In the middle of the night, you were sound asleep.. Suddenly the vase fell from the table and broke into pieces LOUDLY... you were shocked and woke up thinking it's just the wind.. then you continue to sleep. Ok long story cut short, u know what i mean.

Explanation

Poltergeist denotes an invisible spirit or ghost that manifests itself by moving and influencing objects, generally in a particular location such as a house or room or place within a house. Poltergeists have been reported in many cultures. Each has its own name for the phenomenon, while the features of the phenomenon are the same everywhere (rapping noises, object movement etc). This does not prove that the phenomenon is real however, but rather that it is a common experience and may be due to a common psychosis. Places that poltergeists have been reported include India (where they are known as a Mumai), the United States, England, Japan and Brazil.

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Is there such thing or not? If there is, do you think it's a natural phenomenon to have poltergeist happening (objects would suddenly drop) or actually a ghost or spirit really does exist and they are making all these mess?

Sometime something will just happpen somewhere out of nowhere....

This post has been edited by chezzball: Jun 20 2009, 03:53 PM

We can just term it as unseen forces. Well, literally in fact. A stray flux in the magnetic field which resonates with a particular object causing it to vibrate or move.

Its hardly to move an object like sofa or close the door or window. If u want to use the 'unseen forces', u need to think where does the 'unseen forces' come from? For me, its the spirit.

My religious friend believes that things such as poltergeists/ghosts are actually Satan's demons.
They can appear in any form possible.

As a skeptic, all I can say with confidence is that when one considers the requirements for a ghost story to be true, the most reasonable position is that there is a naturalistic explanation for all these stories, but we often do not or cannot have all the details necessary to provide that explanation. We must rely on anecdotal evidence, which is always incomplete and selective, and which is often passed on by interested, inexperienced, superstitious parties who are ignorant of basic physical laws. Thus, there will always be stories like the "Bell Witch" story that attract much attention, especially when made into movies, that will lead many people to think that maybe there is something to this one, even if all the other ghost stories are false. The "Bell Witch" is alleged to be "a sinister entity that tormented a family on Tennessee’s frontier between the years of 1817 and 1821."* The likelihood that we don't have all the evidence in this case is proportionate to the number of years that have passed since the events allegedly took place.

http://www.skepdic.com/poltergeist.html

is this even empirically debatable? usually anything that cant be explained by science, it is thus categorized under a different belief system, namely religion.

so is this the right place for this sort of discussion? im quite skeptical.

Yet to be explained. Emphasis on YET. Hypothesis on this based on existence of different dimension beyond the 4th is the closest so far.

We should not attribute all supernatural to the "wonders" of religion and whatever "supreme being" that may come with the hype.

science is a self correcting system. before it gets to explain the "wonders" of religion in a testable and experimental manner, lets us embrace the beauty of the devine "god". enjoy it while it lasts

As usual when these topics arise, 1 question will be raised: Does it really exist?

You'll get fair share of people supporting both sides. Some people including myself chosed to believe (not 100%) when you actually experience these stuff and couldn't find any other means to explain it.

Mine was just a single encounter however I have 2 friends who have those "yin yang" eyes which is what chinese calls it. They see it all the time, everywhere. How do you explain that? Maybe related to "the string theory" ? They have better access to the other dimensions?

Your friend need to see optician??? hahahahaha... just kidding...
hmmmm.., does other culture besides Chinese are able to see ghost?

Some say because their "eye level" drop to a certain level whereby they can see it like you just mention. What did you see back then?

The unseen force is there to be proven.. I myself believe they exist.. It is down to whether it wanted to be seen or not only.. Certain people cant c it but they can felt it.. some can see it thus felt it.. v human, when v die, where do v go? Is there any spirit or soul left in us? Dont jus plant the thought of dead people go to either hell or heaven.. V bound to left some sort of spirit or unseen force behind when v left tis world when v r dead.. No 1 can prove it as no 1 dead can be come bac alive to tell u so.. Unless u r talking bout medium conversation..

do cows and chickens have souls?what happen to them after we slaughter thousands of them everyday for our consumption?

They might or might not.. U cant deny they dont exist jus becos u dont know or dont believe right? And at the end of the day it is down to u to believe.. Human r always in denial unless they c it for themselve..cant be blame..

It doesn't take a Chinese only to see unidentified objects.

Thanks for the reminder.
Can you specify other cultures that have relation on these paranormal event?

I heard once that most of the movie show that we see are really what the people whom have the third eyes can see...

i too had experiences such as these ..
but sometimes i wonder is there any scientific explanation behind these ? cos i dowan to go back to ghost all the time ..

Ghosts exist alright.

But they exist nothing more than the greatest ghost that resides within ourselves.

Fear.

Our natural, inborn trait of fear of the unknown.

So I've believed that ghosts do not exist as a separate entity from us.

It is INSIDE of us. A more "scientific" explanation is that ghosts are merely manifestations of our minds, that was bring forth by our own insecurities, and fear.

And when fear and insecurity takes over...

That's when you get admitted to a mental hospital, claiming to see ghosts and spirits.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jul 7 2009, 01:50 AM

Don't be afraid and this what Chinese will do. Next time if you have such encounter, go down on your knees and beg/ask for 4D or Toto numbers.


This post has been edited by segamatboy: Jul 7 2009, 02:58 AM

Nice one xD.... , I experience once, in National Service.... It was on a Sunday afternoon when I was washing my cloths in Bravo's Toilet alone, i was busy Sms~ing my frens then I saw 1 of the pail moves just abit ( i thought it was my imagination ) when i look at my phone again, i saw some text " u mahu mati, ........................ * for a just a split second before i can finish readng the whole sentence... i straight ran to the basketball field >.<.... leaving my laundry behind