since Netherlands vs Spain so the orange will be home team and wear it first kit (orange), i think Spain will wear blue because orange and red seem similar

Pics of the Queen meeting the players in the dressing room...and look how cool Puyol was. Did the Queen love it?

http://conlaroja.wordpress.com/2010/07/08/...om/#comment-749

having second thought

This post has been edited by uNeVErwaLkaloNe: Jul 9 2010, 12:20 AM

LoL at the argument before... I think pedro was the key to the massive possesion we had, did we have that before when torres played? no.
But torres provides a post-player which no one else in the team except llorente could..which is why spain's passing all ended up in smoke in the 1st half, barring puyol's header that went high and PEDRO's assist to villa.. still, i'd rather not see torres starting cause its obvious he's not fit at all..
In the 2nd half, pedro started cutting in and caused all sorts of trouble to the german defense but xabi shot wide on a couple occasions..but at least this meant penetration, not the 1st half we saw that had no end product..
I think he did great but matyr was right, silva could've been the better choice but pedro basically justified vdb's decision IMO..
I know late on he did flunk that chance with torres to his left.. yes he was selfish and its horrible but you cant just dismiss all the goodwork he put in before just because of a moment of silliness, can you?

I watched the game again last night. I can single out 2 highlights of Pedro's contribution. First around 21 minutes, when he broke down a German counterattack, 2nd on 48th minute when he pulled around 3 German defenders to the right flank, creating space and setting up Alonso for a long shot. Why no credit for these? Why highlight his miss only?

Also I've heard people putting the blame on Navas earlier in the tournament. Why don't they just think 'well this is his first major international tourney in foreign country, and he had that severe anxiety problem before' as an excuse for him?

Why people keep finding excuse (injury etc etc) for Torres while in fact he never impressed in Spain shirt in the last 2-3 years? Just accept the fact that he can't fit in well enough, and he has much to learn to do so. And stop being bias.

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Added on July 9, 2010, 8:57 amSid Lowe wrote about Spanish's finest moments, and the role the Basque and Catalans played. His pieces are always pleasure to read

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/fifaworldc...-for-spain.html

This post has been edited by matyrze: Jul 9 2010, 08:57 AM

this argument is getting ridiculous,,he made mistakes pedro but again who isnt,,torres also known for his selfishness other than his scoring rates,,.all this blaming occurred when spain needs to score the 2nd goals to kill the game off.. but after looking back, the german hardly tested casillas or open the spanish tight defense, if they ever going to score most probably due to defending error...over all this i think without doubt spain best game so far in wc, hope they will repeat the same level of performance in the final..will pedro be given another chance? i hope so..

so confirm spain gonna wear blue?

No matter which colour, Spain gonna win this year WC.

VDB should have make a new version of the barca gladiator video to motivate the player, no just Arbeloa go and download a video from youtube, the world cup final deserve better production value in motivational video :


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...onal-video.html

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup...?urn=sow,254760

why so serious about the kit
i guess u have both Spain jersey and want wear the same color Spain wear that night
just choose blue one

spain win 2010 world cup!!!!

This is a fantastic article about Spain and their style
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/socc...inal/index.html

People have been saying this Spain side is boring but they don't understand that for football to be a spectacle both teams have to share that responsibility. And every team that has faced Spain so far have been far more interested in stopping Spain from playing than creating a spectacle.

I've heard that one. I think the noise are mostly coming from England right?

maybe more coming from people that only watch EPL and think the best football are the EPL style.

If Catalunya and Basque country secede from RFEF, which team will you guys support? They tried to join UEFA under the excuse that Scotland and Wales are allowed to play in UEFA and FIFA sanctioned match. But they always get vetoed by RFEF.

but they are still part of spain, and spain is fielding a team in FIFA match, wales and scotland are different because there is no UK team, and wales and scotland are countries, catalonia are not a country at least not yet.

i will support Catalan for sure, they able to qualify to the World Cup with current team

as i remember this players already play for Catalan
Victor Valdes
Joan Capdevila
Gerard Pique
Carles Puyol
Sergio Busquets
Xavi Hernandez
Bojan Krkic

wat time is the closing ceremony?

They very well could qualify for the WC. But getting close to winning it on the other hand I doubt it.

But it's all pointless debate really. Catalunya is not a country and FIFA will never sanction it. Allowing the different regions to be self autonomous seems to suit Spain and the Spanish society as of now and I don't see that changing anytime soon.