I didnt read thru everything especially the long post on the back and fro among you guys but im generally on ur side. As for your friend over there, he's not all not all wrong, he knows how to question and what to question, be he doesnt know what it takes to prove something if its true, so all he knows is just question everything, so you could never prove sth to somebody like this. I bet he only knew the few doctors that he mentioned and only them. Funny thing is he questions everything but he still believes luc montagnier regardless of what he said without all the questioning process he took for everything else. My best guess is because what the nobel prize winner said matches what he believes deep down, so he is not that open like how he described he is at all. Im surprised you wasted so much of ur time explaining. Well it is a free country and it is a free world, we alow all kinds of people to exist as long as they dont hurt anybody else, so lets just let natural selection take him.