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Vincent Pang
post Jun 29 2009, 12:33 AM

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i did a quick comparison lately when my friend drop by. I try to get the similar angle, sorry didn't use tripod, but i think it's pretty accurate. Result were consistent even though i change angle

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guess which is which smile.gif
Vincent Pang
post Jun 29 2009, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jun 29 2009, 06:07 AM)
First, can you explain what your test exactly is?
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quite obvious there are couple of images, and i also asked which is which filter and i also mention comparison... so in short, different filters were used for each images to prove differences in filter.

here's the filter used

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conclusion, rank of filters

1) Hoya HD
2) B+w (alloy)
3) Hoya Pro1
4) No filter
5) Hoya HMC

the ranks also correspond to the price paid i believe...

Equipment used is Canon 40D + Canon 70-200mm F2.8 IS L


Added on June 29, 2009, 10:42 am
QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jun 29 2009, 10:29 AM)
Thank you very much for a good explnation. smile.gif .. So, I have decided to get a mid range uv filter for my 67mm and 77mm instead of getting high end 77mm and use step down ring to fit 67mm .. smile.gif ..

Thanks bro for the information.
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Think twice, see the result i posted. And you will use filter on the long run to protect front element of your lens, so stepping up or down is not recommended. You will try not to touch the filter as much as possible to avoid scratching the front element.

My 50mm f1.8 has no filter cause the normal Hoya which cost RM 30 is just bad. Hoya HD / B+w will cost almost half of the lens, i decided to leave it open smile.gif

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Vincent Pang
post Jun 29 2009, 12:52 PM

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if u think it's flaw, then it's flaws smile.gif

if u think i cheat, then i cheat smile.gif

nothing i want to defend and rather nothing i want to explain cause i understand LYN too well.

I'm believing what i'm seeing. I'm only getting B+W and Hoya HD filters for all my future lenses... if you are not believing it, i'm not forcing u to believe it smile.gif

the test was what i think is simple, screw in the filter, shoot something. Ppl in LYN will argue day until night why don't u shoot something else... why use canon and not nikon, why use auto WB, why use 70-200 f2.8 IS and not any other lens... why don't use tripod... i don't think i wanna go about explaining that.

As i say, it's a simple test, my friend came over to test out some lenses, i grab wat i have and use the normal setting i normally use and shoot. The only difference are filters used. I took the image with this '\' angle, i also took the image with '/' angle.

I don't work for Hoya, B+w or Canon, i don't really care if u think it's flaws/cheat or watever u call it smile.gif i believe wat i see... and i'm sharing wat i see... i won't spend too much time doing another test too to prove i'm right as i say, i don't care if i'm wrong smile.gif

HiroBoroi: no the post is not against u... hope u don't get offended... cheers
Vincent Pang
post Jun 29 2009, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Jun 29 2009, 12:56 PM)
i dont understand the yellow colour thingy in the photos. what are those?
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i also don't know smile.gif it's a weird thing i pick up using different filter... no the images are not edited, just copy paste... might be my auto WB not working properly... but it's something i don't like seeing in my photos...
Vincent Pang
post Jun 29 2009, 02:35 PM

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I check the EXIF, shutter speed is 1/1600. I shoot at different angle too... and it's consistent

it could be flickering, but it should be on both sides... See that Pro1 and B+w has some yellow / brownish only on the bottom right side of the photo and not on the left side of the photo. It's a round tube, it's not possible to have it on one side and not the other.

Hoya HD is clean however i shoot it... i first thought it was the angle... i shoot -, /, \, |... all same on HD, no yellowish...

i even clean the lens and filter thinking it could be some oil smile.gif

some of the point to note
1) how often do u have time to figure out how to fix the problem when you have an event going on?
2) is angle the problem ? Hoya HD has not have such issue. B+w only has some yellowish on this photo and shows none on other angles.
3) if it's flickering, how come it's not both sides since the tube is round smile.gif
4) why yellow? i don't know smile.gif hahahaha
5) is that something u'll be happy to see on ur photos? yes and no... in my case, i would say no...

no hassle, Hoya HD or B+W only, I don't have Pro1 with me now, it was my friend one, y don't u guys try it ? Hoya and B+w might be paying me under table, who knows... hahahahaha.. u guys try it out and share ur results smile.gif


Added on June 29, 2009, 2:38 pm
QUOTE(phazell @ Jun 29 2009, 02:35 PM)
between UV n CPL which one is best one to get? kinda confused a bit bout IQ using those filters coz izzit ok if i use CPL for indoor shoot (hotel)?
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u get 2-stop down with CPL, meaning slower shutter and thus killing some ambient to a certain extend... i don't think it's ok... any particular usage indoor for CPL?

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Vincent Pang
post Jun 30 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Jun 30 2009, 09:22 AM)
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aiseh, tak ada Hoya HD ka... highest range of Hoya smile.gif

u can see from the test that some filters like Tiffen and King can really introduce more flare


Added on June 30, 2009, 10:39 am
QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Jun 30 2009, 10:30 AM)
Kindly post the before and after 200 ringgit plus damage pics.  whistling.gif

p/s- Err ... normal scenery pics please ... dun wan pic of fluorescent tube la  doh.gif

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hahaha, it was at night, my only source of light for flare is fluorescent smile.gif

i still don't get why one part of the tube was yellow and not both sides since the tube is round...

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