Once I told them, since you say that joining this business is a GURANTEE PROFIT, why not you borrow me that 1.7k and I join as member. Then IF i manage to get profit out of it, I will return you that 1.7k and we work happily together. If things goes sour and I couldn't sell any, too bad I'm not returning you that 1.7k. He stood quiet for awhile and I just left. Meaning, the MLM guy isn't certain at all whether that I could sell also. Then why bother sayin GURANTEE PROFIT or RETURN.