The options that Spain has are just ridiculous. Just hope they don't get complacent.
National Team The "La Furia Roja" Spain National Team Talk, EURO 2012 WINNER--- RECORD AFTER RECORD
National Team The "La Furia Roja" Spain National Team Talk, EURO 2012 WINNER--- RECORD AFTER RECORD
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Oct 15 2009, 11:09 AM
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The options that Spain has are just ridiculous. Just hope they don't get complacent.
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May 21 2010, 12:54 PM
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No major surprises. Senna hasn't had the best of seasons this year and I'm very interested to see whether Javi Martinez can translate his club form to the international stage. It's still an awesome lineup though. Just probably thin at LB which has been the case for a long while now.
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Jun 9 2010, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 9 2010, 02:18 PM) They said it's not anything serious so he should be able to make the first game.I watched the highlights. Delightful cross with the outside of his right foot from Iniesta for the first goal. The second goal was just ridiculous. Poland were chasing shadows literally. The only concern for me is the pressure from being favourites getting to the players. Del Bosque has done well in that aspect; always playing down the tag. You need that little bit of luck for the WC. I'm hoping for the best. |
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Jun 17 2010, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 17 2010, 04:23 PM) For me, the mistake was done by replacing Busquets with Torres. I think he should replace Villa instead. The team did well by creating a many chances and openings, but Villa was ineffective, so Torres should be given the baton to lead attack. VDB should not change the whole system from 4-5-1 to 4-2-2. The later formation just forced Xavi to play deeper, and thus reduce his chance to play killer balls more often. Spain actually played better when Torres came on so to me that wasn't the mistake.Was last night game the first time you watched Spain? The mistake was actually having Busquets, Xabi and Xavi all starting in the middle. None of them made any attempt to run to support Villa in attack which left him isolated in the middle. Which made it very easy for Switzerland to defend. And forcing Xavi to play deeper is not necessarily a bad thing as he's far more comfortable playing deeper imo where he can cycle possession around. The AMC position he's playing now is far more suited for someone who's more dynamic; someone like Cesc. Either replace Xabi for Cesc or switch to 4-4-2 which was how Spain played in Euro '08. Problem is Senna isn't in the squad anymore. He used to cover so much ground by himself that he could hold the midfield together with Xavi. I doubt Busquets can offer the same. Maybe Martinez can. That said the goal conceded is a worry. Very poor decision making by the two CB's. You would think playing together in the same club they would have been done better in dealing with the situation. |
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Jun 19 2010, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 18 2010, 07:42 PM) Yeah. The Xabi-Busi-Xavi midfield is actually a bad choice. Either Iniesta or Cesc should take 1 of the places instead, while Xabi and Busi fight for the DM position depending on the opposition (against the Swiss, Xabi would be better option, as their striker are not good at closing down). But we can't blame VDB for this can we? Xabi-Busi-Xavi is the midfield system that he used during most of the qualifying campaign, and what a campaign it was. In Euro 08 the switch to 4-5-1 always involved Cesc coming in. Aragones never played 2 holding players. Now we're playing with 3 players who are more comfortable playing deeper than playing between the lines. I didn't watch the qualifying games so I won't say that I know how effective the lineup was back then but it's clearly not working now.Iniesta/Cesc-Busi/Xabi/Martinez-Xavi/Xabi Both Pique and Puyol always did that kind of mistake while playing with Barcelona, but Valdes always came to Barca's rescue. So you can't expect them to play any better with Spain For the 4-4-2 system during Euro2008, I think the system only served us in the group stage, against Russia and Sweden, and I was not particularly impressed with the team performance against Sweden. And against Italy in QF, the 4-4-2 system scored a blank. If Spain want to continue playing Xabi and Iniesta, 4-3-3/4-5-1 is the system to be employed. And that comment about Valdes, trying to imply something about Casillas? Cause I don't see how he can be blamed there. The CB's left him terribly exposed and he did manage to get to the ball only for it to be ricocheted from Pique's back. Unlucky I guess. But I'd rather see Albiol coming in seeing that Puyol isn't winning half his headers. |
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Jun 22 2010, 10:18 AM
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Much better performance. Villa and Navas staying out wide providing much needed width shows that they have learnt a lesson from the Swiss game. Navas was poor with his delivery throughout the game. I would like to see Silva back in the lineup provided he stays wide when he doesn't have the ball. Xavi made a better attempt to play further up the pitch but I still don't think it's his game there. The moment Cesc came on he offered much more threat with his runs from deep. But I see Del Bosque sticking with the same midfield against Chile. Still a very good performance overall.
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Jun 22 2010, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 22 2010, 12:41 PM) nice win and Spain become a Spain again, there is a lot thing to improve before Chile game, Navas cross always useless, i think it would be better if Cesc start in 1st 11 instead Navas, Cesc can provide more pace and we can use Ramos to do cross job, both front pair waste so many change especially Torres, he seem still cant find his form after the injury Cesc on the right wing? I'm not buying it to be honest.You can't just leave Ramos alone on the right wing because most teams would double up on him rendering him ineffective. Ramos had a good game mainly because he had Navas in front of him and he could use him as an outlet to get further forward. I personally think Silva was unfairly criticised after the Switzerland game and he should be given back his spot. |
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Jun 30 2010, 04:28 AM
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Llorente has to start the next game. Torres at this point in time is useless.
Good win nonetheless |
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Jul 8 2010, 04:25 AM
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What a game!!
Brilliant game by the team tonite! Puyol MOTM! |
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Jul 8 2010, 04:52 AM
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Jul 8 2010, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jul 8 2010, 08:05 AM) Happy that Pedro did well for Spain, though I still don't get it, why on a WC semifinal match VDB opted for Pedro rather than a much more experienced Silva? Did he see something during training? I am so sure nobody could fathom such daring move from him before the match. But he is right there I think it's because of what happened in the Switzerland game where Silva was coming inside too often and not providing enough width. But I think if he was given another chance he would do better. But on this performance Pedro deserves to start the final.QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jul 8 2010, 10:34 AM) pedro should be seriously "lectured" for his very selfish act, that was totally unacceptable..i think not selecting him for the finals will be a great lesson Just because your beloved Torres couldn't get his name on the scoresheet? |
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Jul 8 2010, 11:28 AM
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Jul 8 2010, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jul 8 2010, 02:39 PM) stop trying to be smart, i didnt mention torres in my post..pedro performances was great, i wont deny it. but a single mistake like this can be deathly, he was lucky germans couldnt score an equaliser, i bet many fans will start calling for his blood if they do. look at green, a single mistake and everybody condemn him..was pedro any better? Sheesh...go read back your post and see how ridiculous it sounds: implying he should be dropped just for that mistake And if the Germans scored an equaliser, I wouldn't be calling for Pedro's head; I'll be criticising the defending instead It's easy to criticise him but he's a young kid, and he got abit overexcited and in a way over-thought about making the pass or shooting himself. There was a defender between him and Torres so even a pass wouldn't have been that easy to pull off. If the pass was cut out he'll still be criticised. What is ironic is that Kroos' chance was an even easier one but you don't see anyone calling for his head |
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Jul 10 2010, 10:11 PM
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This is a fantastic article about Spain and their style
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/socc...inal/index.html People have been saying this Spain side is boring but they don't understand that for football to be a spectacle both teams have to share that responsibility. And every team that has faced Spain so far have been far more interested in stopping Spain from playing than creating a spectacle. |
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Jul 12 2010, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 11 2010, 11:39 PM) i will support Catalan for sure, they able to qualify to the World Cup with current team They very well could qualify for the WC. But getting close to winning it on the other hand I doubt it.as i remember this players already play for Catalan Victor Valdes Joan Capdevila Gerard Pique Carles Puyol Sergio Busquets Xavi Hernandez Bojan Krkic But it's all pointless debate really. Catalunya is not a country and FIFA will never sanction it. Allowing the different regions to be self autonomous seems to suit Spain and the Spanish society as of now and I don't see that changing anytime soon. |
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Jul 12 2010, 05:05 AM
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CAMPEONES! CAMPEONES!! OLE OLE OLE!!!
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Jul 12 2010, 05:32 AM
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Jul 12 2010, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 12 2010, 06:08 AM) yeah, separate Spain and Catalonia is a bad idea, to be world champion we need both tikitaka and San Iker`s golden hand, forget my siggy for a while, he deserve to be man of the match especially when he save one to one ball To be fair tiki taka is very much a Spanish characteristic not just Catalunya. That's why we see many La Liga teams have pretty good ball retention.San Iker's list of honours grows. Really amazing how much he's won |
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Jul 12 2010, 06:18 AM
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Jul 12 2010, 06:24 AM
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haha Iker gonna get lucky tonite
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