Teleportation - transporting object through space

With all these traffic jam, expensive car price, surging of petrol prices, risk of car accidents... would it be good if we have another means of transportation? through the air?

It would be so easy & convenient. Your work starts at 9am... u just need to get up 30 mins earlier to get prepared, then u teleport urself directly into the office.. no parking required too. How it work is that the teleport machine at point A scans and capture your DNA, structures, etc. and tries to dis-engage all these components of your body into mini-micro-nano particles... then transmit it via air or maybe a medium like copper wire or fibre optics to teleport machine at point B. At point B, the machine will try to reconstruct your body from the particles using the captured data of DNA,structures,etc.

Theoritically, it should be able to achieve.... look at Philadelphia experiment. They somehow accidentally discovered teleportation.

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However, there are some risk in teleportation... Have anyone watched 'The Fly'?

It was a fictional movie in 1986 about this scientist who created a teleportation machine. He enters machine A (a fly somehow got into the machine chamber) and when he teleported himself to machine B.... the machine thinking only 1 person is involve.. tries to reconstruct all the particles or DNA into a single form, which combines the fly's DNA and human DNA together... and made him a monstaa

So guys, do you think it is possible.. or at least.. feasible? in terms of the risk mentioned.

This post has been edited by chezzball: Jun 20 2009, 04:02 PM

the movie 'The One' (starring Jet Lee explains more about the means of teleportation. it also requires a solid object to teleport particle by particle to the acuqired destination by means of using a machine.

It's always machines, machines and machines. i wish we could just teleport like Dr. Manhattan

Problem is what if my head gets reconstructed beside my ass after teleportation

Aahah, on the side note, scientist have succesful teleported AN atom through a small space. Not clear on the details though

argh.. I didn't watch that movie ! solid object ? what if that solid object particle got 'merged' into the human body? just like the philadelphia project where the navy ppl have their body 'merged' into the ship

an atom would easy i think.. since its just transmit particle over air... just like how fibre optics transmit light..

Er what they did was transport the atom without passing through the space. A real true teleportation. Though there is a quantum phenomenon known as quantum leap, where electrons "jumps" from one orbital to another without passing through space in between. Not clear on this though, anyone more knowledgeable can clarify?

I heard before quantum leap..

if electrons really can "jump" without any medium.... imagine making a nano-robot "jump" into the black hole, or the end of the universe, or into another universe... cool LOL

reminds me of "Jumper" movie

according to Einstein most famous formula.. E=mc^2

it seem like its possible, but not now..

mebbe teleport through space is no problem

how about teleport through time? i'd really like to try tat

i think teleport through time is the same as time machine... there's no way u gonna walk to the past rite? sure u gotta "jump" or "warp" to the past right? or the future

i remember reading this too. the managed to teleport an atom but only a small space. few cm only if i never recall wrongly

Remember Doom the movie? Teleport from a planet to planet and error occurs where the butt of a person being left behind lulz

for me, i dont think it is possible, if we need to teleport, which means we have to be breakdown to atomic size and then transfer us to the other teleport machine?

then dont you think during the process or breakdown and rebuilt will be quite painful?

what if part of our atom are lag behind or fly somewhere else?

There was a news sometime ago that they teleported light IINM, sort of like a laser beam light, try googling it.

if i am not mistaken, there are malaysia people who works at autralia who able to transport the molecule of light, still remember? So i feel it is possible

i agree with this. we break down into atomic size, and the rebuilding process, what will happen to us? can it rebuild perfectly according to the one before?

it might be possible to teleport atomic size matter, but how we exactly break down our cell and tissues from starting point and then reorganize at the destination?

if structural break down of human cell is possible, then deadly cancer can be cure for sure by break down part of the body, remove the cancer cell and reorganize it.

did i think too far?

Hey, good idea. Probably a good reason to get massive.. really massive budget to do research on this.

fusing dna nanotech with traversable wormholes might result in a discovery of a serendipity.

maybe that is why people tend to stay younger when travelling at a relatively fast pace.

I remember reading something to the effect that teleportation's biggest challenge is:

1. the complexity of breaking down and reforming an object

2. the speed at which such a process can be achieved

Point 1. is already hard enough, but even if that is managed, at what speeds can we disintegrate and reconstitute an object? If teleportation is going to take longer that physical travel, then it would be pointless wouldn't it?

imagine arriving at the destination without your soul, or at least with all your circuit power down.

they should do this experiment with space shuttle instead, if they succeed, then in the future the amount of fuel need to sent a space shuttle will be greatly reduce.

it will be real cool.. imagine the shuttle in warp mode... something like startrek...

yes, really cool

but that's only possible between a specific destination, which means point A and point B must have the teleport machine, unlike the space jump where you key in the coordinate of the position you want to go then you "jump"

lets pretend that teleportation (ie breaking down and transporting particles and reconstructing them in the exact manner) is possible. how would they teleport something living?

life is not merely a collection of precisely arranged carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, etc particles. what about intangible stuff like memory, identity, etc?

therefore, the teleportation envisioned in sci-fi shall remain as they are -- fiction

flying in the air was once "fictional" too. and so did walking on the moon.

true, but this fiction require significant progress in a lot of other field to achieve. ie, you have to answer what is life and soul first. teleporting inanimate object is a more realistic (as if any of those popular sci-fi is "realistic") goals

we do have some success in pseudo-teleportation of small particles. IIRC they instantaneously created same particle at B while destroying the original at A. so you have the effect of teleportation but whether its really teleportation or not is up to debate.

Wasn't there some lab in Europe that actually was able to move one atom to another spot, it required immense amount of energy, but I read this awhile back. It was at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenahagen, Denmark. I wonder how close are they to perfecting a real live transportation. Its quite amusing how the world is trying to follow sci-fi like star trek things where they want to move objects from one place to another in a flash of a second. But all I can see in my mind is what possible can go horribly wrong. Imagine you get from one place to another but one of your body parts is back at the original spot.. creepy... but i'll probably be dead by the time they perfect it and my son's son would figure it out by then. haha

McD/PizzaHut delivery via teleportation...

go to http://www.mcd.com.my
make my order -> confirm
key in TP Add (Teleportation Protocol Address)
pay by credit card

1 minute later

Fillet-o-fish burger with extra cheese 'warped' and appears on my dining table(attached to the TP machine) and i realize my extra cheese topping is gone.. damn.. the 'cheese' particles got missing someway along the teleportation... there goes mah 50 cent..

This post has been edited by chezzball: Jun 22 2009, 12:29 PM

Haha, thats pretty cute, but what if one minute later you get the fillet o fish burger and it comes in radioactively high. Or its green in color...

Australia manage to "teleport" an atom in 2004. However the movement was so tiny (measured in nm) that scientists wondered if it was just a dislocation (term used to describe atom movement in materials engineering).

the same can be said for all other telportation "successes" up to now. The distance these atoms were so small, that we're even guessing if the move was artificial

hmm.. that would be nasty.. maybe they wanna save cost... teleported the burger and green apple soda together at the same time...

can dislocation of an object between point A and point B via a medium (air or cable) considered teleportation?

maybe we can just break the object (burger) atom into small particles of atom, and transmit it via cable to ur house... macam a modem/phone copper wire that transmit signals.

I doubt that you can just break a complicated material like a burger to a bunch of zero and ones.

Besides,even if a single atom is not in the right place,it's gonna be a problem.

yah.. maybe in terms of digitalization is not possible... maybe physically move the atoms via a medium.

I dont know much about quantum physics,but,i dont think it's that easy to do it,as matter isnt made up of zero and ones.Even if you could break up all the atoms,how would the receiver know where to put them back?

Teleport is still nothing but sci fi till now.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Jun 22 2009, 01:23 PM

a device that will capture the arrangement of the atom in sequence order. just like a data warehouse, we have x-y-z planes

teleport might be possible... check up on philadelphia experiment.. or previous posts has mentioned about the research on the atom jump.. considered teleport rite?

Thats just a single atom in a few nm which it could be a dislocation.

1 gram of carbons have 6.012 x10^23 atoms,how would the receiver know where to put them back,what orientation?

for a person like me, i dunno lol.. but those scientist out there sure have some solution or things they gonna found.... maybe can make use of nanotech?

I dont know and im not really interested in teleport.

Nanotech is just a scale of machines,thats all.It would probably benefit us more in daily life.

the answer would be cloning technique.

clone a human being. and see if it retains memory.

then teleport it. and see if it still retains memories.


plus. who said teleportation has to be disintegrating and re-assembling matter to move and object.

you can always move space itself

This post has been edited by selenium: Jun 22 2009, 05:01 PM

I believe teleportation can be achieved...however..i hope tat human will not create such machine..make travelling less fun >_< juz like shopping, now ppl more and more use online shopping...spoil the fun of shopping in a mall, lol

That would be harder isn't it? to move the space?
Moving a single entity is already hard, but you're planning to move the entire background!

then i wonder, what happen if the system when offline or the computer hang in the process? then we got half human?

Do you think they will start to teleport human before they check it a thousand time?
and i believe it will just takes a few sec to teleport. Let's say if really really unfortunetly they comp hang. I hope they have Plan B.
Actually not "hope" but they "should have"


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In order to teleport someone/something from point A to point B, it requires a super nano-tech to copy the details of the person/thing and then transport to another location.
Upon the receiver got the copy information, there must a need to compute the checksum to validate the copy.

Once the checksum is validated, the person/thing can be reconstruct at point B without any issue.
If there is a system failure, then it's sayonara to that person/thing or stored in the memory...

Now, this is interesting... if the transporter can copy the details of the person/thing, then the information is definitely store in a memory in order to bring to point B. Therefore the system can copy one/many person/thing out of thin air...

It's impossible to teleport through reconstruction method. A better solution is to use wormhole technique. By using massive energy, we tear apart the space, create the wormhole, walk across it.

Another method is through time traveling. Say we want to go to US, which is 12 hours journey. When we arrive, all we need to do is to time-travel back 12 hours so we virtually arrived the moment we leave Malaysia! To another person, it's like we teleported. But it fact, we did normal traveling and time travelling. The cons is that we grow old faster.

Combine both, wormhole (space) and time manipulation, we get teleportation. No need for headache of missing butt, cloning, scanning, checksum, etc.

This post has been edited by Aurora: Jun 29 2009, 06:15 PM

every time you teleport you will destroy your original copy, that is basically being killed

This post has been edited by robertngo: Jun 29 2009, 09:16 PM

Well, in my thoughts, teleportation can exists in 2 ways.
1st, like you guys mentioned up there. you scan your body's molecule structure, make a copy out of it, break it into molecule form and transport to another place and reconstruct everything.

This method may actually worked but it contained some risks that you may get trapped, biologically imperfect after the reconstructing and other reasons which you guys can actually imagine of.

As for my concept, perhaps there is a dimension which is in parallel timeline with us. We kinda access through the dimension which will shorten the distance between the entrance and the exit of the dimension.
Just like some movies where those spaceships can access through the universe in a dimension providing enough speed.

Well, its just my 2cents. Hope anyone who understand my concept will help me to elaborate more about the science behind it. And of course i would love to see teleportation is actually possible before i passed away.

Cheers.

body deconstruction and construction is 1 matter. body function is another. will the body remain functioning on arrival, assuming that all parts are correctly attached?

the human body operates not only on chemicals, the heart is powered by pacemakers which act on polarization and depolarization, in other words, miniscule electrical activity. as with neurons.

so, how is it gona work? will the electrical functions still function upon arrival, if so is the electrical signals transported along? will the body get confused or "mixed signals" after transportation? or will we just arrive dead?

Not exactly, quantum teleportation work by principle of entanglement. There are 3 point with 1 point of origin and 1 point of destination. Between them they are a point which sort of link both of them together, this is call entanglement. Any change in point of origin will reflect on point of destination. So as a result, you won't have a ass missing when transferring because the change is occur instantaneously through the entanglement.

However, currently teleportation still prove to be impossible because our understanding of how quantum theory truly works and to transfer an atom require lot of energy. Imagine we transfer a human with million or even billion of atom, the require energy will be massive.

This is my understanding about quantum teleportation. Go google it there are lot of such subject in internet.

I think that the answer, fibre optics transmit light, then light transmit atom by atom of solid particle object. My physics teacher said "Light exists in tiny "packets" called photons ". Einstein's hypothesis that light itself is quantized; the quanta of light are photons.

But with teleportation machines, you can teleport to NewYork/Paris/HongKong/Taipei in the matter of seconds to shop and teleport back when you are done shoppin . I know alot of girls who shop around malls during the day and shop online at night

only spirit can teleport , first we need to die in our physical.

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There is small scale project had been done on transportation subject. They only manage to teleport small quantum of light. Nevertheless, more test has to be conducted with more budget to invest. If human was teleported, the body had to be separated into small part (not sure how smaller is it micropart hehe) and will travel through another space. Upon destination, the whole part of pcs will be assembled together. You know if they calculate wrongly, the body would assemble in wrong manner. Just image the head become upside down.

Almost sounds like we're being cloned... sounds really screwy...

Yes, and since the clone has the memory of the original copy, thinks he is the original copy, and everyone thinks the experiment was a success...when the original has already been vaporized...

freeze the human, electrocute until nothing left,, like what einstein said, energy cannot be destroyed but having their form transformed(like burning an item turns to light, heat and energy)...so solid(after freezed) --> light (both carries atom) using electrocution until nothing is left from top to bottom, in serial. when transferred using optic fiber with super lossless medium so no energy is lost.. At the other side using the + - charge to pull each and every atom in its order with heat to combine them before unfreeze... this is not the same as cloned, but having their form evaporized,transferred and reassemblied.
hope he's still alive.. XD

memory is just a sequence of connected nuerons(like hard drives do), memory identity will stay intact as long as 100% is arranged correctly (includes sub atmoic particles)

I think the method of disassembling and reassembling is not wise enough. Instead, link teleport with dimensional is a better choice.

For example, in 2nd dimensional, if 1 object suddenly invades into 3rd dimensional and go back to 2 dimensional, it will like teleportation as 2nd dimensional only a flat surface where 2nd dimensional organism only can see the 2 touch point of 2nd and 3rd dimensional.

Hence, if we, human, can go to 4th dimensional and come back 3rd dimensional, then it is equally teleportation. I believe this is also something related to black hole(wormhole)

It is also more safe if things went wrong. We will stuck at other dimension or even between parallel timeline or space or dimension but at least not die of disassembling.

This post has been edited by Ivangile: Jul 20 2009, 04:14 PM

Well, provided that those "dimension" really can accomodate and sustain human life. Maybe those dimensions are the real "netherworld" or worse.... a void itself. its still death per se (a half glass empty thinking) ... or an eternity of entrapment (a half full thinking, with hope of being saved by fellow humans)

We are fed with too much sci-fi movies that shows the concept of dimension as alternate equivalent of us, but just in different "layers" or "copies", existing in the same timeline. some potrays dimensions as alien world/universe. If the teleportation screwed up, i definitely wont want to end up in their world, dying from their "poisonous" atmosphere (either that, or I'll die choking from their native food they offered LOL)

LOL, how messed up is that... the clone has the memory of the original copy and then one day something goes wrong and realizes he was the clone and both are dead. lol

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Added on July 22, 2009, 3:43 pmLOL, how messed up is that... the clone has the memory of the original copy and then one day something goes wrong and realizes he was the clone and both are dead. lol

This post has been edited by rainpocky: Jul 22 2009, 03:43 PM