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IcyDarling
post Jun 19 2009, 10:53 PM

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probably we are elft out bcoz we are too scared off the negative side effect of this nuclear
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Because ppl isn't educated about it. Whenever the nuclear words appear, they'll go OMGWTFNESSBBQ RADIATION!!!
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post Jun 19 2009, 11:22 PM

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that why we should our mentality... people are making alots of money in field.. as i mention b4..

provided nuclear apparatus, consultants, services..etc..
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no leakage oso it is bad for the environment, bcz hot water will be released into the sea. this can affect the ecosystem as well as the income of the fishermen.
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jun 19 2009, 10:53 PM)
probably we are elft out bcoz we are too scared off the negative side effect of this nuclear
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QUOTE(NicJolin @ Jun 19 2009, 11:11 PM)
Because ppl isn't educated about it. Whenever the nuclear words appear, they'll go OMGWTFNESSBBQ RADIATION!!!
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They have good reason to fear imo.

Events that cause the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl happens all the time, overheating, equipment failure, human error but were brought under control with ease. What happened at Three Mile Island/Chernobyl are a series of continuous mistakes and failure to rectify the problem that caused the meltdown.

Unless Malaysia has a well trained crew manning these reactor and even with that, people will still be paranoid about having nuclear plant near their home.
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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jun 19 2009, 11:27 PM)
no leakage oso it is bad for the environment, bcz hot water will be released into the sea. this can affect the ecosystem as well as the income of the fishermen.
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is it warm water.. warm water will promote the growth of plankton, which is food for fishes..
In Japan, there are more fish near the reactor.. blush.gif
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post Jun 19 2009, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jun 19 2009, 11:27 PM)
no leakage oso it is bad for the environment, bcz hot water will be released into the sea. this can affect the ecosystem as well as the income of the fishermen.
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Er...there's a cooling tower there for a reason

QUOTE(SeaGates @ Jun 19 2009, 11:35 PM)
They have good reason to fear imo.

Events that cause the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl happens all the time, overheating, equipment failure, human error but were brought under control with ease. What happened at Three Mile Island/Chernobyl are a series of continuous mistakes and failure to rectify the problem that caused the meltdown.

Unless Malaysia has a well trained crew manning these reactor and even with that, people will still be paranoid about having nuclear plant near their home.
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Exactly the problem in M'sia. Lack of well trained guys
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QUOTE(SeaGates @ Jun 19 2009, 11:35 PM)
They have good reason to fear imo.

Events that cause the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl happens all the time, overheating, equipment failure, human error but were brought under control with ease. What happened at Three Mile Island/Chernobyl are a series of continuous mistakes and failure to rectify the problem that caused the meltdown.

Unless Malaysia has a well trained crew manning these reactor and even with that, people will still be paranoid about having nuclear plant near their home.
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nothing to worry about that..

if u travel alot via airplane, you will receive more dose than nearby nuclear reactor.. this is fact..

can u show me where did that accident happen again??

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QUOTE(profdrahhen @ Jun 19 2009, 11:44 PM)
nothing to worry about that..

if u travel alot via airplane, you will receive more dose than nearby nuclear reactor.. this is fact..

can u show me where did that accident happen again??

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What accident? You mean those overheating, equipment failure? Those are inherent problem when you deal with technologies.

It's not accident until someone say 'uh oh' laugh.gif
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QUOTE(NicJolin @ Jun 19 2009, 11:42 PM)
Er...there's a cooling tower there for a reason
Exactly the problem in M'sia. Lack of well trained guys
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Yub! Now Malaysia concentrate on producing more well trained personnel regarding nuclear field.. rclxms.gif
a good start.. UKM producing around 40+ students per year in nuclear science, soon, nuclear engineering will be available in Malaysia..
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Not every country has the chance to use Nuclear Energy because of Nuclear Proliferation. The WNA will keep an eye on you.

Read more about it:
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf12.html

This is to prevent the misuse of Nuclear Energy. Because military projects can develope Nuclear Weapons.
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QUOTE(ah liew @ Jun 19 2009, 11:54 PM)
Not every country has the chance to use Nuclear Energy because of Nuclear Proliferation. The WNA will keep an eye on you.

Read more about it:
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf12.html

This is to prevent the misuse of Nuclear Energy. Because military projects can develope Nuclear Weapons.
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Malaysia probably will have own nuclear reactor in 2023.
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post Jun 20 2009, 12:33 AM

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just to write out some of my own opinion here.

building a nuclear reactor is costly, and have to train the employees and engineer in different section in operating the plant, even a slight flaw and something unimaginable will happen.

and i dont think we really need that much power from a nuclear reactor, even a small one, maybe is one of the reason why malaysia does not have a nuclear reactor power plant.

furthermore, the area requires to build a nuclear reactor is very big, you need to isolate the nuclear plant from the residential area, so far as i know, most of the lan in malaysia are still forest, and they are protected forest, and there are many mountain area in malaysia, so i dont think it will be an ideal place for building a nuclear reactor.

IF a nuclear reactor were built in malaysia, i bet some people will held protest about the nuclear plant and said that it is dangerous bla bla bla, and the endless debate will start
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0.01 error rate will destroy u and me and him....

we are not prepared for this ... 0% tolerance rate
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Nuclear power??? Not for me, if Malaysia wants to build nuclear reactor, think twice please.

For Malaysia, we can have better option like solar power or wind power.. We have endless sun, for those who lived at Sitiawan, you'll understand my point.

Solar or wind power would not attract too much attention from other country.
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 20 2009, 12:33 AM)
just to write out some of my own opinion here.

building a nuclear reactor is costly, and have to train the employees and engineer in different section in operating the plant, even a slight flaw and something unimaginable will happen.

and i dont think we really need that much power from a nuclear reactor, even a small one, maybe is one of the reason why malaysia does not have a nuclear reactor power plant.

furthermore, the area requires to build a nuclear reactor is very big, you need to isolate the nuclear plant from the residential area, so far as i know, most of the lan in malaysia are still forest, and they are protected forest, and there are many mountain area in malaysia, so i dont think it will be an ideal place for building a nuclear reactor.

IF a nuclear reactor were built in malaysia, i bet some people will held protest about the nuclear plant and said that it is dangerous bla bla bla, and the endless debate will start
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of coz ppl will protest.. but if u can overcome negative perception in this issues, u will thanks god for this technology..

France, German, USA, Japan..etc mostly depends on nuclear power plant to power up their country. Are they out dated like us? whistling.gif
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post Jun 20 2009, 12:55 AM

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more on political issue here...

imagine Singapore got nuclear pahwer.. what will malaysian government do ?

so i think it will be a long long way before we can lay our hand on nuclear..
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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 20 2009, 12:34 AM)
0.01 error rate will destroy u and me and him....

we are not prepared for this ... 0% tolerance rate
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nuclear power plant technolgy safety and security is far beyond of ur thinking.. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(profdrahhen @ Jun 20 2009, 12:56 AM)
nuclear power plant technolgy safety and security is far beyond of ur thinking..  cool2.gif
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and far beyond malaysia human capital and money capital too

politic kills science... just like how religion kill science inb4
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QUOTE(johnsonwps @ Jun 20 2009, 12:49 AM)
Nuclear power??? Not for me, if Malaysia wants to build nuclear reactor, think twice please.

For Malaysia, we can have better option like solar power or wind power.. We have endless sun, for those who lived at Sitiawan, you'll understand my point.

Solar or wind power would not attract too much attention from other country.
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for your information, solar power are not practical to generate electricity...

wind power are practically suitable for Malaysia.. need larger space to fits turbine where nuclear can do..


Added on June 20, 2009, 1:00 am
QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 20 2009, 12:59 AM)
and far beyond malaysia human capital and money capital too

politic kills science... just like how religion kill science inb4
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i agree.. no doubts about this..

This post has been edited by profdrahhen: Jun 20 2009, 01:00 AM

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