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QUOTE(chtan @ Sep 9 2009, 04:29 PM) There are two model available, one from Samsung running at 120hz, 2233RZ and the other one Viewsonic VX2265wm. They are 3D ready. Unfortunately, both also support only supports 1680x1050. Most likely bandwidth limitation will limit it to DL-DVI or Display port input only (and probably HDMI 1.3) |
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Sep 12 2009, 11:02 AM
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My U2410 arriving soon.... first time playing with "Display Port" if it comes with the cable.....
Added on September 12, 2009, 11:23 amarrived.... Rev. A00... made in China comes with DP, DVI, VGA and USB cables.... a very unique way of displaying the serial/rev No. (a retractable plastic tab behind the card reader) Quite heavy (without the stand)... similiar/equal to the previous ultra 24" This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 12 2009, 11:34 AM |
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Sep 13 2009, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE(Man On Fire @ Sep 13 2009, 02:58 AM) hye guys...i'm kinda noob here. need abit of help.. Full HD... any monitor with 1920x1080. res or more. Most if not all will have HDCP support through their DVI/HDMI input, even with a monitor without HDMI, you'll just need a DVI to HDMI adapter or cable to connect to your consoles....i'm picking an LCD monitor for my new rig... i'm looking for 24" monitor with true Full HD (not HD Ready)... budget is around RM800 or less... i have some options but kinda dunno which to pick...so, hopefully can recommend me which of these is the best:- Asus 2434PW AOC 2434PW Samsung 2494HS Viewsonic VX2433WM (models are taken from Pc zone pricelist).. em..one noob questions..i noticed all have HDMI so, are they true full hd?? i tot HDMI is for game console or sumthing... done little check on some models website, some mention full hd..some only say can watch hd movie...some only mention hdmi.....so, thats really confusing me..hehe.. hope anybody can help... All the monitors you mentioned are using very similiar (or same) TN panels (possibly by the same manufacturer), its all down to electronics/functionality of the monitors (and price) This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 13 2009, 03:14 AM |
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Sep 13 2009, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(vaan321 @ Sep 13 2009, 08:31 AM) hello, i'm new here...i would like to buy a hdmi/hdcp compatible 23" and above 1080p lcd monitor... Dell.com.mybut i'm staying at ipoh... i read a lot of the post here said AOC 2434pw is quite nice... so i wonder if anyone here can suggest me where to buy a hdmi/hdcp compatible 23" and above 1080p lcd monitor(budget RM750) here in ipoh, thx  |
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Sep 13 2009, 02:17 PM
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A bit old news... but looks like my next card will be ATI and some more cheaper 24" with DP inputs..
QUOTE With the new ATI cards.... multi-monitor heaven, but may require Display Port monitors (or with DP to DVI adapters)... 6 monitors with one GPU. 24.5million pixels... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Sources... http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3635 http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/09/...nity_technology http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum...t=16780&start=0 This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 13 2009, 02:20 PM |
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Sep 14 2009, 06:52 AM
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Played with my new U2410 a little.... My first IPS (or is it 2nd), No dead pixels, No pinkish whites (seen on some CCFL IPS), Very good viewing angels, Bezel very slightly bigger/thicker than previous 24" ultra(s)
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Sep 14 2009, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(Faint @ Sep 14 2009, 10:07 AM) Mind tell me what will you do with this 3 monitor ? With the new Direct X 11 ATI card... This is very possible for some consumers... one of the gaming uses of 3x1 setup...  with Dells too....valent just needs 3 more..  This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 14 2009, 10:57 AM |
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Sep 14 2009, 09:10 PM
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2209WA is CCFL too (So, is U2410, to my disappointment, LED IPS 24" still in the realm of more than RM3000, Billion colours, 12bit LUT, with LED it would have been perfect at the selling price)...
U2410... love the static touch controls, too bright CCFL, especially at night... This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 14 2009, 09:17 PM |
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Sep 17 2009, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Sep 17 2009, 12:02 AM) Anyone have Dell U2410 ? reviews ? There are a few reviews out/publish online. All positives. H-IPS, fast pixel response, Minimal lag (arount 10 to 20ms), excellent colour reproduction, each panel calibrated before leaving factory (with documentation). Wide colour gamut without saturating colours. Potentially a panel which is more than 8bit of shades per sub-pixel (A 10-bit panel, with 1.07 Billions of colours, instead 16.7 mil.) Nice touch sensitive buttons. Switching inputs require more effort than single button push of previous 24" ultras. There is a slight delay in powering up after switching on (about 5 sec) About 2 sec delay from waking up from display power safe mode. Mine has no dead/stuck pixels. This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 17 2009, 03:56 AM |
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Sep 17 2009, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(engseng @ Sep 17 2009, 01:38 PM) Does your monitor have: no... and- any flickering problems? - noisy when the brightness is set below a certain level? no... my brightness is at 15/100... some people are reporting some dithering errors/blotches with Adobe RGB mode/RGB mode, will test it out.. |
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Sep 17 2009, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(PCHo @ Sep 17 2009, 05:39 PM) Guys....have u guys seen, bought or used an adapter/converter for DVI/VGA ---> Composite? A powered signal decoder box.. would not be cheap.... downgrading of resolution and quality Added on September 17, 2009, 5:56 pm QUOTE(PCHo @ Sep 17 2009, 05:39 PM) Edit: Used for PSP. PSP slim can output 720p component video .... PSP (original) can output VGA through hacking/soldering... This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 17 2009, 05:56 PM |
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Sep 18 2009, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Sep 18 2009, 11:01 AM) Hi bros, i would like to ask one thing for Viewsonic VX2025wm user. My friend VX2025, the DVI cable recently cant produce signal output to lcd frame. just black. But when i change to VGA cable, then only got output. is the DVI cable rosak or DVI panel rosak? Trial and error... elimination gamethx in advance Switching/Getting another DVI cable being the cheapest solution... If not the switch the GC or LCD.. or test-out on another system (like yours) |
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Sep 24 2009, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 24 2009, 01:45 AM) ..... Only with 10-bit panels and 10-bit (or more) GCs or Video output.It is better to go for HDMI equipped LCD monitors, simply because you'd want to take advantage of the Deep Color feature for PS3 games and movies. |
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Sep 24 2009, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(maggot05 @ Sep 24 2009, 08:43 AM) i wanna go ahead n get 50000:1 n i prefer if i get 2ms response time as compared to 5ms.... also i prefer 23" to a 21.5" 2 points. At least a 1080p (1920x1080 panel) with HDMI/DVI inputs (even better with DP, future proof). All the rest are just added gravy/preference.now what i am asking is if this 50000:1 n 2ms makes a lot of difference as compared to the other .... and what about the size difference ? does that also make a high difference ? the other main thing is the hdmi... 2buy or not 2buy is the question.. i dont even know whats the main purpose of it ... i dont have a ps. i have xboz n wii at home but they are not mine. my purpose of getting monitor is for my new pc... so is hdmi necessary cuz as far as i know pc connects to the normal old fashion slot. unless ofcourse i can connect to pc using an hdmi cable and it really makes a diference to the video quality also which company... aoc, acer, lg, samsung..... if there is one that i should not buy cuz its a bad company then let me know thanks |
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Sep 24 2009, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(chtan @ Sep 24 2009, 11:46 AM) As i have explained earlier 2ms and 5ms is of no different at all cause your LCD only update at 59hz/60hz. And 2 ms in lcd is always bullshit, they use overdrive (cheating) to achieve this..... Not really.... there are at least 2 TN panels monitors (like, Samsung 2233RZ) that goes to true 120Hz refresh rates.... thus requiring DL-DVI bandwidth.b.t.w. a true 120Hz panel only requires a full pixel response of only 8.33 ms. A 5ms GtG panel may be still too slow for a true 120Hz panel (Full pixel response, BTWTB, may exceed 8.33ms). |
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Sep 24 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(chtan @ Sep 24 2009, 03:03 PM) Basically, 2ms you need 500hz refresh rate screen. 5ms required 200hz. So, do you think 120hz is fast enough to show the different? Think again. GTG rating being adverstised does not correlate with refresh rate that way. When buying LCD, what you should be aware of is it's display lag/delay not respond time. As long as it is anything above 8ms, there shouldn't be any different. 2ms or 5ms GTG hardly qualifies for a full pixel twist and back (which is roughly 2x the GTG rating).. Only TN with 2ms GTG (and roughly @ 5ms BTWTB) is sufficiently fast enough for a true 120Hz, a requirement for nvidia's 3d in which each eye is blocked 60 x/s (60Hz) intermittently. A 5ms GTG panel with roughly 10ms BTWTB full pixel twisting is not fast enough at 120Hz. Delay ... it is the time required for the monitor to process the signal before output... say compared to a CRT. Both CRTs and LCDs have delays.. but even the best quality LCD may have an average 20 to 30ms longer delay than CRTs. The fastest panels (without much processing) may have an average delay in the teens ms (exp: 10 to 15ms), at times the delay is even at 0ms. This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 24 2009, 03:59 PM |
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Sep 24 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(chtan @ Sep 24 2009, 04:07 PM) So, at the end with 120hz lcd, you shouldn't notice any differences between 2ms and 5ms, less say about 59/60hz panel. 5ms GTG not sufficiently fast enough to properly display true 120Hz. So, at 120Hz, big difference, as 5ms GTG is incapable. (only 2 TN LCDs now @ true 120Hz)Thats my point. 2ms & 5ms GTG no perceptible difference at 60Hz. (Majority of LCDs, excluding the 2 ^ & a few others) Those are my points. This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 24 2009, 04:33 PM |
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Sep 28 2009, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Sep 28 2009, 01:43 PM) guys... noob question here. I need a DVI cable. But i see online there's alot of kind. Is it so or just got one kind? And also wut price for the cable normally? Just 2.... SL-DVI or DL-DVI... a monitor with resolution at below 1920x1200@60Hz (or 2048 x 1152@60Hz) utilize SL-DVI... should cost around RM20++ for a standard 1.5m cable (male to male) |
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Sep 28 2009, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Sep 28 2009, 02:13 PM) Ok.. so im looking for a SL DVI because my res is 1920x1080 single-link & dual-link... number of connecting pins and cable bandwidth differ............does sl n dl stands for single or dual monitor? This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 28 2009, 02:25 PM |
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Sep 30 2009, 11:24 AM
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seriously.. for future compatibility... new monitors must have at least a DP port.... HDMI is not a must (if DVI is present)
Added on September 30, 2009, 11:27 am QUOTE(yslysl @ Sep 30 2009, 02:52 AM) Is this brand good? Where can i watch the display unit in Lowyat? Dell U2410.... cheapest high end H-IPS monitor a.t.m. with multiple inputs...Besides, is there any suggestion for other brand? Thanks in advance  This post has been edited by BeastX: Sep 30 2009, 11:27 AM |
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