U suck dude. You dont even know Malaysia broadband is one of the worst service and speed? U paid rm88 for 1mbps + suck service. In other country, u can get much better speed and service with lower price. I am proud to be malaysian, but shame to have Tmnet.

Lolz, why you blame me for TMNet problem, should them lolz. I have paid RM88 but I can reach more than 1Mb/sec daily. And why you choose TMNet if you know they are bad, choose other lolz, like Jaring or TIME. C'mon...

Convenient to avoid my question?

Also you do realize asking people to choose Jaring or TIME in a country where the last-mile is almost entirely controlled by TM doesn't really help your argument.

You think I have a choice?! Here in Kuching the whole broadband internet market is monopolised by shitmix! Jaring/TIME have not even dared to step foot on such "foreign" land. You think i have a bloody choice here? Why not you kindly offer me RM1,500,000 a year so I can contract a submarine cable to Mediaring or Starhub? What utter BS!

And guess what, in my small apartment in the UK, there's Tiscali, TalkTalk, O2 Internet, Be UK, Three UK, Virgin Media, Bulldog, Pipex, Zen, SmallWorld and not to mention dozens of BT Ipstream/datastream/LLU-based small time vendors. The best part? I could swap my providers hassle free using MAC keys, at any damn time i please as long as my contract has ended. And because hundreds of thousands of others do the same thing, incompetent providers wither and die (like Tiscali, recently acquired by TalkTalk). Competition is stiff and customers are revered, not ridiculed. There is Ofcom to regulate the market, unlike our shell-organisation MCMC.

And its because of ignorant and easily contended people like you, who couldnt care less to push towards a more open and transparent ISP market, could tmnet continue to reign with absolute monopoly.

Just FYI, my current internet package in UK? Be Unlimited, 24 mbps for RM102/mo. Thats RM4.25 per mbps. In Kuching? a dysfunctional RM88 1mbps crapmix package. That's RM88 per mbps. You're paying 21x dollar-to-dollar basis.

Stop dreaming and start pushing for a fairer market.

This post has been edited by sennheiser: Jun 28 2009, 11:15 AM

Dudes! Why argue because of a dog shit company?
Stop arguing! Remember! Our enemy is TMNET! Not ourselfs!

Maybe something stuck for doing things, thats why the madness cant controlled. Leave it...

Of course you have choice, if you want developed country to compare us, don't live here in Malaysia.

TMNet have blocking us for somewhat, but better than nothing, you still can P2P, in other country cannot do that.

biatch0, TMNet not controlling TIME or Jaring speed and bandwidth, they have leased line to connect overseas, even their pings and speed better than TMNet. So, you have choice, to choose or not. It's your own decision...

Guys... Please..

No need to compare those countries.

Use unknown ones like Latvia, Poland, Slovania, Romania, Croatia all already boast of FTTH and VDSL2.
The EU allows any telco players within their group to invest in any member nations without restrictions.

Even within our region we are already behind Vietnam, Indonesia and Philippines.

We don't want to be compared to the likes of Laos and Papua New Guinea

You seem to have comprehension issues so let me lay it out for you. From a wired perspective in 90% of Malaysia you do NOT have a choice of ISP. Obviously if you were living in Malaysia and not under a magic rock in that magical developed country in Europe that has a lower standard of internet than us you would already know that.

It's like if I tell you that you are sentenced to death for commiting a crime but you can survive if the rope the hangman is going to use snaps. Does this imply choice on your part? Continue to argue your stand that TM is the poor victim in our country and I'll yield and admit you're just that dense.

I don't pick a fight or what, relax. No point to compare other country ISP (that were developed country), all we need is to do something why TMNet are outdated.

Of course I'm living at Malaysia, we still lucky bro biatch0, in Russia, my cousin stay at one of the university there and access the internet just no more than 24kb/sec and sometimes unstable, thats even worst for developed country, to compare us we still developing country, and we still can access such protected content and can P2P without worries that much. Don't compare different story biatch0, we talk about internet and not committing crime. Maybe I dense, but, I'm not that bad. Well, you already know their trick (you already know for years I believe), you still have the choice la bro, use their service or not, thats your choice (your power as end user), TMNet not forcibly you to use their service.

This post has been edited by pengiranijam: Jun 28 2009, 09:34 PM

agreed with you... we all have choices... if u don't like it... dont subscribe.. go to the one who can satisfy you... but sadly no one came close to what TM has to offer... not even maxis.. so deal with it ...

i'm currently just happy with my 512k streamyx... and i'm sure to be more than happy when HSBB launch..... iptv somemore... astro shall die when the time comes (i hate astro for as long as i can remember... but i have no choice... in future when i do, i would love to see they eat dirt with their 'ad infested paid tv ' .... long live TM.. he he

This post has been edited by theotherhalf: Jun 28 2009, 10:21 PM

Hey, I heard that HSBB provide the internet for their customers from as low as 10Mbps up to 1000Mbps. I think its a package u can choose.

Besides, the IP TV being used will use a separate line. Means if u subscribe 10Mbps, ur internet speed will stay at 10Mbps while u can still enjoy IP TV, without interrupting ur internet connection!

But still, not sure its true or not. Hopefully its implement as what we heard.

I'm merely looking at your posts and replying to them.

You were the one who brought up the topic of developed countries in Europe getting slow speeds.

You also talked about "choosing" TMNet like there was really much of a choice.

Also, according to the World Economic Outlook Report, April 2009 by the International Monetary Fund, Russia is NOT a developed country.

Why choose Russia when Malaysia can barely keep up with developing countries in our own region? Interesting considering Malaysia is the only one that keeps going on the news saying they want to be the next big IT hub worldwide.

Well, if you read your post before, I think you speak to wrong person, the TS are the person comparing us with outsider ISP.

As I said before, if you understand what meaning of choice, it is very common to answer, if you don't like don't use their service... thats what the choice.

Are you sure bro biatch0, Russia is developing country? Based on GDP, Russia is no.8 and if you refer @ http://english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/...2004/6591-gdp-0 is one of developed country thus if I'm not wrong Russian are the biggest food exporter.

Hi,
From my knowlege,Russia is a member of BRIC(Brazil,Russia,India,China) which are the combination of the greatest 4 developing country.According to GDP,China now is the 3/4 in the top ranking because of the huge base of the population,however,it is still a developing country.Perhaps Russia could be treated as the lower group in the developed countries because it only focuses on heavy industry but not economic in the past 30 years.The average income is not high,but consumer prodects there are very expensive because most of them depend on importing.

I have to mention here is Russia always spends a lot of money on researching new weapons,and lacks of building up infrastructure.That's why they only have lousy broadband service,but have high-tech tanks and battleplanes.

Oh my, I've forgotten to read the Developing country @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

By the way, TM NGN project actually not really outdated, base on their report. TMNet NGN delivery was reported following the schedule. If I'm not wrong...

I can't seem to understand what you're trying to get across.

But anyways, it is because of your "If you want to compare msia to developed country, don't live in msia" type of attitude that msia lags behind so many developing countries today. Do you know what's our problem? We always, and dare only to compare our country to LESS DEVELOPED countries in hopes that we will appear "better" than them. Surely, shitmix maybe better than some v.25 connection in somalia. Perhaps only by comparing us to an inferior country do we feel less inferior and more contended?

Mr. Pengiranijam, this is what experts call Inferiority Complex.

While citizens in china are busy envying the US for their technological advancement, we, on the contrary, are busy comparing ourselves to undernourished countries and feeling uber happy that we are not as bad as them. See the difference? If every single malaysian thinks the same way as you, future development here would not be possible. No one bothers! We are better than some pirate-laden somalia!

About TIME and JARING. You cannot compare their performance just by looking at round trip time alone and sustainable bandwidth only. Which destination are you comparing the RTT with? Some routes may be faster than others at certain time of the day so it may not be an "isp-thing".

Again, we in Sarawak HAVE NO CHOICE. Stop your blatant insult about choices here because i feel extremely insulted as a fellow malaysian.

Not you only the one don't have choice, most of Malaysian. It is not blatant, it is about choice, it is your choice to use or don't use the services if you don't like or hate the services that much, remember you should blame TMNet not me okay , if you want everything perfect ready for you only, you should forget that. We are still far away for being developed country, and if I have million RM, I will not invest to the rush company like TMNet, I will definitely go for own business for my own profits.

Well you should stick with thread title, TS are comparing TMNet and other ISP. Why should comparing...? I don't think it is good idea. You should blame TS instead me...

+1 for calling him out.

Its bout time someone did that to the bs he's been spouting around on this subforum.

TS is comparing Malaysia to other developing countries in the region; Indonesia/Phillipines. Just because of this comparison to these 2 countries (who by the way have a LOT more problems than us with war and natural disasters) you are telling the TS not to compare Malaysia with Japan?

So, if a person NEEDS internet for work... and he has a choice to either NOT have internet or use Streamyx? Doesn't sound like much of a choice to me.

Something like... if person X were to point a gun at person Y... and say, "Hey, you have a choice... you can run and I can shoot you... or... you can stay and I can shoot you!!!". My analogy is as good as your illusion of choice.

This post has been edited by biatch0: Jun 29 2009, 08:15 PM