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 Stock Market V34: Return of the Bull, Part II, Malaysia Boleh!! 1200 is coming

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David_Brent
post Jul 17 2009, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Jul 17 2009, 03:53 PM)
Tanjong lao saiĀ  cry.gif
wait a minute, maybe an opportunity to get more...

Btw,,, Brent, i think ur 14.2 queue should be matched by now smile.gif
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Yes - matched!!
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Will sell when it hits 18.50 brows.gif
...or keep it for the Divvy and buy more if I can get at 13.xx hmm.gif

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post Jul 17 2009, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 17 2009, 07:42 PM)
No worry lah. Just keep for long term.

By the time it hits 18.50, then you would start to wonder why you do not buy more.
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Yes. I really agree with you. Am thinking to get another 50 lots next week. laugh.gif
i like this counter and it feels good to own a quality asset rclxm9.gif

Unlike some of the current dogs in my portfolio - MUST learn to control the itchy finger...... hmm.gif


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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 17 2009, 08:26 PM)
got a hunch.. i think I might ride onto Zelan when the next ASM rally comes in. One of my favourite stocks.
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Ooooh! ZELAN....I've got some of that in the cupboard brows.gif

Do you have any TP in mind?

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post Jul 17 2009, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 17 2009, 09:11 PM)
Both BAC, C and GE results aren't impressive. We're running out of steam already.
Option Ex. Friday - will not expect much volume tonight since most didn't strike.

But, does offer last chance to exit and set new position before the ellipse next week.  biggrin.gif
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What ARE the BAC, Citi and GE results, please?
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post Jul 17 2009, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 17 2009, 09:49 PM)
Thanks a lot!
Bank of America posts 2Q profit, surpasses Street.

BofA posts 2nd-quarter profit of $2.4 billion, beating Street, in sign banks may be recovering ... rclxms.gif

CITI expected to be bad tho' according to CNBC.
Just a question of less or more bad..... hmm.gif

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post Jul 17 2009, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 17 2009, 10:48 PM)
I believe these banks continue to cook the books, sometimes to make it look better for the quarterly results.

The thing that really make it better for them during the last two quarters, there was a lot of mortgages
re-adjustment that basically help them to bring in more revenues. After that has subsided and if the economy
doesn't improve, housing sale doesn't pickup, I'm don't think there will be up trending from here.

Anyway, for some reason today, Oil is trading higher tonight. Back up above $63.
It may go to $65 by next week if there's any more worry about commodity.
Oil was lagging a bit during the this week run up.. now seems to pick up a bit

Sometimes, Oil doesn't follow stocks, sometimes it run on its own. Completely unpredictable.
So much for fear of oversupply now.
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I'm sure some banks and other corporations use "creative accounting' to massage their results...it's amazingly easy to do under current accounting rules despite Sarbane-Oxley and the other legislation. "it all depends how you look at it................" blush.gif

Oil is a mystery to me. But when you look at the producer countries (Russia, OPEC, Venezuela etc.) you can see that they have absolutely no interest in CO prices much below $70.00 in the medium term. I think the world economy can live with oil at around that price. The people who need to be taken out of the equation are the speculators - as President Obama also pointed out recently.

I agree with you about the fundamentals (US/UK housing market is in the toillet; unemployment will rise dramatically in the west; the unexploded derivatives time-bomb - still ticking away etc.). sweat.gif

But if we can turn a penny or two on the markets before the ultimate collapse - then so be it. All cash may be worthless soon anyway.

I am stocking up on krugerrands, canned food and ammunition for when the real **** hits the fan...... hmm.gif
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post Jul 17 2009, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(speed7791 @ Jul 17 2009, 11:03 PM)
just curious. r u in msia/ us/ uk? i didn't follow this thread for some time. i know a lot of ppl r stocking up on essentials n ammo in us, probably uk too.
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I am in Malaysia and I would recommend anyone to 'Think the Unthinkable' as I believe that we are ultimately facing a New World Order where ALL our current assumptions will soon be challenged. Luckily, Malaysia is unlikely to starve - but many other countries will.

As unemployment rises and feral urban populations roam the streets and law and order breaks down (even more) you will need to protect and feed yourself and your family. Apart from the gold/food/ammo I am also seriously looking at buying some easily defensible arable land - so at least I can do some subsistence farming. brows.gif

By the way - if you buy gold, ALWAYS buy either sovereigns or krugerrands - much easier to hide, transport and trade.

You will need to conceal them as one of the first things governments will do when the crisis hits is to make the holding of gold by private citizens ILLEGAL.

Roosevelt made it illegal for Americans to own gold in 1933. The law was only rescinded by Nixon in 1972 (IIRC).

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post Jul 17 2009, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 17 2009, 11:31 PM)
Do you think money got value if you go for unlimited printing day and night ?

Barter trades would be back in the future.
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Well - that's exactly the point DMC is making.

When you have fiat currency where money is simply 'created' by CBs to the extent it will have to be in the future - a lot of interesting questions arise. One of them is:

What exactly IS money??

Ever think of that?

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post Jul 18 2009, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Jul 18 2009, 08:47 AM)
For those that wants to know more about Harta.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...88&sec=business
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Thank you. Very useful.
Dividend proposed is a bit mean - they'll have to do something about that if the shares are to advance. hmm.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 20 2009, 11:11 AM)
Be careful guys, market is overheating already.
It is ok to take some profit now before it hits the wall and bounced back hard.  biggrin.gif
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What to sell?
Where to take profit?
This is the problem hmm.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:26 AM

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Anyone got ANJOO?
Seems to be plodding up the hill quite nicely.
Just wondered if anyone got a SELL TP?
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 20 2009, 11:32 AM)
HSI even flies higher, cross 19K mark.

CIT could avoid bankruptcy if getting financing spur the bullish sentiment.

The rise of the market recently is not coupled with surge of volume which is the weak part of this bull.
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Yes. Not many people joining the party right now. Volume still disappointingly thin. hmm.gif
CI still under-performing compared to other regional bourses as well.

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post Jul 20 2009, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 20 2009, 11:33 AM)
Maybe very less retailers and foreign fund. Only Najib and his gang play "you throw to me, I catch, throw back to you"
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Good analogy. rclxms.gif
KLSE like ping-pong laugh.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:41 AM

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Will PBBank move this afternoon after the announcement? Was expecting it to be much more positively active today hmm.gif

My WCT moving up nicely though rclxm9.gif

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post Jul 20 2009, 01:53 PM

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Several things can threaten this rally notably the earnings reports due out this week from the US.

Expected from:

American Express Co,
Apple Inc ,
Boeing Co,
Caterpillar Inc,
Coca-Cola Co,
DuPont Co
McDonald's Corp,
Microsoft Corp,
3M Co

Some big names there that could drop a brick in our pond..... hmm.gif

The other worrying thing is the very low trading volumes IMHO.

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post Jul 20 2009, 02:04 PM

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Wow - someone queue ASTRO at 4.60 drool.gif

Now 4.20! shocking.gif

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 20 2009, 02:08 PM)
My logic is, do you think Najib will want to try suicidal attempt to tarnish his name? He definitely wants everyone to feel good, so supporting KLSE using your EPF money is one of the way. But when coast is clear, everyone else - aunty, uncle will buy buy buy like no tomorrow, while we all started to throw to them. So the market will go heated up, and the rise. But not any indication to ask anyone to buy or sell now, just my opinion that no matter what happen elsewhere, no FF will throw at insanely cheap price. So, even if a drop, there is still hope for KLSE to sustain some level, at least not crashing down.
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You've just made me feel a whole lot better, Jason. Thanks rclxms.gif
I was feeling a bit depressed but now, having read your post rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 20 2009, 02:11 PM)
aka sell when ppl greed biggrin.gif
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What will be the main signals?
Large volume of small lots - or something else?
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post Jul 20 2009, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 20 2009, 02:15 PM)
maybe can reach $4 today  brows.gif

or ppl would sell on news.... hmmm.
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Interesting game of "chicken" going on just now with ASTRO.
Stand-off at the moment. brows.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 20 2009, 02:19 PM)
I CANT WATCH ASTRO LIAO!!!

CALLING FOR MEETING NOW, BUGGER!  vmad.gif
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We'll give you an action replay when you get back laugh.gif
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Has my trading screen hung?
Or is absolutely nothing going on?? hmm.gif

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