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TSilovestitch
post Jul 22 2009, 05:11 PM, updated 17y ago

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i am new in guitar.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/j/jay_...ue_ding_tab.htm

i have no idea how to play the part where "0" lying on high high E String and "3" lying on D String at same vertical line, meaning to strum down from D String to high E String
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post Jul 22 2009, 05:18 PM

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not strumming, its called plucking. use ur thumb n another finger (index finger also can) to pluck both 0 and 3 together


Added on July 22, 2009, 5:19 pmstrumming is if u see on one column got 3 to 6 strings with "numbers"

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post Jul 22 2009, 05:28 PM

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thanks got it!!!


Added on July 22, 2009, 5:36 pmnow i have problem on which finger should be used to hold down a particular note...

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post Jul 22 2009, 05:49 PM

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Fingers are personal preference actually.
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post Jul 22 2009, 06:03 PM

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i tried to play tabs provided in ultimate guitar website, it sounds weird? what is the problem?
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post Jul 22 2009, 08:18 PM

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There are lots of inaccurate/ badly tabbed guitar tabs @ ultimate guitar.
The best way is to google for tab books. I just downloaded a PDF file of Aerosmith's Greatest Hits Official Tab Book yesterday.

Google for : "Artiste Name " Official Guitar Tab Book.

Can go to MPH/Popular to buy tab book also, just saw Jay Chou's ones few days ago @ Sunway Pyramid Popular bookstore.
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post Jul 23 2009, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jul 22 2009, 05:49 PM)
Fingers are personal preference actually.
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i agree. you just have to find the correct finger/s with the correct positions you are comfortable with.

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post Jul 23 2009, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jul 22 2009, 05:49 PM)
Fingers are personal preference actually.
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fingers placing is personal preference? i have two fingers placing questions in my mind, the first one is the plucking finger, which finger responsible for which string, and finger to press note.. the personal preference u mean here, is fretting finger or plucking finger??
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post Jul 23 2009, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 23 2009, 08:53 PM)
fingers placing is personal preference? i have two fingers placing questions in my mind, the first one is the plucking finger, which finger responsible for which string, and finger to press note.. the personal preference u mean here, is fretting finger or plucking finger??
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for me, actually this goes for both sets of fingers (like for example, for plucking, some guitarists including me use the pinky for plucking, some don't; some guitarists at some instances use only the thumb for plucking). but this thread is about reading tabs - since the number of tabs represent which strings are pressed on which fret. you position the fretting fingers as you wish (in contrast to those old piano scores meant for piano lessons - there are also numbers indicated that represent which finger goes to which note).
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post Jul 23 2009, 09:34 PM

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Oh. Sorry bro tongue.gif.

Plucking finger - Classical style (it's smoother too) is thumb plucks the bass strings (6th to 4th) and the other fingers do the treble strings (3rd to 1st). But as brownman said, also personal. I feel classical style is better but may be harder for some people to do since it needs coordination.

Fretting finger - This is the personal preference.
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post Jul 23 2009, 09:50 PM

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thanks for the guideline, master sifu!!! lol
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post Jul 24 2009, 09:55 AM

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On ultimate guitar website there are also these files in the form of .ptb. These are power tab files. http://www.power-tab.net

If you're not sure whether what you play is really what the tab is telling you, download that software (freeware) and open the .ptb file and play it. The software will play it using midi.
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post Jul 24 2009, 10:33 AM

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place yer finger you comfortable with, so, easier to move both finger synchronously...

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post Jul 24 2009, 02:44 PM

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I have a question also
In a tab, there are cases where I see
--------\12--------

From what I see in youtube, they play it by sliding from way above.
The question is do they pick this while sliding? And start from which note??
What is the effect of doing this?
I saw this quite often, they play halfway, then slide all the way up and down again :s
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post Jul 24 2009, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Jul 24 2009, 02:44 PM)
I have a question also
In a tab, there are cases where I see
--------\12--------

From what I see in youtube, they play it by sliding from way above.
The question is do they pick this while sliding? And start from which note??
What is the effect of doing this?
I saw this quite often, they play halfway, then slide all the way up and down again :s
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you are correct in what you saw - sliding from way above, maybe from 24 or 22 depending on the guitar's length, and your preference. the starting point is actually insignificant from the listeners' point of view so as you will put more emphasis on the note indicated in the tab.

you treat this as a single note (whether be in an eighth note or a quarter note or whatever, depending how the tab was written). if you try to write this in a musical score, this should appear as a glissando (gliding of pitch). basically the effect would be a quick slide from one note through notes in between down to the indicated note in the tab. an example of a glissando can be done in a piano wherein the musician slides his/her hand through the notes (though in the piano, it's almost always that you only hit the white keys, thus using only the C-major scale). same concept for the guitar, only here you go through frets, thus hitting ALL notes going through half steps (sharps and flats).

i hope this helps.

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post Jul 24 2009, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(brownman90561495 @ Jul 24 2009, 04:39 PM)
you are correct in what you saw - sliding from way above, maybe from 24 or 22 depending on the guitar's length, and your preference. the starting point is actually insignificant from the listeners' point of view so as you will put more emphasis on the note indicated in the tab.

you treat this as a single note (whether be in an eighth note or a quarter note or whatever, depending how the tab was written). if you try to write this in a musical score, this should appear as a glissando (gliding of pitch). basically the effect would be a quick slide from one note through notes in between down to the indicated note in the tab. an example of a glissando can be done in a piano wherein the musician slides his/her hand through the notes (though in the piano, it's almost always that you only hit the white keys, thus using only the C-major scale). same concept for the guitar, only here you go through frets, thus hitting ALL notes going through half steps (sharps and flats).

i hope this helps.
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bro, u learnt how many instuments?


Added on July 24, 2009, 6:40 pm
QUOTE(lung @ Jul 24 2009, 09:55 AM)
On ultimate guitar website there are also these files in the form of .ptb. These are power tab files. http://www.power-tab.net

If you're not sure whether what you play is really what the tab is telling you, download that software (freeware) and open the .ptb file and play it. The software will play it using midi.
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thanks! i dun even know got such thing? lol

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post Jul 24 2009, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 24 2009, 06:34 PM)
bro, u learnt how many instuments?


Added on July 24, 2009, 6:40 pm
thanks! i dun even know got such thing? lol
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only two smile.gif piano and guitar (rhythm and bass). tried learning how to play violin by myself, but i didn't do good until i just got lazy picking it up.
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post Jul 25 2009, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(brownman90561495 @ Jul 24 2009, 06:45 PM)
only two smile.gif piano and guitar (rhythm and bass). tried learning how to play violin by myself, but i didn't do good until i just got lazy picking it up.
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sounds like u damn greedy, haha
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post Jul 25 2009, 09:09 AM

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Talented laa. Not greedy wink.gif.

If you can learn violin by yourself, must salute.
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post Jul 27 2009, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 25 2009, 03:15 AM)
sounds like u damn greedy, haha
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hahahaha well my mom and brother kinda "forced" me to learn the basics until i got myself on my own feet to learn the stuff smile.gif


Added on July 27, 2009, 2:17 pm
QUOTE(secondrate @ Jul 25 2009, 09:09 AM)
Talented laa. Not greedy wink.gif.

If you can learn violin by yourself, must salute.
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thanks smile.gif well i wasn't able to learn to play the violin, so i still may not be good enough


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post Jul 27 2009, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(lung @ Jul 24 2009, 09:55 AM)
On ultimate guitar website there are also these files in the form of .ptb. These are power tab files. http://www.power-tab.net

If you're not sure whether what you play is really what the tab is telling you, download that software (freeware) and open the .ptb file and play it. The software will play it using midi.
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I like to use Guitar Pro 5.2

You can download guitar pro files in GP5 formats.

It's not only for guitar learning, but you can get scores as well, and so far, the files that i downloaded... i would say 85% of it are accurate from drums to keyboards (of course, guitars included) , may not be perfect as most of the files are user submitted. But you will get the idea on how to play it.


Not only that, if you find something is slightly not right, you can edit the tabs/notes or write your own songs with it.

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And it supports soundfonts too.





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post Jul 27 2009, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(aaron5829 @ Jul 27 2009, 02:22 PM)
I like to use Guitar Pro 5.2

You can download guitar pro files in GP5 formats.

It's not only for guitar learning, but you can get scores as well, and so far, the files that i downloaded... i would say 85% of it are accurate from drums to keyboards (of course, guitars included) , may not be perfect as most of the files are user submitted. But you will get the idea on how to play it.
Not only that, if you find something is slightly not right, you can edit the tabs/notes or write your own songs with it.

smile.gif

And it supports soundfonts too.
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it seems not a freeware... urs is cracked one?mind to share the link where u downloaded.
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post Jul 27 2009, 11:07 PM

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I don't think we can. Not without getting a warning. Try Googling it brows.gif.

I still prefer normal tabs but I use PowerTab to get my timing down.
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post Jul 27 2009, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jul 27 2009, 11:07 PM)
I don't think we can. Not without getting a warning. Try Googling it brows.gif.

I still prefer normal tabs but I use PowerTab to get my timing down.
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hope u all can share the website where u all usually get song tab from there, make sure the tab has "quality control",lolz
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post Jul 28 2009, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 27 2009, 11:13 PM)
hope u all can share the website where u all usually get song tab from there, make sure the tab has "quality control",lolz
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Yea, google for the "link" biggrin.gif


As for the guitar pro files... you can find it all here .... http://www.mysongbook.com/

It comes with a rating... i rarely download anything less than 4 stars.

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Even 4 stars, there are some parts which are wrong... but close enough.

It's also great for improvisation practices and stuff, i mean you can see different genres there... from Jazz - Metal


It's a useful tool to "tangkap" certain songs... especially those complicated jazz chords which are very hard to catch by ear when all the music is going on..... the 13s , 11s and such....

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Added on July 28, 2009, 10:52 ambtw, i write my songs using this thing... wink.gif

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post Jul 28 2009, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(aaron5829 @ Jul 28 2009, 10:50 AM)
Yea, google for the "link"  biggrin.gif
As for the guitar pro files... you can find it all here .... http://www.mysongbook.com/

It comes with a rating... i rarely download anything less than 4 stars.

smile.gif

Even 4 stars, there are some parts which are wrong... but close enough.

It's also great for improvisation practices and stuff, i mean you can see different genres there... from Jazz - Metal
It's a useful tool to "tangkap" certain songs... especially those complicated jazz chords which are very hard to catch by ear when all the music is going on..... the 13s , 11s and such....

smile.gif


Added on July 28, 2009, 10:52 ambtw, i write my songs using this thing... wink.gif
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guitar pro software must be paid to get it.... haiz..... i curious how u all write song, if my mind got some rythm, i dont manage to write it out straight, i have to analyze "note by note"....
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post Jul 28 2009, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 28 2009, 05:50 PM)
guitar pro software must be paid to get it.... haiz..... i curious how u all write song, if my mind got some rythm, i dont manage to write it out straight, i have to analyze "note by note"....
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well you start that way - slowly smile.gif if you can feel you're doing it right at a slow pace, you can train yourself to go abit faster.

my tip on how to go on faster: try to learn and understand how the scales work. well, learning the major scales will help you alot.
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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 28 2009, 05:50 PM)
guitar pro software must be paid to get it.... haiz..... i curious how u all write song, if my mind got some rythm, i dont manage to write it out straight, i have to analyze "note by note"....
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Haha.. check your PM.


As for song writing... sometimes, i just sit with my guitar and messing with some chord progressions, from there, an idea can suddenly pop out in my head... and i will immediately write down, kick marks, and stuff, then finally do it in the software, to have a listen on how the end product will sound like. Then will start distributing to my band members, and get them to listen and find out wether they like it or not. If they do, then everyone else will go learn their parts, and finally make a studio practice. Of course it doesnt always turn out exactly like in the midi, cos we will add attack parts and stuff....

All those minor things, to juice up the song a bit.

But this thread is not about writing songs... i know.


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post Jul 29 2009, 04:35 PM

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what i mean is when i got a music in my head, i cannot straight get the idea of the entire music should be placed with which note, until i blurt out CDEFG to get the right one that satisfies the rythm...
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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 29 2009, 04:35 PM)
what i mean is when i got a music in my head, i cannot straight get the idea of the entire music should be placed with which note, until i blurt out CDEFG to get the right one that satisfies the rythm...
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do you mean that you can't get the right note after you hear the music? and that you have to play all notes until one matches? am i correct?
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QUOTE(brownman90561495 @ Jul 29 2009, 04:56 PM)
do you mean that you can't get the right note after you hear the music? and that you have to play all notes until one matches? am i correct?
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yes, and i wanna ask "Experienced musician able to just straight knowing the right note without playing each note to find out the one matches"

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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 29 2009, 05:51 PM)
yes, and i wanna ask "Experienced musician able to just straight knowing the right note without playing each note to find out the one matches"
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oh this is a whole new topic. i can help you with this abit, and maybe other LYN members can share their inputs as well. hold on let me create a new thread for this.

EDIT: thread created -> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1112628

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post Jul 29 2009, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(brownman90561495 @ Jul 29 2009, 06:28 PM)
oh this is a whole new topic. i can help you with this abit, and maybe other LYN members can share their inputs as well. hold on let me create a new thread for this.

EDIT: thread created -> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1112628
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thanks for keep tracking my thread. ur replies has always been very helpful, i thought to open a new topic called "newbie questions",that allows more newbies like me to post their questions there for help, to solve the redundancy problem where each person just create a new topic for the question they encounter. anyway, thanks for help...
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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Jul 29 2009, 07:33 PM)
thanks for keep tracking my thread. ur replies has always been very helpful, i thought to open a new topic called "newbie questions",that allows more newbies like me to post their questions there for help, to solve the redundancy problem where each person just create a new topic for the question they encounter. anyway, thanks for help...
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that's a good idea. smile.gif i'll try to fix things up tomorrow when i get back here in my desk

and you're welcome smile.gif i like doing this because i was a small time music teacher
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post Jul 29 2009, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(brownman90561495 @ Jul 29 2009, 08:24 PM)
that's a good idea. smile.gif i'll try to fix things up tomorrow when i get back here in my desk

and you're welcome smile.gif i like doing this because i was a small time music teacher
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So where is ur music academy? and u sell those music stuff?, aiya no need to purposely fix it lar, just leave it there lar.

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