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post Jul 16 2009, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(lerweqs @ Jul 16 2009, 12:40 PM)
guys.....im having problems for my n97,

1. photo taken blurred when viewed
2.pict cant be view when changed from vertical to horizontal (vise versa )
3.lag

is it because of too many pict taken.......

can sum1 help    sad.gif
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1. It's a bug in firmware v10. Upgrade it to v11 and it's solved.
2. Does not happen to me. I can view in both ways.
3. Can be due to many thing, how bad? you dont get a 100% smooth interface. especially if you have the theme turned on. Just switch it off and i find the phone is pretty responsive.
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post Jul 16 2009, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(blinky @ Jul 16 2009, 10:59 AM)
I've said this a lot of times and I'll say it again.

You cannot compare the Nokia N97 to the iPhone (whatever the series may be), simply because they are different. Phones like the Nokia N97, WinMo or even Android devices are smartphones. They are as close as you can get to a mobile computer.

iPhone, on the other hand, love it or hate it, it's NOT a smartphone. A lot of people might disagree, but how can the iPhone be a smartphone when it doesn't even perform the must fundamental function of a smartphone, which is to multitask?

Nokia N97 is targeted to the tech-savvy masses; whereas the iPhone is for a very niche market - the Apple fanboys. If you love Apple, you'll love the iPhone. If you love tech, you'll love the N97.

I won't tell you the advantages of the N97 over the iPhone because I can go on for another 10 paragraphs, but I can tell you what basic functions the iPhone 3GS does not have that even my 3 year-old N95 can outfunction it:

- No multitasking
- No file transfer over Bluetooth
- No Java support
- No LED for camera
- Which doesn't really matter because the camera is rubbish
- No hactic feedback on the touchscreen
- No proximity sensor
- No shutter key for the camera
- No stereo speakers, only mono
- No file manager
- No DIVX support
- The battery is shit

Stop comparing the iPhone to smartphones already. I think its competitors should be the Samsung Jet and LG Arena.

I'm not saying that the iPhone is inferior, but it's just different. I appreciate all the technology iPhone introduced to the mobile phone market, but drawing comparisons with the flagship device of the N-series is just out of line. N97 (Sedan) vs iPhone 3GS (2-door coupe). It's quite a silly comparison when they target to different users (tech-savvy and fashion-savvy).
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I must say i agreed with all the points above, but i wanted to point out a few opinion and fact that i've seen myself too.
Having big multitasking is a big no, for me, because i'd like to have my GPS, MSN Messenger and web browser open at the same time. Not one after another. However, i've seen it a friend's phone of mine (Iphone 2G) which he apparently h@cked and installed a third party program called "Backgrounder" that allows program to run in the background. So indirectly, multitasking. It runs pretty smoothly though. I wonder why apple doesnt want to natively support multitasking.

Web browsing experience is much better on iphone primariy because they are much smoother, and also the existence of multi touch technology which allow easy zoom/unzooming of a website. However, they will struggle when trying to open a full flash based website, while N97 is having much less trouble dealing with website requiring java and heavy flash content. I have my friend's Iphone 3.0 and my N97 side by side. Accessing the same website (full flash content) but his browser couldn't display anything at all. Mine is displaying everything correctly, but with very minor glitch where certain flash button could not be pressed. Mind you, a N97 can access a full computer version of youtube perfectly where iphone is depending on a special software develop to access youtube since they can't do it directly from the browser.

Also, i believe it's the haptic (i hope you dont mind the spelling correction) feedback you are talking about. However, having a capacitive screen means every button that you touch with your finger is a 100% hit. There won't be any chance for the button press to be miss, therefore there is no need to haptic. The haptic is in a form of mini vibration to let you know that you have indeed pressed a button which is very useful in on a resistive screen where you might accidently place too little pressure on a button and end up not pressing a button u wanted. I have the haptic thingy switched off because i i think it's draining the battery very quickly though. I have no problem pressing those button.

Again, when talking about iphone and n97, tech spec aside, people will tends to compared between its touchscreen technology. Capacitive(iphone) vs Resistive(n97). Initially, when i first use i phone, i must say i love their capacitive screen as i dont have to place any pressure on my finger to press those button on the screen. However, after getting a n97 and using it for a while, i found that i'm liking resistive screen more and more. Why? It's because i have tendency to use my fingernail to press the button since it feels more natural and accurate that way. I also liked the handwriting recognition which again, by using finger nail.

This cannot be achieved with iphone because no matter how hard you press using a nail (or in fact, anything other than your skin), the screen wont register a button press. The only catch is that, you must apply very very small pressure because this is what detected by a resistive screen; pressure.

So, for you guys button press using 1. SKIN ONLY with no pressure needed or 2. ANY MATERIAL including skin but with very slight pressure needed. Which would you choose? Personally i would choose 2 because i use about almost everything to draw on my screen. tongue.gif

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post Jul 20 2009, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(azlanroni @ Jul 19 2009, 10:51 PM)
Hey guys,

I just bought  a white N97. I bought it to replace my Iphone 2G. Here's my experience  so far.

(1) The white one is harder to find than the black one
(2) Retail is about RM 2480 in KL area.
(3) Midvalley sold out the white one, Lowyat got fewer white ones than black. Some shops got diffrent prices for the colours with the white one being pricier.
(4) Get the original. I.e check the AVAXX and Nokia sticker. Best bet is to buy at the Nokia store. At that price of 2000 plus you SHOULD buy the original.

(5) Immediately upgrade the software the moment you buy it.  The software you got the moment you buy it is rubbish and full of bugs.
N97 MINI PHONE REVIEW

(6) The on board RAM is rubbish, 128 RAM and the moment i wanted to use it it has only about 20 MB left. and i havent even installed anything yet.

(7) The software onboard is a wee bit sluggish.

(8) Personally i think the Iphone interface is better. Its much nicer.

(9) The moment you use the email interface make sure you set in the email settings in the mass memory.

(10) The email exchange is slower than the Iphone email exchange, in the Iphone the moment the email comes in the iphone will immedieately notices it. The N97 has a lag of at least 15 mins. But then again it maybe has to do with my settings.

(11) The Iphone Email Exchange see your sent email even from emails you sent from your office computer. The N97 can only see emails you send from the phone

(12) The Facebook application on the Iphone can post pictures on the wall posts. Havent found such option on the N97.

(13) the cameras in the N97 is sharp. 5Megapixels i tell you.hehehe. Although so far indoor pictures tend to be grainy a bit. Also there's no way to turn off the annoying clicking sound.

(14) I tried to upgrade the QuickOffice but it couldnt. A check with the resellers and they said that currently there is no option to upgrade QuickOffice yet for the N97. Please correct me if im getting the wrong information.

(15) Sometimes the it crashes when browsing . This is rare though.

(16) I love the fact that the N97 can be used as a modem for my laptop with its one touch access program. Now i can connect my laptop to the internet anywhere i go and dont have to rely on starbucks and free wifi only hotel lobby.

(17) Oh how can i forget, IF you buy it and have all the widgets turn on. ie. Emails. Weather. Star reader. The battery will day VERY VERY quickly. Like HALF A DAY OR LESS. This can be tremendously improved by removing THE STAR READER. Bad programming if you ask me. Not the fault of N 97.

(18) I havent found  the way to reset/reformat the N97. Help anyone ?

(19) The Ovi Store currently is bollocks. There's less there than Penang Football Association coffers. But then again, maybe because it is still new and apps are still being developed.

(20) QWERTY KEYBOARD !!!. Ok this i have some serious issues with.  To write a capital letter you have to press a shift up button first and then the corresponding word. Not user friendly. Here's the main gripe. to insert a number using the qwerty keypad  you have to press a button first and after that you press the corresponding number button.  DEY !!! what happen to press and hold technique for the numbers !!!!... COME ON NOKIA !!! THIS IS YOUR FLAGSHIP PHONE !!! THIS AINT NOKIA 3210 !!!.

(21) Last ( for now)  When you buy the phone, look at  the bottom of the phone screen. You will notice that the bottom there the colours are a bit off. It looks like theres some dark smudges at the bottom. This is more apparent with the white one. Theres none of that in the Iphone. Apparently the black spots there is caused by some LED lights not diffusing the colours evenly. I've scoured both Midvalley and Lowyat. All phones black and white seem to have the same problem. The only compensation is to find a phone which seem to have less dark spots and hope it stays that way .

(22) Having said all that, im pretty satisfied with the phone, i like it more than the Iphone ( any of it, 2G,3G,3GS). That says a lot about the Iphone. Even with all the warts the N97 have, the Iphone IMHO is a worse option. I had my taste of the Iphone. I dont think I will go down that path again by buying another Iphone.

(23) Any feedback, comment, question, sharing pls email me at roni.azlanATgmail.com
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(6) The on board RAM is rubbish, 128 RAM and the moment i wanted to use it it has only about 20 MB left. and i havent even installed anything yet.

-I think the 20Mb left you are referring to the phone memory storage (the one u can see in file manager) and not RAM. since it has only approximately 70Mb total, and 41Mb is used by system. a typical N97 fresh booted up phone has about 45Mb of RAM. Yes it's still low compared to the older Nseries phone. Hopefully it'll get better with newer firmware. So far havent run into low memory error yet though.


(11) The Iphone Email Exchange see your sent email even from emails you sent from your office computer. The N97 can only see emails you send from the phone

-did you use the built in e-mail apps (the one in your SMS menu), or did you download the Nokia Messaging 10 from the SW Update? The Nokia Messaging is superior and it does display message you sent, either by using phone or computer smile.gif (in my case, im using Hotmail)

(12) The Facebook application on the Iphone can post pictures on the wall posts. Havent found such option on the N97.

-I dont think it's possible to post picture on wall yet. as of now, the facebook apps is still very very limited and crippled function compared to a full browser version. heck, it's not even possible to add a new friend from the phone. my advice is to login facebook using the browser on the phone if there's function that you couldnt find in the apps. again, this can be improved since this is a software issue. it still looked cool on the homescreen though wink.gif

(18) I havent found the way to reset/reformat the N97. Help anyone ?

-No. None yet. Even 5800XM dont get their hard reset function until the later v20.x firmware. For now, there is only soft reset via *7370# which restore everything to factory setting.

(19) The Ovi Store currently is bollocks. There's less there than Penang Football Association coffers. But then again, maybe because it is still new and apps are still being developed.

-Agreed, and agreed smile.gif


(20) QWERTY KEYBOARD !!!. Ok this i have some serious issues with. To write a capital letter you have to press a shift up button first and then the corresponding word. Not user friendly. Here's the main gripe. to insert a number using the qwerty keypad you have to press a button first and after that you press the corresponding number button. DEY !!! what happen to press and hold technique for the numbers !!!!... COME ON NOKIA !!! THIS IS YOUR FLAGSHIP PHONE !!! THIS AINT NOKIA 3210 !!!.

-it's dumb, i know...you are not the first person to complain about this. hopefully nokia will notice these complaints and fix it in next firmware.

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post Jul 20 2009, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(azlanroni @ Jul 20 2009, 12:50 AM)
Hi gzero.

1. Oh its 70MB and not 128 ?. Ok. My bad then, but still, why does apps and email are by default saved in the c: phone memory folder. If its for RAM purposes then it should be left alone and be made much bigger. 20 plus Ram is not much to play around with.

2. Nokia Messaging unfortunately doesnt support corporate mails sad.gif

3. True. It looks cool on the home screen though. Which btw can the homescreen be resized. Lets say i want to make the facebook widget to take the WHOLE space of my phone. Can that be done ? anyone with any ideas ?

4. Oh no hard reset ? thanks for the info smile.gif , btw what happens if i were to hard reset it ? everyhthing goes back to from day one ? what about my trial version of quickoffice and pdf reader. Would they be restarted as well ? would be nice if it did smile.gif

5. Since Ovi is crXX right now, is it possible to download from another source ? like Cydia did to Iphone ?

6. How do we get the developer's notice ya ? is there like a specific forum where this nokia developers like to hangout ? these ppl really need to learn how to create a phone. One or two more models like this and Nokia will go down the drain.

Anyways how's your phone holding up so far ? any quirks you wanna share ?
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1. Nono, u got that wrong. They are 2 different thing. One is called Phone Memory, the one you see in file manager. It's similiar to a hard disk on your computer, a built in storage. That one has 70++MB. Dont let the Phone "Memory" term fool you. The second one is the actual memory RAM just like your computer RAM. N97 has 128Mb RAM onboard, but you can't see it unless you are using a third party program. This 128Mb of RAM are not used by e-mail messages or apps so don't worry. smile.gif They go into the phone storage instead. I have no idea why the default apps are all installed in phone storage instead of the 32GB mass storage. However, you can configure such that any future message are stored in your mass storage and also choose to install apps into mass storage. Personally, i uninstalled many unncessary widgets from the phone so i can free up more space for the phone.

3. Can't resize. However, what i hate more is the fact that we can't remove or hide the stupid clock/profile/date widgets on top. It's blocking my beautiful wallpaper and it's driving me nuts. Why can't they make it like the 5800XM where you can display full clean homescreen? sad.gif

4. Not sure about hard reset since it isn't available yet. Haven't try it before on other phone neither. BUt the soft reset merely bring it back to factory setting. All the softwares were intact including my phonebook (surprisingly), i lost 2 pre-installed game though. Guitar hero and the Sims 3. It's a special promotion when i bought the phone, they offer 2 full version games.

5. Since Ovi is crXX right now, is it possible to download from another source ? like Cydia did to Iphone ?
Not sure about Iphone, i'm not an Iphone user smile.gif. But you can download apps, theme and games from many sources i can't point out here. But just google and search something like "s60v5 apps" or something similar. Some of the stuff in Ovi store are also available on these third party sites.

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post Jul 21 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(toilet bowl @ Jul 21 2009, 02:10 PM)
where can i download the guitar player? adter format the phone, the game gone already...
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yeah the same happened to me, but i lost 2 games...i sent to NCC to fix the firmware issue the other day and the phone came back with the guitar hero installer again biggrin.gif if you want PM me, i think i might be able to send it to you
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post Jul 22 2009, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(giorgene @ Jul 22 2009, 10:23 AM)
how much 3-week-old white N97 worth?
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uhmm..worth about the new price set? AP or ori? either way, i'd say probably around 2.1k? depending on how bad the seller want to sell it.
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post Jul 23 2009, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(trickle @ Jul 22 2009, 06:31 PM)
Thanks! I have used the 'Any Video Converter' but the movie seems have been squeezed and look weird. Maybe I need to join the Free Video Joiner. I will try it. Thanks!
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the nokia pc suite (not Ovi suite) has a component called video manager which converts any video files (i think) to mp4 format, it has a simple conversion interface and is optimized for n97. you will have to download it from the nokia website.
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post Jul 23 2009, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(blinky @ Jul 23 2009, 02:33 AM)
Make sure you double-check the drop down menu on the right. It has several video options like "PSP", "3GP" etc. Make sure you select "MPEG 4 for Mobile Phones".

Added on July 23, 2009, 2:34 am
I don't think Video Manager rips and converts Blu-Ray DVDS.
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yes, but i don't think he's referring to ripping dvds/br-d though. he wanted to convert rmvb to mp4. but hey, n97 is using a real player so shouldnt rm and rmvb format be supported directly? trickle, have you tried copying your rmvb file into phone and play it directly without converting it?
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post Jul 27 2009, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Jul 26 2009, 11:19 PM)
i wonder does this phone has kinetic scrolling for the phonebook?
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phone book scrolls using the scrolling bar, just like windows. you dont drag the phonebook freely, so no kinetic scrolling. however, in internet browser and certain apps, yes, there is kinetic scrolling.
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post Jul 29 2009, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(mannquin @ Jul 28 2009, 08:35 PM)
Guys, I got my back cover replaced today because there were lots of scratches on the lens, now I'm on my second one and it is already scratched!
Damn, what should I do? Why in this forum I am the only one experiencing this problem? I googled and found that a lot of people are having this annoying problem
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i have minor scratches on the side but it hasnt affect the quality of the photo taken so far. yes, it's serious design flaw on nokia side and there are many complaints about it. now i dun dare to open/close my camera cover unnecessarily liao..lol
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post Sep 9 2009, 04:49 PM

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yes it's working, my camera has no sound and im on v12
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post Sep 17 2009, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(dry75 @ Sep 17 2009, 05:51 PM)
got a problem after upgraded to version 12. Each time i speak on the phone, realised after about 15 seconds the light will be out meaning leaving a complete dark screen. Then the green and red button wont respond also making me unable to end the call. Only way is to un slide the keyboard, then screen light up again for me to touch end button. Super inconvenient. Later realised my screen saver time out is set at15 seconds. Anything to do with this? Please help.
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nop. didnt happen to me...i tried all diff time out timer 5,10,15 ...it did went dark after time out, but the moment i press the red button, everything turns on again and it hangs up normally.
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QUOTE(LsChong @ Sep 29 2009, 10:11 AM)
Nobody is having problem with the n97 video recording. Anyone encounter blurry when shooting video recording. blurry and not focus when taking nearer object?

seem like no one complaint about this then it must be mine problem.
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n97 has poor focus when come to video recording if i am not mistaken....i haven't really checked mine though
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post Oct 6 2009, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 6 2009, 04:28 PM)
That's for unbranded product, for us, it's "branded product" refer to Zitron and Avaxx
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Zitron and Avaxx is considered unbranded imo. Branded is like those u signed up contract with service provider and stamped with their brand name (i.e maxis)
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post Oct 22 2009, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Abie.C @ Oct 22 2009, 03:16 PM)
want to ask about the wifi. i connect my n97 with office wifi but dunno what happen it only connects 1 or 2 minutes and it automatically disconnect from my office wifi. Anyone can help me.

anyone use facebook on n97. i have ths problem that i could not connect to it. " Error occurred, status: underfined "
how can i make it connects.
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I do not have problem with wifi automatically disconnecting every 1-2 mins. Your setting is fine. In fact, i turn off my wifi scanning. I only connect it manually if i know there's wifi around me. Maybe u can try turning off the wifi scanning, then connect manually via "Settings -> Connectivity -> Wireless LAN"?

Before logging in your fb widget, make sure click "Options" and change "Content to online mode".

" Error occurred, status: underfined " <- I encountered this only once. It means your fb has crashed. You will need to reboot your phone. Or, remove the fb widget from homescreen and reinsert it again. Then try logging in again.

Let me know if it helps.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Oct 23 2009, 01:25 PM)
upgrade a lot,some more i love only Symbian.
camera upgrade,CPU upgrade,xenon flash,and upgrade the outlook also. tongue.gif
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with all due respect sir, the outlook looks like crap not to mention the back thickness which is not uniform and looks weird. if you have read the review, the camera is not really performing up to expectation considering it's 12MP (no HD recording despite having 12MP cam), very bad battery life (less than a day), no built in 32gb (or even at least 8) storage, not really a huge CPU upgrade, UI sluggish, no 3.5mm audio jack, no qwerty keyboard etc.

no offense, but this is my opinion. tongue.gif

If i were to choose an upgrade, it would be HTC HD2 or the upcoming Xperia X3. Heck, even the old Omnia HD is wayyy better at a cheaper price.

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