i survived d 5h challenge, but clock speed is...

all he need is a gud board like dfi/biostar to bring out d best of d chip...

u'll only learn when u kena, but that doesn't mean u'll always kena unless ur not learnin.

tell me who else offerin decent ocbility + d price which offered by biostar rite now? none i can tell...

wayyyyyyyyyy to looooooooow for ddr2.

ya ram is rated @ ddr2 800, so basically it should be able to do at least 400MHz. i reckon most DDR2 800 ram can pass 450MHz mark (or higher) w/o havin u pullin ya hair due to frustration...

juice = voltage, could be vcore, vdimm or anything which is measured in volt for oc purposes.

could it be bios related sir? asus is kinda picky too when it comes to core unlockin.

i'd say coolin... there's certain limit when d chip reach certain temp, d hot temp in mesia doesn't really help when it comes to air/water coolin.

1st of all, biostar doesn't have high end board else we'll see 790fx boards from biostar around d market. a high end board won't cost RM355 (kit_kit's special price) only, if that's high end then asus/giga/dfi/msi are very very very... high end boards ledi...

more like d wallet of d seller is easier to spoil coz d profit margin is small compared to so called "not so easy to spoil" boards.

actually from 0923 & onwards chances are mix that one will have unlockable core(s). sure possibilities are higher w/ proven batch but there is/are always bad apple(s) among d proven batch(es). if that applied to proven batch(es) what's more those normal batch(es). it's a gamble to me, at least...

yup, gigabyte is byfar d best in core unlockin, but too bad their cf boards don't come cheap...
yes, w/ tx3 & 3 cores, u'll see drastic improvement (at least 5'c estimated but depend on air flow of ya case) imo.

his ram is rated ddr3 1333 @ 7-7-7-x, so meanin that they're capable of at least 667MHz.

i'm sure ya chip is capable of more but mileage mite be limited by chipset/board.

fly = gone to heaven = die...

joke aside, fly means go as far as it is capable of imo.

oc is like sports, there's no limit until u fry ya chip...

lower nb freq or increase cpu-nb vid perhaps?

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 30 2009, 09:32 AM

memory dump on a3+ = unstable oc, either reduce clock or pump more juice will do.

3.5GHz @ quad w/ load temp of 50'c, i'd say it's decent enuf bro. can't really compare to true as d latter cost alot more.

time for 790gxe 128m mebe? that is if u wanna stay on ddr2 platform, if ddr3 then 790gx a3+ ftv...

a hr-09 on 790gx seems a 'lil bit over kill... some diy mosfet cooler + fan will do d job well enuf.

yup, there's no such thing as gud & cheap, some compromise are needed when one is on tight budget. biostar is gettin better & better nowadays, for a board that cost only RM355 (or slightly more) in 790gx a3+, they managed to use full solid caps & squeezed in ieee1394 which can't even be found in dfi lp dk series. not forgettin they also upgraded d much needed 4 + 1 pwm @ cpu & 2 pwm @ memory for better power efficiency which can be found on their newer model like 790gxe (matx), 790gxe 128m & 790gx a3+. as mentioned, w/ 3 years warranty provided, one can safely tweak their system to d max w/o worry of their boards mite die after few months (provided no hardcore oc done). i'm quite sure some if not most will sell off their boards even b4 d warranty period end, so why worry...

no doubt that we've witnessed few blowout cases happened on biostar board, but other than d manufacturer, users themselves should take some responsibility on damaged incurred. long hours of stress (especially prime95) can kill mosfets if no proper coolin/safety measure take place, heck, this oso happened on msi & dfi (i've saw few), what's more biostar which targeted mainstream line? some mite say ost caps used on non solid cap boards of biostar are not durable enuf, but for me gone were d day where we can easily see bloated caps on mobo like d gud old day of k6/k7.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 30 2009, 03:44 PM

i hate u bro...



This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 30 2009, 03:41 PM

more like w/ prime, each test take 15mins (by default) to complete, that's why i always set time to run fft = 1 mins, faster to complete 1 whole cycle + faster error detection.

but linx seems gud to me as well, i'm just too noob to use it...

we hate u becoz ur more hensem...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 30 2009, 04:59 PM

is 64-bit faster than 32-bit in day to day operation bro? feel like changin to 64-bit too... else wastin d almost 1GB ram for nothing...

btw, job very well done @ 3.8GHz w/ relatively low vcore...

once an expert always an expert...

yalor... jom same2 kite org pi rumah dia pastu rampas golden chip tu...

4.1GHz on air coolin done on biostar board, dfi pong kene pwspwn kaw2...

possible for higher clock in 3dm 06 bro? w/ d rate ur goin, i believe 4.0GHz is doable w/ some tweaks.

again, well done bro...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 31 2009, 03:54 PM

32-bit os sure can't fully utilize d 4gb ram no matter what tweak applied bro. eventhou windows/sw can read 4gb but doesn't necessarily mean all 4gb will be allocated for d os, there're some reserved for other peripherals iirc...

there's always an onboard temp probe (for cpu) mah...

ht link frequency @ genie bios page. this is d 2nd time i've mentioend this iirc... u owe kopi for tellin u twice...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 31 2009, 04:23 PM

yup, there's something wrong w/ d layout but if d price come near to 790gx a3+, why not?

no bling2 swtiches = less cost hopefully. d clear cmos jumper can be solved by gettin a ss cmos clear (or something like that) ma...

bro, usually uds3 would be cheaper if compared to uds4, but still gigabyte in sgp are always overpriced like msi...

i wonder what's wrong w/ gigabyte, 790gx should be better than 790x (but seriously not much diff to me coz they're almost identical w/ 790gx bein newer), but they put 790x w/ 8+2 phase while 790gx is havin only half of pwm of d former...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Aug 1 2009, 11:39 AM

bro, yas is not "real" 8+2 pwm accordin to asus leh...

btw, any progress of ya dj-e oc bro? this is almost d wall of mine on this "can't do high htt board" a.k.a el cheapo biostar 790gx a3+...

do try out if u have time bro, wanna find out how well our ram fetch under other mobos, especially those w/ award bios...

mebe ya 4th core aint healthy enuf bro... but still try harder to find d solutions, that's what make it fun, isn't it? my case is diff coz there's no core(s) to unlock & w/o unlocked multi d chip is like half crippled in oc...

turn off c&q & green power utility in bios, it's a must (for me) if there's oc done especially d latter.

for 790gx a3+, i can safely say 06/29/09 is d best so far, even for lousy chip like mine.

addin vimc a.k.a cpu-vb voltage is a must if u oc d nb freq, else instability is what u get. for stock volt i reckon it's gud for 2000MHz ~ 2200MHz (mite be higher) depend on board/chip.

there's no guarantee for unlockin especially a brand new chip, it's a hit or miss scenario that's why i prefer buy proven stuffs which ledi tested.

d bad core(s) can be any 2 of d 4 cores, not necessarily d last 2 or first 2.

mane 3d mark @ 4.0GHz ss bro...

if 4 cores scenario, yes, worker 2 will always stresses core #2, but in dual/tri-core setup, it could be diff case coz we wouldn't know core(s) #? outta 4 has/have been disabled.

u can't disable core usin aod which is only gud for disablin acc or lower multiplier for individual core. however, core disablin can be done usin msconfig in windows or via downcore option in bios. for ya case, u can always use lower multiplier for core #2 while leavin d rest @ oc'ed setting. all d best...

yalor... he didn't realize how lucky he is to own such a gud chip (thou his skills play a big role there )...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Aug 3 2009, 08:56 AM

downcore is gud for disablin core(s) but minus d option to choose which is to be disabled, i supposed it's same w/ msconfig method.

there must be special label(s) (for bios to recognize) on those defective core(s) else by usin either stated method d healthy core(s) could be accidentally disabled while d unhealthy one(s) being enabled...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Aug 3 2009, 09:20 AM

yup, old models of biostar 790gx boards have weaker pwm (4 phase) if compared to newer (4+1 phase). noticeable change in components used (especially chokes) also make d latter better than their predecessors too.

1.4Xv for benchy still considered ok but not long hours primin...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Aug 4 2009, 09:27 AM