice him getting agitated with the posters whom I deem are not using their brains when they post nonsensical replies. I get agitated too when I read these type of replies because they are too silly.

It is as if the replies had no thought put into it and that bugs the heck out of me. God given brains to use, but choose not to use and result in silly actions/replies.

You don't see Dickson and Hawk arguing even though Hawk calls him Mr Poonani do you? Yeah I can call Hawk - Cawk and he can call me Fartsu.
I think you're addressing him only when he replies to idiot posts.
On the whole Dickson is fine.

Anyone would get slightly defensive when something is said personally to them right? You me included?

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