QUOTE(hirari @ Jul 16 2009, 08:10 AM)
I'm sure some of you have heard of this somewhere before.
"War is a continuation of politics by other means." - Von Clausewitz.
Yes, the purpose of war is to serve a political end, but the true nature of war is to serve itself.
In other words, the soldier who is most likely to win the war is the one most willing to part company with the politicians and ignores everything except the destruction of the enemy.
But in a nuclear war, the true enemy cannot be defeated. Because in my humble opinion, in a nuclear war, the true enemy is war itself.
Yes, Crimson Tide,
Lieutenant Commander Hunter.
QUOTE(tentenko @ Jul 16 2009, 09:37 AM)
as long there is human, there will be war..
and "As long as we are human, there will still be work to do". war is a thing to do but politically, war is a master plan by politician to achieve their goal whether bad of good..technology(nuke weapon and all) is just a tool to achieve the goal..
but not all war r promote by human. war such as the crusade, it was a god's command..you dare to defy god command?
Crusades...religion, all religion as we know it on this terrestrial ball, is but humankind's interpretation of what we consider to be a divine firmament/mandate. Why else would there be variations on the concept of a divine being, even a monotheistic one?
//Moderate off-topic
QUOTE(tentenko @ Jul 16 2009, 10:24 AM)
well, hitler was a high profile person and very charismatic man.. i've watch this ww2 documentaries..the promote of ww2 occurred not rightafter hitler become fuhrer of german nor because of his hatred for the ally and jews(bcoz he's a war veteran of ww1) but his vision for germany to seize living space and resources that lead to ww2..and his speeches are quite religious and also convincing for mere citizen..such like the genocide of Jews are necessary and the invasion of polands..
well, some do oppose him including his own fellow party members..but only realized after the killings of millions civilian..
His own party members, if you meant the crowd who initially followed the Socialist line of National Socialism, became uh...district leaders (translation from
Gauleiter?), and were soon left to complacent administrative roles. The ones who could directly do anything, didn't care or didn't dare. The ones who tried ended up dead (July 20 1944, White Rose, to name but two).
World War 2 occurred because too few people saw National Socialism as Hitler presented it for what it was. Post-WW1, Germany was in a state of disarray. Not helping was the fact that certain circles of society (the military brass not the least) considered Germany's loss a result of being backstabbed, by Jewry, by the politicians, take your pick: kind of depends on whose story you find credible. The war reparations levied on Germany (Soon to suffer the effects of the Great Depression) by the victors post-WW1 certainly compounded things. All in all...the people in Germany weren't exactly all smiles day in, day out. Primal discontent lurked, and Hitler just so happened to eventually arrive at the helm of what became a provider of various outlets for the populace's discontent.
With regards to one of the esteemed posters above, Hitler's decision to go to war was both a personal decision backed by...political ideologies. Not public opinion, not entirely. Bearing in mind this was prior to the advent of mass-marketed mainstream computers, never mind the Internet, most people relied on official sources of information to form their ideas on what's right and wrong, what's black and white. Given that the Propaganda Ministry/Ministry of Public...Enlightenment (or Entertainment? Can't remember the exact name offhand) was under Nazi control, it would hardly be easy to form a realistic view of the situation. Even if one did...there's always the Gestapo and the SD to 're-educate'.
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