turtling against gief is not call turtling anymore.. its called Zoning, its how you supposed to fight against him.

not perfect crossups will result in eating lariats.
block strings will results in eating SPD or even Ultra.

This post has been edited by Zangief82: Sep 14 2009, 05:43 PM

nope..im happy if he berserks mode kau me, and i try to break my personal record of KO him within 10 secs..or vice versa
Anyway, i wont be happy if he turtles me, but i cant be mad as well because thats how they should fight gief, and i can learn how to anti-turtle.

Gief 1200 stamina - Akuma 800?
Gief's 1 heavy punch can sum up to normal fireball damage.
in the end he will be pissed knowing after running away with so much pressure and end up eating gief one ex-green hand combo.

tips: keep on blocking and move forward slowly until the corner . the options that normal average akuma has is either air tatsu away, or teleport away.

air tatsu away - do a HP punch green hand followed by a Ex green hand ( should be able to cover the distance , then lariat if still on air, or SPD if akuma is just landed, remember always use lP SPD )

Teleport - this is my FAv, if you know he's about to teleport, jump back 2 times and Ultra him, range will have to adjust.

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i still lose to akuma, but not the always runaway type. those are history. Akuma's greatest weapon against gief is his raging demon upon my air landing, raging demon after he blocked my Ex green hand, and his front HK ( two kick motion, followed by his bread and butter combo )
his air pokes also beats lariat if timed right, and if timed right, youwill eat his bread and butter combo upon landing again.

hmm...have you checked for the latest updates from GFWL? you mean everytime you log in to GFWL it auto signs in the offline version?

i think u might need to create an online GFWL account. its not registered through the game..

you have to reg through the net.

finally one stupid question..

did your friend key in the ori CD-key while installing?

Guardio...lets rematch, yesterday was lag man..i was laughing at that match..hahah like when you jump over i can think..hmm cr.hp, haha.

Mikee's friend is doing artwork for a Cheap price. The artwork Ain't bad.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28643120
EDIT:( sien..topic closed )

follow the thread above if you are interested.

This post has been edited by Zangief82: Sep 16 2009, 12:00 PM

my best advice is always, switch to sticks if you haven't. One day when Malaysia having SFIV arcades Everywhere, its easier for you to adapt.

Same goes for TEkken6, i know its much much more easier using pads to do juggling, but for high level play, sticks is still nicer to look at..hahaha.

OIC. good to hear that..

remember the rhythm of FADC to ultra.

its same for Ryu, same for Gief, same for many other characters.

so if the motion is in your mind, it is just a reflex to you. if you are looking for a shortcut, well i guess there aren't . Everyone also at least spend some time inside training room to execute it.

try set the dummy to computer and do it for 15 mins everyday.
you can also set the dummy to RECORD , and make the computer jumps in to you with air mid kick, then set the dummy to PLAYBACK to train your reflexes, how late can my SRK be, HOw early will it hit? timed FA right after opponent leaves the floor. etc.

hope this helps.

Wow, i never knew that.. i think that might be my mistake as well. extra input df, hmm..

yup played with you once.. i think everyone here needs to lose kau kau..because thats the best way to learn SFIV ...

i lost more than 300 matches from zangief 1.0 to 6.0

Fremont88 so your new char is Bleach now? hahah

the reason i have a version is because i really find a huge leap between each version, the first tournament i went zangief 1.0 shows how noob i am,
though until now im still noob, but thanks to everyone that taught me things i can now face the greatest opponents while still giving them enough pressure.

7.0 coming up this Raya, training on knee drop cross ups, FADC ultras, and the most important head butt mixups.!

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Added on September 18, 2009, 12:28 pm HAPPY BIRTHDAY HATRED_



This post has been edited by Zangief82: Sep 18 2009, 12:38 PM

its the best moment ! how i wish i could go back to Zangief 1.0 and progress from a noob to an intermediate again.. if you really train hard..you will see those who you cannot beat last month, you can start getting even matches. ( they will give you the expression of Walao! so fast you improve liao! )
SFIV is this type of game where no one can win forever..

so its just when is your time to Shine..

Ken 0.1 GAMBATEH! see you at the top..

play some online - offline matches from TRISTANX he is the best ken around

This post has been edited by Zangief82: Sep 18 2009, 03:48 PM

lol fought with you liao..you are in the correct direction..now left match experience only lo...your one in time ..in time sure geng one.

Bring Hugo back...period.

though its hard because zangief is already big enough, they can't make hugo smaller can't they..so standing only will cover the HP bar lo hahah.

haha let me try explaining.

PPP / KKK

PPP is a stronger wake up move for air atacks, but timed your lariat correctly then only lariat can be called imba.
kkk this is a trickier move because it has a shorter time and it hits Low then High. its better to punish those who like to Cr.HK sweep like Boxer, Akuma, guile etc.


how to time your lariat:
while crouching, and opponents jumps in with an attack, wait for him to reach your Gief's shoulder level ( while standing ) and press PPP. probably you will Trade, but hey its Zangief with 1200 stamina and the lower his Hp the stronger he can be Muahahahah.

Heres a move i never try before fighting with players, because i never met elf players got it from Ultra Davids threads.

--Unthrowable lariat
-----What: This is Gief's most useful application for the unthrowable special trick described above. The name describes this move pretty well; it just takes your lariat, which is normally 100% throwable, and makes its startup frames unthrowable. Unfortunately, it also makes your lariat lose to meaty attacks, since you have to press up before pressing lariat.
-----How: Press up and then ppp/kkk. You have to wait a split second between up and the buttons, sorta the same timing as with kara canceling. If you're doing this on your own wakeup, make sure you press up first, and make sure that the reversal message doesn't show up, because that means you inputted the ppp/kkk part of the motion too early.
-----Where: This is really only useful against Fuerte's run-grabs. Gief has more damaging ways to punish most command grabs, but Fuerte's recovers too quickly for those other ways to be viable.
(ultra David)


360 lp / Hp

refrain from using Hp SPD although it gives you more damage instead use lp SPD because it gives you more Range. thats the imbaness.
if you really want more damage, do the 360 HK instead because you end up right next to your opponent after it finishes.

This post has been edited by Zangief82: Sep 19 2009, 03:29 PM

Here is the Zangief Flowchart. it proved to be useful for real zangief users.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=202523

Sad, must be some punk kid that didnt go to school, KO you twice and he thinks he is better than you already..funny.

Well it's Raya and Forums usually have less people..so i decided to write a longer post about Gief.

This is how gief can surprise enemies.

Green hand wiff -->lp SPD
Green hand wiff -->Ex Green Hand
Green hand wiff -->lariat

Green hand wiff -->lp SPD
this is a good starting move, for soft characters, they tend to start the round by pressing backword. This gives you a free spd at the 3rd second of the game.
It also can be done continuously for 2 times to trick enemies because they think they can spam light jabs to cancel gief's spd.

Green hand wiff -->Ex Green Hand
Ok lets say your opponent suddenly goes berserk because his hp is less and you just can't spd him anymore, using this will punish him if he does the following -

FA, back dash, most normals upon wake up.

So opponents now also scared to do most things except for jump away, only if his timing is right if not here is where you should use your Green hand wiff -->lariat

But watch out for Ex Srk and Ex heatbutts, if their timing is right ( including SRK mashers ) his will punish you back just nice for Ryu's fadc ultra.
so use it to confuse enemies. not all the time.

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yup, it was nice training for me too. your zangief is fierce. but that style, you are using a pad?

well, if you can do complicated combos with keyboards then i think with some training on sticks, you can be magnificent someday.

well i always believe its like typing on the keyboard with 10 fingers, its slower at first but in the end when you master it, voila you are 10x faster than 2 fingers.

leave the comfort zone, take one step backwards and 2 steps ahead. well thats a metaphor.

well, let me know the details when its sure on! then i might drop to Penang and have a nice outstation offline matches.