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News TM NGN Project Is Outdated, Indo, Ph, Thailand 2 Years Ahead Of Us

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post Jun 25 2009, 10:37 PM

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For your information, TM begin NGN since 2006 and FFTH since 2007
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post Jun 25 2009, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(cameltoe @ Jun 25 2009, 10:51 PM)
Begin?

Indonesia's Biznet had commercially launch it back in 2007.
Thailand's Phuket NGN FTTH trials is already running

Admit it your RM11billion project is already an outdated technology used since 2-3 years ago.
Japan already implemented 1gbps FTTH 3 years ago.

Nothing to be proud of. In SEA region besides Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines has NGN projects on a larger scale or just as ambitious as yours.
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Yes,

Don't compare developed country like Japan.

Ambitious? I'm not working for TMNet or any affiliate.

So you think all of them getting same speed? Open your eyes, some developed country in EU still getting slow speed and all that.

I proud to be Malaysian.
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post Jun 26 2009, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Jun 26 2009, 12:22 PM)
AFAIK, Jaring rely on TM's backbone too.
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Because if we don't contact each other, like TMNet and Jaring, you can't reach some Jaring server and hosted under Jaring...

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post Jun 28 2009, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 28 2009, 09:08 AM)
U suck dude. You dont even know Malaysia broadband is one of the worst service and speed? U paid rm88 for 1mbps + suck service. In other country, u can get much better speed and service with lower price. I am proud to be malaysian, but shame to have Tmnet.
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Lolz, why you blame me for TMNet problem, should them lolz. I have paid RM88 but I can reach more than 1Mb/sec daily. And why you choose TMNet if you know they are bad, choose other lolz, like Jaring or TIME. C'mon... doh.gif

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post Jun 28 2009, 12:24 PM

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Maybe something stuck for doing things, thats why the madness cant controlled. Leave it...

Of course you have choice, if you want developed country to compare us, don't live here in Malaysia.

TMNet have blocking us for somewhat, but better than nothing, you still can P2P, in other country cannot do that.

biatch0, TMNet not controlling TIME or Jaring speed and bandwidth, they have leased line to connect overseas, even their pings and speed better than TMNet. So, you have choice, to choose or not. It's your own decision...
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post Jun 28 2009, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(biatch0 @ Jun 28 2009, 08:13 PM)
You seem to have comprehension issues so let me lay it out for you. From a wired perspective in 90% of Malaysia you do NOT have a choice of ISP. Obviously if you were living in Malaysia and not under a magic rock in that magical developed country in Europe that has a lower standard of internet than us you would already know that.

It's like if I tell you that you are sentenced to death for commiting a crime but you can survive if the rope the hangman is going to use snaps. Does this imply choice on your part? Continue to argue your stand that TM is the poor victim in our country and I'll yield and admit you're just that dense.
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I don't pick a fight or what, relax. No point to compare other country ISP (that were developed country), all we need is to do something why TMNet are outdated.

Of course I'm living at Malaysia, we still lucky bro biatch0, in Russia, my cousin stay at one of the university there and access the internet just no more than 24kb/sec and sometimes unstable, thats even worst for developed country, to compare us we still developing country, and we still can access such protected content and can P2P without worries that much. Don't compare different story biatch0, we talk about internet and not committing crime. Maybe I dense, but, I'm not that bad. Well, you already know their trick (you already know for years I believe), you still have the choice la bro, use their service or not, thats your choice (your power as end user), TMNet not forcibly you to use their service. blush.gif

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post Jun 29 2009, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(biatch0 @ Jun 29 2009, 02:02 AM)
I'm merely looking at your posts and replying to them.

You were the one who brought up the topic of developed countries in Europe getting slow speeds.

You also talked about "choosing" TMNet like there was really much of a choice.

Also, according to the World Economic Outlook Report, April 2009 by the International Monetary Fund, Russia is NOT a developed country.

Why choose Russia when Malaysia can barely keep up with developing countries in our own region? Interesting considering Malaysia is the only one that keeps going on the news saying they want to be the next big IT hub worldwide.
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Well, if you read your post before, I think you speak to wrong person, the TS are the person comparing us with outsider ISP.

As I said before, if you understand what meaning of choice, it is very common to answer, if you don't like don't use their service... thats what the choice.

Are you sure bro biatch0, Russia is developing country? Based on GDP, Russia is no.8 and if you refer @ http://english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/...2004/6591-gdp-0 is one of developed country thus if I'm not wrong Russian are the biggest food exporter. whistling.gif


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post Jun 29 2009, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(liciece @ Jun 29 2009, 11:41 AM)
Hi,
From my knowlege,Russia is a member of BRIC(Brazil,Russia,India,China) which are the combination of the greatest 4 developing country.According to GDP,China now is the 3/4 in the top ranking because of the huge base of the population,however,it is still a developing country.Perhaps Russia could be treated as  the lower group in the developed countries because it only focuses on heavy industry but not economic in the past 30 years.The average income is not high,but consumer prodects there are very expensive because most of them depend on importing.

I have to mention here is Russia always spends a lot of money on researching new weapons,and lacks of building up infrastructure.That's why they only have lousy broadband service,but have high-tech tanks and battleplanes. smile.gif
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Oh my, I've forgotten to read the Developing country @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

By the way, TM NGN project actually not really outdated, base on their report. TMNet NGN delivery was reported following the schedule. If I'm not wrong...

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post Jun 29 2009, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(sennheiser @ Jun 29 2009, 12:30 PM)
I can't seem to understand what you're trying to get across.

But anyways, it is because of your "If you want to compare msia to developed country, don't live in msia" type of attitude that msia lags behind so many developing countries today. Do you know what's our problem? We always, and dare only to compare our country to LESS DEVELOPED countries in hopes that we will appear "better" than them. Surely, shitmix maybe better than some v.25 connection in somalia. Perhaps only by comparing us to an inferior country do we feel less inferior and more contended?

Mr. Pengiranijam, this is what experts call Inferiority Complex.

While citizens in china are busy envying the US for their technological advancement, we, on the contrary, are busy comparing ourselves to undernourished countries and feeling uber happy that we are not as bad as them. See the difference? If every single malaysian thinks the same way as you, future development here would not be possible. No one bothers! We are better than some pirate-laden somalia!

About TIME and JARING. You cannot compare their performance just by looking at round trip time alone and sustainable bandwidth only. Which destination are you comparing the RTT with? Some routes may be faster than others at certain time of the day so it may not be an "isp-thing".

Again, we in Sarawak HAVE NO CHOICE. Stop your blatant insult about choices here because i feel extremely insulted as a fellow malaysian.
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Not you only the one don't have choice, most of Malaysian. It is not blatant, it is about choice, it is your choice to use or don't use the services if you don't like or hate the services that much, remember you should blame TMNet not me okay icon_rolleyes.gif, if you want everything perfect ready for you only, you should forget that. We are still far away for being developed country, and if I have million RM, I will not invest to the rush company like TMNet, I will definitely go for own business for my own profits.

Well you should stick with thread title, TS are comparing TMNet and other ISP. Why should comparing...? I don't think it is good idea. You should blame TS instead me... doh.gif blush.gif

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post Jun 29 2009, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(ahpek26 @ Jun 29 2009, 09:28 PM)
I LoLed. You believe what there're saying, without question whatsoever? Believe in the same company that provides us with this crappy service?

Come on dude, you've got to use your brain a little bit. They won't even announce any downtime of their service in their website UNLESS its important, then how can you even remotely believe what there're saying, jeez.

Take for example the terengganu stadium, all done, complete and officially lunch. Less than a year, boom, go down, L..o...L. Perhaps you should stop watching, listening and agreeing to the mainstream media, because they won't tell you what the "G" doesn't want you to know.

I agree with sennheiser, sometimes the only choice we have, is either crap (streamyx) or nothing. So your saying I should choose nothing because streamyx sucks? You can tell me "we have other isp bla bla" but I live near KL and let me tell you, besides the wireless isp and streamyx, theres nothing here shakehead.gif

PS: Not trying to gang up on you, just trying to make a point thats all sweat.gif
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Oh, so you think I believe what they say, I have brain, thats what they say not me... and again, if you want perfect, you should forget. Remind you again, you have choices, if you don't like and hate so much their services (TMNet), leave and don't subscribe. Relax la, garang juga ko nih...

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post Jun 29 2009, 09:59 PM

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Sorry if all of you guys might think I'm insulting in any way, I don't mean to do that... notworthy.gif
I respect all of your feedback anyway, all we need is our right. As consumer, we have full right to use their services (TMNet), and if the services does not meet the at least speed or other problem related to TMNet fault, you have right to complain to MCMC...

QUOTE(ahpek26 @ Jun 29 2009, 09:48 PM)
Keke nah jk jk smile.gif . Oh fun fact, just browse thailand's forum regarding their isp, sadly its just as bad as we are. The same case, first month/week/whatever its smooth sailing, later crap hole lol. Same crappy CS, routing, bandwidth issue, downtime, its just reading LYN forum, except its not biggrin.gif . Anyhow here it is.

Package 3Mbps (or whatever) for local only, international bandwidth can't even reach 1Mbps sweat.gif .
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Hehe... brows.gif

So Bangkok also facing slow internet and all that, thus their 3Mb even bad than us not reach 1Mb... duh doh.gif

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