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SUSweegee
post Nov 29 2009, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Nov 29 2009, 08:51 AM)
yeah I'm sure your 'research' = searching bias comments/info online. go do the real data interpretation by science point of view. Sheehs. Tell me and prove to me by basis of science/geology that it is a hoax. NOT just posting some youtube videos on ppl talking.
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its really hard to pinpoint the actual case for the agenda for whatever its worth manipulating. whenever scientists have something to say, it is always their claims via pocket full of bribes.

the suns temperature is increasing, they say, but there arent no factories and cars to warm it up.

then theres the melting ice in mars. there too i assume are no factories nor cars.

but if you jump over to bbc for some news reading, theres a report saying that the suns temperature is decreasing, thus allowing smooth sail for cosmic rays to eventuate clouds on earth. therefore allowing the earths natural cooling system perform at its prime. yet oddly our temperature here is still on an uphill climb.

you can always ignore facts that dont favor your study and stick with your own opinion. i guess that is science.
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post Nov 29 2009, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(bgeh @ Nov 29 2009, 10:16 AM)
Er, right, claims via pocket full of bribes. Proof?

Melting ice in mars? You mean the sublimating ice seen by Phoenix? That's quite likely due to direct radiation from the Sun, or just exposure to the atmosphere of Mars.

And as for the BBC thing, it might just be that the effect of CO2 emissions is obscuring any effect from this supposed natural cooling you're talking about, i.e. AGW? wink.gif
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what could be more motivating to initiate a hoax, and/or to proof wrong a hoax? money perhaps?

oh right, this thread is about global warming in the scientific context. not politicking.

This post has been edited by weegee: Nov 29 2009, 10:38 AM
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post Nov 29 2009, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(bgeh @ Nov 29 2009, 10:38 AM)
Sure, if you want to make a claim, perhaps you should be able to provide some proof of it instead smile.gif
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heres my claim.

say Co2 is the driver of the temperature, but how can it be when it has been happening repetitively throughout centuries and back then there were no factories to contribute that extra CO2? then some may say, what has been happening then is happening now, but why only now bring in internal combustion engines onto the table?

or it could be rightly explained the other way around, that the rise and fall of CO2 can be the product of temperature change. so nothing to be blamed.

as i see it, the story of cars and factories omitting CO2 is the cause of temperature rise is more dramatic to be sold. it seems as though we have the control over the nature, and preventing our dooms day is viable. so long as it sounds legit, people would buy it. money would be invested into the study of that aspect, in the false pretense of saving our world.

 

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