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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V19, There's still few beasts hiding...

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post Jul 15 2009, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 15 2009, 10:40 AM)
as my prediction...
i will be the last man here to stay at ddr2..or mebbe ventrilocks the last..
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don't worry, with me here you definitely wont be the last one at ddr2 tongue.gif i'm one of those 3-5 year change people tongue.gif

btw guys, need a bit of help. using extreem's screenshots i've managed to set up my 9150e at 2.5GHz, now i'm lowering the cpu voltage to find the lowest stable (complete opposite of usual exploration overclocking tongue.gif) since i'm fine at FSB 280. my problem is my RAMs, they're rated for 1066, but i'm having trouble getting past post when i change the divider from 533 (3:4) to anything higher. even 667 (3:5) won't get past post, which i cant understand. pumped the ram voltage to 2.2 didn't help either. any ideas?
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post Jul 15 2009, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 15 2009, 03:41 PM)
imo, either chipset or chip doesn't like ddr667 divider when htt > 230ish. mine can boot but w/ cmos cleared...  tongue.gif

try to find out d max freq ya ram can do, then use ddr800 divider. if ya ram is good then u mite able to reach 280htt which is as ya wish. mine max out near 270htt & i'm on lousy twinmos value ram.  smile.gif
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alrighty, i'll give it a shot and see how it goes. i've reset the cmos so many times that all the settings i could probably do with my eyes closed now tongue.gif my ram is hyperx, which i think should be the elpida chips since i only got the stuff around 2-3weeks ago.

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 15 2009, 04:23 PM)
@personified
mebbe u dont have more choice...use 400mhz devider la..hehehe
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NO WAY IN HELL! tongue.gif i refuse to use 400mhz divider tongue.gif
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post Jul 15 2009, 07:27 PM

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thanks for the tip ah_khoo, i set the divider to 800 and its doing well, had to lower my fsb a bit though, which sucks. lost about 70MHz, due to my ram's limitations i guess.

current overclock would be:
FSB = 272MHz
HT Multi = 7x (1400MHz)
NB Multi = 7x
CPU = 2448MHz
RAM = 1088 (5-5-5-18)

havent primed it yet, but i'll probably do so tonight after i test how low the voltages can go wink.gif

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post Jul 15 2009, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 15 2009, 07:32 PM)
can u pls do the max cpu for me?
using 400mhz divider ofcos..just want to know how far the proc can go...can a?or u did that edi?
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for the proc i'm using?
the max i did was with fsb 280, which was 2520MHz. i believe extreem managed to get 2610MHz by using fsb 290.
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post Jul 15 2009, 10:34 PM

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yeah, for my board 284 was the highest i could go with all the other components at their lowest multiplier. Vcore was +200mv, so the final Vcore was 1.264 according to cpuz.

the main limiter with the 9150e is the locked multiplier. without headroom there you're limited by your max FSB, and the highest most can go doesnt need more than 1.3V wink.gif
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post Jul 16 2009, 03:57 AM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 15 2009, 10:54 PM)
what board u using?nb volt been pump? the mobo volt... i wud love to see that chip run at 3.0ghz at least..huhuhuh
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the board is a DFI JR 790gx mr2s, as stated in my siggie. NB was at 1.3 at the time. to reach 3GHz with that proc you need 333 fsb, nothing less =x the multiplier maxes out at 9x.

Btw fellas, i've been priming using 4 instances running custom with 400mb of ram to each. does this sound sufficient to test for stability? i couldnt run all the instances with blend because it tends to use almost all the available ram, so unless you run 1 blend and the other 3 cpu only i'm guessing what i'm doing makes sense?

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post Jul 16 2009, 08:51 AM

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could you post your settings? i'm not sure how the options are in prime 95, but when you use stress prime (which is a prime 95 front end) and you run more than one instance of blend, it does indeed cause one of them to fail due to lack of ram (they both fight for the whole thing, i think).
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post Jul 16 2009, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 16 2009, 09:28 AM)
it's ok to sacrifice some clock in order to maximize d bandwidth mate, give & take we must.  nod.gif

nice freq on d ram there, vdimm needed is?  unsure.gif

i use p95 & my habit is run custom, leave everything untouched (min @ 8k, max @ 4096) except amount of ram & time. amount of ram @ 1024MB (i'm on 4GB), time  @ 1min (fastest way to complete 1 full cycle > near to 3 hours compared to 15Min which require almost 8 hours to complete 1 cycle). in case u dunno, p95 stresses systems more than orthos does. wink.gif
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haha, i can definitely understand that. unfortunately, that OC was unstable in the memory test, i was getting errors in sp2004 and then i decided to clock it with memtest, also no luck regardless of the voltage. i didnt dare go beyond 2.25, and it was still erroring so now i'm pushing it back to the 3:4 (533) divider and pushing my fsb as far as it can go. i'll try it with p95 later wink.gif sp2004 running stable for 12+ hours as i'm writing now.

current settings would be:
fsb: 285mhz
cpu: 2567mhz @ 1.26V
ram: 760mhz (4-4-4-12) @ 1.8V

will try tightening my timings again later wink.gif i just realized that while its a lot of work, this is more fun than i imagined tongue.gif my old athlon was an unlocked chip, so there wasnt much to do, but when you're working with so many constraints its very satisfying to get the most out of your equipment! tongue.gif

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post Jul 16 2009, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 16 2009, 02:09 PM)
yup, that's d spirit, if u get things done in a harder way, u tends to appreciate it more. i'm not khx hater but imo khx ddr2 aint perform up to d level of performance ram. how bout 26xhtt w/ ddr800 divider on ram? u can shave off some volt for d chip + fully utilize ya ram? just a suggest thou, coz i prefer a more balanced setup for 24/7.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jul 16 2009, 02:25 PM)
4-4-4-12 on 1.8v..wow..nais.. drool.gif
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i have to agree, for some reason the newer khx's dont live up to the name. right now i'm just benching this cpu cause its going to my sis to do her rendering work, while i move on to a "dual core". moderno, i'll be visiting you soon brows.gif

as for the cas timings i was so pissed off at the damned rams for not working at 667 divider, and then some more the silly mobo go put such stupid timings like 5-6-6-18 on sub-800 timings. i was like nabei, take that! and then ran it through memtest wink.gif now i'm satisfied a bit.

i think the only good thing about hte khx now is that its cheaper than other rams. for example, i was looking at some mushkin ram for ddr800 at 4-4-4-12, its around rm190. the khx kit was 145, and since my cooler is a S-N config rather than E-W, i can fill all 4 slots since the heat spreader is low profile tongue.gif

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post Jul 16 2009, 07:37 PM

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momuchi, you my friend are a scary guy tongue.gif

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post Jul 17 2009, 01:44 PM

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not sure about ddr3, but i was just checking some ddr2 rams from ocz, apparently the reaper's use micron's as well? getting some new hardware next week to sidegrade my pc and upgrade my sister's, so i think i'm already racuned into getting some higher performance ram tongue.gif considering that my kingston hypers couldnt go stable any higher than 1066 QQ
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post Jul 17 2009, 03:57 PM

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hohoho, i just collected my 550be from moderno! XD XD

sadly the rest of the pc will only be arriving next week, so kena tunggu sambil gatal QQ
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post Jul 18 2009, 12:30 PM

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hey there syazone, i see you're going to be OCing the CF batch wink.gif its a good batch of procs we got then, almost guaranteed to be able to hit the 2.5GHz range if your mobo allows it.

check out the links at the first page of the thread, and maybe also this one, i found it very useful when i started OCing my phenom as well (i'm in the same boat as you, my last OC was also a barton tongue.gif)
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=267708

other than that, once you're sure of your mobo's highest fsb, you can use the voltage settings from any of the 9150e users here as a reference, like myself and extreem. depending on your cooler as well of course tongue.gif
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post Jul 18 2009, 08:31 PM

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or all watching the footie game today tongue.gif

hey guys, need a bit of shopping advice though. i'm torn between the ta790gx-128m and the ta790gx3-a2. any recommendations on either one? i'm trying to keep my costs a bit low, especially since the mobo is now breaking my old budget (was planning to get an ECS, the 780 ultra since it has the sb750 on it) but having tested it on my friends PC, i'm really disappointed to have found that i could only hit a maximum FSB of 240. going to be putting my current X4 on it, so i definitely need something which can hit 280.
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QUOTE(babyyi @ Jul 18 2009, 08:42 PM)
one more vote for 790gxe 128m....i tink 1 o 2 more week will available on malaysia market ^^
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damn, now comes the question, to wait or not to wait tongue.gif getting a bit girang to put the whole thing together next week... haih, need to crack my head again tongue.gif
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post Jul 19 2009, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(babyyi @ Jul 18 2009, 11:22 PM)
lolz...i aso hav this problem last week...bt nw i go for ddr3 d...2mr go get ram n board n proc...hehe
u try to pm kitkit when get stock.
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haha, thats just what i did. checking with some sellers now to see when can cepat dapat.
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post Jul 19 2009, 02:50 PM

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hmm, got a question. my ddr2 ram is also listed as ddr2-800 by cpuz. but its a 1066 kit. any reason why this might happen?
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post Jul 19 2009, 07:21 PM

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aha, thanks for the ram info guys.

and antonio, we're in the same boat bro tongue.gif mine is also sitting in its box, right now my room is like some pc shop, 3 extra chassis sitting around, some chassis boxes as well tongue.gif all thanks to the upgrading exercise we're running here tongue.gif
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post Jul 21 2009, 02:22 AM

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hoho, based on Regor. imagine if you could unlock it from x1 to x4 XD XD
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post Jul 21 2009, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 21 2009, 11:27 AM)
AMD Sempron is based on Regor?..Which Regor is X2..so mostly it can unlock to X2 only lor..not X4..Cos X4 is Propus tongue.gif
But still..i was hoping AMD would release an AMD Sempron X2 @RM135 but with 1MB Cache.(512KBx2)..That would be an awesome chip drool.gif
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But them Regor's are the ones we're unlocking to X4s aint it? wink.gif But in all seriousness I doubt it too, knowing AMD they'll likely be doing something like laser cutting or whatnot to ensure it wont be unlockable, or these are chips that the other 3 cores are so screwed that even if you do unlock them there's no way in hell they'll be stable tongue.gif

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