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 Homemade Greek yoghurt: An alternative to CC?

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TSkotmj
post Jul 2 2009, 11:11 PM, updated 17y ago

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117412151

"Buy plain fat free no sugar added yogurt (ingredients should only be cultured milk)
Place is in a collander lined with 2 folded over paper towels and put that inside another bowl so you can let the whey drip out.

"Put this in the refrigerator for four hours and let the whey drip out. You now have Greek yogurt, but if you add protein powder to it and freeze it, it's basically soft serve."


This got me really thinking. Buy Dutch Lady Low Fat milk for RM 3.50. Put in a teaspoon of commercial yoghurt. Leave for 12 hours till you get homemade yoghurt.

Put said yoghurt into an Ikea colander lined with paper towel, put into fridge for 4 hours (or longer). You then get Greek yoghurt. An alternative to the elusive and expensive cottage cheese.

What do you guys think? Too much work?
angrydog
post Jul 3 2009, 12:06 AM

More like "fatdog" amiright?
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Isn't the protein content in yoghurt only minimally higher than in milk (1-3 g / 100 g) at best? Hardly worth the trouble unless you're very fond of yoghurt.

I think it's hilarious that the poster suggests adding protein powder to the mix and freezing. Disgusting.
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post Jul 3 2009, 02:52 AM

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Why go through all that trouble? Might as well just eat the yoghurt and drink the milk separately since the protein content won't change anyway.
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post Jul 3 2009, 07:55 AM

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Forget about cc or greek yoghurt. Bata is offering 4lbs ON Casein for RM 220 compared to egonutritions' 2lbs at RM 200. You won't see me making yoghurt when casein is so cheap.


Added on July 3, 2009, 8:46 amThe idea behind CC and Greek yoghurt is that you remove a lot of liquid. You turn a liquid food into a solid food. This is practical because you do not want to drink a whole litre of milk before bed. You'd be peeing the whole night.

The second reason is to neutralize the lactose. Yoghurt is tolerable in large quantities, unlike milk.

Of course the whole reason for all this is that the time when you sleep is the last unconquered territory for many strength trainees/ BBs. They feed themselves well when they are awake, with whole foods or whey or whatever. But they do nothing in that third of a day they are sleeping.

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post Jul 3 2009, 10:05 AM

o2 + co2= coo22 ^_^lll
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i think you spending too much of time and money into supplement
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post Jul 3 2009, 01:29 PM

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I am, if you count ON Pro Complex and ON Casein (that's all) as excessive.
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post Jul 3 2009, 02:30 PM

More like "fatdog" amiright?
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Jul 3 2009, 07:55 AM)
Forget about cc or greek yoghurt. Bata is offering 4lbs ON Casein for RM 220 compared to egonutritions' 2lbs at RM 200. You won't see me making yoghurt when casein is so cheap.


Added on July 3, 2009, 8:46 amThe idea behind CC and Greek yoghurt is that you remove a lot of liquid. You turn a liquid food into a solid food. This is practical because you do not want to drink a whole litre of milk before bed. You'd be peeing the whole night.

The second reason is to neutralize the lactose. Yoghurt is tolerable in large quantities, unlike milk.

Of course the whole reason for all this is that the time when you sleep is the last unconquered territory for many strength trainees/ BBs. They feed themselves well when they are awake, with whole foods or whey or whatever. But they do nothing in that third of a day they are sleeping.
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Why not eat a couple of egg whites before sleeping, in that case? I'm not being facetious, I'm curious about why you're emphasizing this so much.

Also, I'm hardly in a position to talk smack about this, but the majority of the posters in the discussion you linked look pretty malnourished as it is (5'8"/132 lbs? 5'9"/158 lbs?) and, I suspect, might benefit more from simply EATING MORE IN GENERAL instead of picking over the nutritional content of dairy products. It just seems like a case of missing the forest for the trees to me.
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post Jul 3 2009, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jul 3 2009, 02:30 PM)
Why not eat a couple of egg whites before sleeping, in that case?  I'm not being facetious, I'm curious about why you're emphasizing this so much.
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I don't like egg whites. I prefer to eat eggs for pleasure, not for protein (I've mentioned this before). I don't know why. This whole fixation with casein comes from a DiPasquale book I read. "Amino Acids and Protein for Athletes" or something like that. It's a review of research into the role of protein in athletes with an emphasis on bodybuilders. So there was this research that tracked those who took whey, and those who drank a drink that has the same composition as milk, you know 20% whey 80% casein. And a few other papers.

The conclusion was that whey floods the blood with protein quickly, but because the body can't utilize it all at once to build tissue, some of it is oxidized and turned into fat or used for energy. Casein, however, sits in the gut for up to 8 hours, so it slowly trickles protein into the blood stream. I mean you have "fast" and "slow" carbs based on their GI. You have the same for protein. Casein is the "lowest GI" among the proteins. Albumen is somewhere between whey and casein.

So now you know why I've been talking about casein.

I have no comments about the skinniness of posters on bb.com!


Added on July 3, 2009, 9:04 pmI'll let DiPasquale speak for himself. This is a fair-use excerpt from a 456-page book.
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post Jul 7 2009, 06:52 PM

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Casein is glorious, but too expensive for somebody like me. Just eat at regular intervals. If you want to prevent the night time catabolism with a cheaper alternative, do as most people do here, cheese or peanut butter with a shake.

If you can afford casein (and ON Pro Complex), good on you!
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post Jul 7 2009, 07:59 PM

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It's a good thing you mentioned cheese. I made my discovery of the month at Giant last Sunday. Cheddar cheese, made in Denmark, a 200 g block for RM 8.90. Half of that, or 100 g, will give you 26 g of casein, negligible carbs, and 32 g of butter. That's 390 kcals. My new favourite snack at work.


Added on July 7, 2009, 8:01 pmI probably should have kept that to myself. Now there will be a cheddar cheese run on Giant and I won't be able to buy any.

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post Jul 7 2009, 08:15 PM

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I'm sticking to milk+whey and peanut butter for prebedtime. So that's one less contender for your cheese. xD

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