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Filters Talk, Does it really make a different?
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TSSeng_Kiat
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Jun 28 2009, 04:20 PM, updated 17y ago
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Hi guys, Let talk about the filters effect .. does it really useful for you? when u will and will not use uv, cpl, etc filter? does a expensive filter like B+W 010M MRC XS- PRO UV HAZE Filter really make difference if compared to cheap hoya uv hmc filter? let talk about it! ..  .. This post has been edited by Seng_Kiat: Jun 28 2009, 04:20 PM
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DanielYee
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Jun 28 2009, 05:43 PM
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Getting Started

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I'm using B+W XS-Pro filters exclusively on all my lenses. They are slim, and very easy to clean compare to those Hoya SHMCs I used to own.
Quality wise, I have to admit... UV filters are the same. I don't know how durable are they as I don't do drop/smash test on my filters. But I will stick to B+W just for the ease to clean them. Hoya filters are really PITA to clean; often leaves smudges and clean marks all over the filter surface.
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TSSeng_Kiat
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Jun 28 2009, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(DanielYee @ Jun 28 2009, 05:43 PM) I'm using B+W XS-Pro filters exclusively on all my lenses. They are slim, and very easy to clean compare to those Hoya SHMCs I used to own. Quality wise, I have to admit... UV filters are the same. I don't know how durable are they as I don't do drop/smash test on my filters. But I will stick to B+W just for the ease to clean them. Hoya filters are really PITA to clean; often leaves smudges and clean marks all over the filter surface. So, all UV filters have the same output no matter expensive or cheap 1? .. the differences are material, and built quality? actually, I am thinking to get a UV filter for my lens .. but have not decide yet should I go to expensive or just cheapo one .. thinking of get one 77mm uv filter with a few step down rings to fit my lenses .. good idea?..
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dpenalty
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Jun 28 2009, 07:32 PM
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standard lens go for cheap filter ie. Hoya ... prime lens go for expensive filter ie. B+W
it is advisable to get step up ring to mount 77mm filter if financial constraint
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TSSeng_Kiat
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Jun 28 2009, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(dpenalty @ Jun 28 2009, 07:32 PM) standard lens go for cheap filter ie. Hoya ... prime lens go for expensive filter ie. B+W it is advisable to get step up ring to mount 77mm filter if financial constraint is there any different in photo quality if compared hoya uv hmc filter vs hoya pro 1?
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dpenalty
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Jun 28 2009, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jun 28 2009, 07:47 PM) is there any different in photo quality if compared hoya uv hmc filter vs hoya pro 1? am don't see any different (to my naked eye) except the price ... can consider get Hoya HD UV but more pricy
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ifer
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Jun 28 2009, 08:11 PM
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can u see any difference between the shutter speed of 1/500 and 1/2000?
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dpenalty
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Jun 28 2009, 08:40 PM
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i can see different between 30s and 1/8000s
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0168257061
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Jun 28 2009, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jun 28 2009, 05:20 PM) Hi guys, Let talk about the filters effect .. does it really useful for you? when u will and will not use uv, cpl, etc filter? does a expensive filter like B+W 010M MRC XS- PRO UV HAZE Filter really make difference if compared to cheap hoya uv hmc filter? let talk about it! ..  .. dont know bout Hoya, but... ultra cheapo makes diff.
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dpenalty
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Jun 28 2009, 08:53 PM
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that's big big different ... go go go buy B+W
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0168257061
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Jun 28 2009, 09:09 PM
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besides the reflection, the glare control also important. try use cheapo filter point to fluorescent tube , and compare to more expensive filter.
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ifer
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Jun 28 2009, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Jun 28 2009, 08:48 PM) dont know bout Hoya, but... ultra cheapo makes diff. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « even the god almightly b+w filters that so many people here worship has reflection... notice the carpet without filter and the carpet with filter... and your eyes cant differentiate the difference between 1/500 and 1/2000 doesn't mean it makes no difference to a film/sensor.
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joyyy
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Jun 28 2009, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(ifer @ Jun 28 2009, 08:11 PM) can u see any difference between the shutter speed of 1/500 and 1/2000? bad analogy
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HiroBoroi
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Jun 28 2009, 10:02 PM
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Which gives the best image quality? Cheap filter, expensive filter or no filter.
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luzzio
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Jun 28 2009, 10:05 PM
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UV filters are a conspiracy =p
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0168257061
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Jun 28 2009, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Jun 28 2009, 11:02 PM) Which gives the best image quality? Cheap filter, expensive filter or no filter. 
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DanielYee
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Jun 28 2009, 11:50 PM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jun 28 2009, 05:48 PM) So, all UV filters have the same output no matter expensive or cheap 1? .. the differences are material, and built quality? actually, I am thinking to get a UV filter for my lens .. but have not decide yet should I go to expensive or just cheapo one .. thinking of get one 77mm uv filter with a few step down rings to fit my lenses .. good idea?.. UV filter functions the same, but it differs from one another on its image quality. Best bet is to get a multicoated one, and get the top of the line if you could afford it. I would suggest you stay away from normal B+W and Hoya... get the MRC/SHMC version at least. It is not a good idea to use step-down rings... you won't fit in the original lens hood to the lens. you may share filters but I would rather plan my lens lineup wisely... I keep only lenses with 77mm diameter
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Vincent Pang
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Jun 29 2009, 12:33 AM
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i did a quick comparison lately when my friend drop by. I try to get the similar angle, sorry didn't use tripod, but i think it's pretty accurate. Result were consistent even though i change angle  guess which is which
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ifer
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Jun 29 2009, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(joyyy @ Jun 28 2009, 09:49 PM) bad analogy  what your eyes cant see doesnt mean what your sensor/film can't see duh
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wKkaY
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Jun 29 2009, 06:07 AM
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misutā supākoru
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QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Jun 29 2009, 02:33 AM) i did a quick comparison lately when my friend drop by. I try to get the similar angle, sorry didn't use tripod, but i think it's pretty accurate. Result were consistent even though i change angle First, can you explain what your test exactly is?
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