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post Jun 16 2009, 08:14 PM, updated 16y ago

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I am hoping to make this thread as a thread where we all discuss about English Paper.
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The thread will be a discussion board of 2009 SPM candidates which focussing paper English 1119.
Frankly I think we just need discuss the Essay part.
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FORMAT[U][SIZE=7]

PAPER 1

[COLOR=orange]SECTION A – DIRECTED WRITING

A) Article
B) Speeches / talks
C) Reports
D) Formal letter
E) Informal letter

SECTION B – CONTINUOUS WRITING
A) Narrative
B) Descriptive
C) Expository
D) Argumentative

PAPER 2

Section A - Objective
Section B – Information transfer
Section C – Reading Comprehension, Summary
Section D –Poems, Short Stories, Novel

TECHNIQUES[SIZE=7]
Paper 1
Section A
Total marks : 35 marks
3 for format
>Use appropriate format, usually some of it are mentioned in the questions
12 for content
>Usually a total of 12 points are given. Just state it with a little description
>If the points given only 10 or >8, the question usually will order us to add points to make a sum of 12
>If only 6 points given, every points need strong elaborations at least in 2 sentences.
20 for language
>Precise use of vocabulary, grammar
ANALYSIS
STATES TRIAL FORMAT
JOHOR FORMAL LETTER
KEDAH REPORT
MELAKA SPEECH
PERAK REPORT
PERLIS REPORT
PULAU PINANG REPORT
SABAH REPORT
TERENGGANU FORMAL LETTER
SELANGOR I DON’T KNOW – UPDATE ME
SBP SPEECH
MRSM I DON’T KNOW – UPDATE ME

>>>General<<<
1.The questions usually formatted essay
2.Points are given
3.Follow the sequence of the points
4.Do not amend the points
5.Mind the plurality of the points

PAPER 2
> I will put some example essays here, please pm me to have your essay on the first page.
Minimum marks is >40

INFORMATION BOARD
SPM 2009 TARGETS
PAPER 1
DIRECTED WRITING
REPORT
PAPER 2
POEM
MONSOON HISTORY
SHORT STORIES
THE NECKLACE
LOOKING FOR THE RAIN GOD
NOVEL
Something related to characters

>for appropriate format of directed writing, please download english module from module

Just for variety,
here's from andrew choo
Directed writing
formal/informal letter/Report
Section D
Poem - Monsoon History/Sonnet 18
Short Stories - Necklace/looking for a rain god
Novel - themes/Moral values

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On continous writting:

There will be 5 choice of essays

More than 350 words

-Story-telling essay

-Factual essay

-General essay

-Describing essay

3 from 5 is combination of describing essay and story-telling essay

It is not advisable to choose factual essay
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post Jun 16 2009, 08:39 PM

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whats general essay?

factual essay is something like "teenages nowadays are more inclined towards entertainment only"
right?

if it's true, then factual essay is my forte.

but why u discourage ppl from writing factual essay?
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essay part is really important if u wanna score both A in SPM and GCE.

well.. an advice in DW.. its a 35 marks question

normally ur given a few points... heres the formula to score..
Format-?
Content-?
Elaboration-?
Language-20
Total-35

so here is how it goes.. language is fixed at 20 marks.. and the rest 15 marks are from format, content and elaboration. this is where u have to find where are the marks from..

those given points are contents.. they must be in the essay.. once the point is written in the essay.. automatically u score.. like for a free essay.. lets say given 7 points for content.. 8 marks will be for elaboration and no marks for content as its a free essay with not format..

lets say letter writing.. ur given 12 points.. the rest would be 3 points for format.. and no elaboration needed..

the thing is just to make sure u get 15 points from ur total calculation..

Directed Writing.. as the name says.. it DIRECTS u.. u dont have to elaborate much.. basically.. jus score the points.. keep it short.. more strength rather then length.. well make sure u get all the 15 points.. it really easy.. some essay give u 15 points.. ur lucky.. jus write short sentences with the points.. u get all the scores.. u dont have to elaborate much..


Added on June 16, 2009, 8:51 pm
QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 16 2009, 08:39 PM)
whats general essay?

factual essay is something like "teenages nowadays are more inclined towards entertainment only"
right?

if it's true, then factual essay is my forte.

but why u discourage ppl from writing factual essay?
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hmm.. im not really trained for factual essay..

well.. for factual essays.. u must really have good command in ur language and points.. u have to impress the examiner in the way u express your points.. well im not tat good.. plus.. the examiners have a marking scheme.. which ur point might not be the same.. and u might lose marks..

for story essays.. its easy.. u can express urself freely.. theres not marking scheme for it.. any story will do.. u just have to play with some vocab.. maintain ur language.. make no mistakes.. and u'll nail it..



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for factual essays u need an analytical mind.. like you have to think up reasons etc. and also you need to have good general knowldge, which is lacking in most secondary school students... its kinda challenging and i like it .. heh..

in fact all my life in secondary school, i nvr touched story writing..

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hahaa.. yeah.. challenging.. but better be safe than sorry..
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post Jun 16 2009, 11:12 PM

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I answered factual essay last year and i scored A1 in GCE-O.
The question was Examination, Good or Bad?
I was very very lucky because I just did that essay 3 days ago, which has similar title "the advantages of examination".

What you need to score factual essays:
-Impressive and correct facts
-Coherent language use
-Wide range of vocabularies, with relevant usage of words
-Clear stand (either you agree/disagree or stand on the fence)
-KNOW RECENT NEWS or related news
-Organized paragraphs

that's all i know... And remember to read a lot. I am trained to do factual essays, so i can't write narrative/descriptive at all. I ALWAYS do factual, and it never failed me~

And who said factual not advisable to do? It's easy to score if you are on the right track...
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Jun 17 2009, 02:12 AM)
*snip*

And who said factual not advisable to do? It's easy to score if you are on the right track...
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I was actually once advised by my English teacher to write descriptive essays instead of factual essays simply because there will be too many people writing factual essays and it's easier to score if I choose to write descriptive essays.

I gave her the WTF look and didn't bother. Only got a B for 1119 in the end, but I'm happy. smile.gif
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haha really lucky there zell,
uh i cant get lucky simply because i dont spot questions for english.. i suck at spotting questions. blink.gif
in fact the BM question which came out, my teacher had predicted it, but i wouldnt listen to her. Lol..
nvm.. BM also i wrote factual in the end, and still got my A1.. cool.gif

but the thing is, do what suits you.
you yourself know what's your forte and what's your kryptonite right?

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All I can say is do more past year paper questions. That helped me a lot in Add Maths actually. I did a lot of past year papers and spotted some answers and i went from E in my trial SPM to A2 for SPM.

If anybody needs help in English pls see my signature below.


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haha practicing for english wont do much when there's nobody to correct you.. u need somebody to pin point ur mistakes...

for add maths.. u have the answers and workings.. its fixed..

for language.. its flexible.. u have to read and read and read..

like zellon said.. factual essay if your ON THE RIGHT TRACK.. what is ur on the wrong track?

like wise.. u wont go out of track in narrative essays.. its a wider scope.. theres no limit for it..
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jun 16 2009, 08:45 PM)
essay part is really important if u wanna score both A in SPM and GCE.

well.. an advice in DW.. its a 35 marks question

normally ur given a few points... heres the formula to score..
Format-?
Content-?
Elaboration-?
Language-20
Total-35

so here is how it goes.. language is fixed at 20 marks.. and the rest 15 marks are from format, content and elaboration. this is where u have to find where are the marks from..

those given points are contents.. they must be in the essay.. once the point is written in the essay.. automatically u score.. like for a free essay.. lets say given 7 points for content.. 8 marks will be for elaboration and no marks for content as its a free essay with not format..

lets say letter writing.. ur given 12 points.. the rest would be 3 points for format.. and no elaboration needed..

the thing is just to make sure u get 15 points from ur total calculation..

Directed Writing.. as the name says.. it DIRECTS u.. u dont have to elaborate much.. basically.. jus score the points.. keep it short.. more strength rather then length.. well make sure u get all the 15 points.. it really easy.. some essay give u 15 points.. ur lucky.. jus write short sentences with the points.. u get all the scores.. u dont have to elaborate much..
On the directed writting:
Let say I got 8points.
Let say Ive been asked to make a talk based on this:
4points in causes
4points in suggestion
So its not mean that I need to elaborate each points?
I did joining some points(2-3)in one paragraph.Is it ok?


Added on June 17, 2009, 4:22 pmMost of English teachers said it is too hard to get mark on factual essay.
I just get 25/50
I have several question:
a)Story-telling essay
I kinda not familiar with it and I guess my minds only work on something that I have been faced.Where can I get examples of story essay.
b)Descriptive essay
The essay seems easy,my dream house but how to elaborate it?
c)General essay
The title is easy.On my midterm the title is "Flower"
How can I make an essay of it?can it be story-telling too or what?

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becareful with your grammar, becareful with overbombastic writing style. simple and accurate is enough to earn u a GCE-O A1
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My question on directed writing has not been answered few years after I took SPM. Is altering keywords in Directed Writing acceptable to score content points?

My classmates and I were taught to use 100% of the given keywords without changing the nature of words (verb -> gerund, noun -> verb in infinite form, etc). Even the order of key points must be followed according to our question paper.

However, friends from other schools of my zone stated otherwise. In the end, "????".
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I don't mind helping you out if I'm able to do so^^
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QUOTE(IamjustME @ Jun 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
My question on directed writing has not been answered few years after I took SPM. Is altering keywords in Directed Writing acceptable to score content points?

My classmates and I were taught to use 100% of the given keywords without changing the nature of words (verb -> gerund, noun -> verb in infinite form, etc). Even the order of key points must be followed according to our question paper. 

However, friends from other schools of my zone stated otherwise. In the end, "????".
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I hope someone can answer this icon_question.gif
But I usually follow it 100% but not the sequence
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QUOTE(babysiiaozz @ Jun 18 2009, 04:12 PM)
I like this thread wub.gif
I don't mind helping you out if I'm able to do so^^
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Glad you like it.
Actually my objective is to get comment in notes form.
means students share their school notes or their experience in note form so I can attach it on the first page and everyone can download or view it easily without having to read all the post on this thread. thumbup.gif
You are form 5?

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QUOTE(realz @ Jun 18 2009, 07:04 PM)
Glad you like it.
Actually my objective is to get comment in notes form.
means students share their school notes or their experience in note form so I can attach it on the first page and everyone can download or view it easily without having to read all the post on this thread. thumbup.gif
You are form 5?
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yeah, i am form 5 ^^ nice one, make sure you don't MIA suddenly one day,
cause no one will be able to edit the first post except mods.. and
i am taking Literature in English too. (extra subject)
can i post directed writing examples/etc here too?


QUOTE(IamjustME @ Jun 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
My question on directed writing has not been answered few years after I took SPM. Is altering keywords in Directed Writing acceptable to score content points?

My classmates and I were taught to use 100% of the given keywords without changing the nature of words (verb -> gerund, noun -> verb in infinite form, etc). Even the order of key points must be followed according to our question paper. 

However, friends from other schools of my zone stated otherwise. In the end, "????".
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it is not advisable to do so because some of us might alter them wrongly..
and the exam 's question paper itself stated clearly that
" you should remember .. to use all the information given"
.. conclusion, it is the best if you don't change anything and elaborate
your points/keywords/etc clearly!

read instruction next time.. ^^

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QUOTE(IamjustME @ Jun 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
My question on directed writing has not been answered few years after I took SPM. Is altering keywords in Directed Writing acceptable to score content points?

My classmates and I were taught to use 100% of the given keywords without changing the nature of words (verb -> gerund, noun -> verb in infinite form, etc). Even the order of key points must be followed according to our question paper. 

However, friends from other schools of my zone stated otherwise. In the end, "????".
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because its an english test,
i just wrote my interpretation of the sentences.
in EST as well.
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It's easier to write a factual essay because you can argue anything out with the topic they give you.

But it's also the most dangerous one to write because you can stray from the question very easily.

I've been writing factual in every single exam since form 4 and been getting lousy grades for them (because apparantly, my teacher doesn't get my point). Somehow I took a last shot and got GCE A1.

So I'd suggest practising the genre that you're comfortable with. Don't change too frequently unless the question is really not within your range.

Vary your writing styles. Don't sound monotonous like "I am a boy. I like to eat bananas". Don't use words that are too bombastic or scientific jargon. You can keep that for EST.
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QUOTE(babysiiaozz @ Jun 18 2009, 07:59 PM)
yeah, i am form 5 ^^ nice one, make sure you don't MIA suddenly one day,
cause no one will be able to edit the first post except mods.. and
i am taking Literature in English too. (extra subject)
can i post directed writing examples/etc here too?
it is not advisable to do so because some of us might alter them wrongly..
and the exam 's question paper itself stated clearly that
" you should remember .. to use all the information given"
.. conclusion, it is the best if you don't change anything and elaborate
your points/keywords/etc clearly!

read instruction next time.. ^^
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Nice. This piece of information should help our current candidates.

Ahh, remembering the old days back in SPM. Challenged myself to write a descriptive essay instead of the usual factual essays and scored 1A in GCE-O. icon_rolleyes.gif Not advisable to do this if i) you are not confident enough and, ii) you are not adapting/improvising enough skills to change your style of writing. nod.gif

As previous forumers have said, clear, concise and balanced essays are requirements for an 1A grade in GCE-O.

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QUOTE(realz @ Jun 17 2009, 04:15 PM)
On the directed writting:
Let say I got 8points.
Let say Ive been asked to make a talk based on this:
4points in causes
4points in suggestion
So its not mean that I need to elaborate each points?
I did joining some points(2-3)in one paragraph.Is it ok?


Added on June 17, 2009, 4:22 pmMost of English teachers said it is too hard to get mark on factual essay.
I just get 25/50
I have several question:
a)Story-telling essay
I kinda not familiar with it and I guess my minds only work on something that I have been faced.Where can I get examples of story essay.
b)Descriptive essay
The essay seems easy,my dream house but how to elaborate it?
c)General essay
The title is easy.On my midterm the title is "Flower"
How can I make an essay of it?can it be story-telling too or what?
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sorry for the late reply bro.. since ur given 8 points.

theres 7 points left.. it will go to the elaboration and format.

read the instructions whether is asks for an opening and ending. if yes that means its 2 points for format.

well then u have to contain 5 elaboration.

its always better to separate ur elaboration to each point.

giving 2 elaboration for one point might be that good..


Added on June 19, 2009, 8:31 pm
QUOTE(IamjustME @ Jun 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
My question on directed writing has not been answered few years after I took SPM. Is altering keywords in Directed Writing acceptable to score content points?

My classmates and I were taught to use 100% of the given keywords without changing the nature of words (verb -> gerund, noun -> verb in infinite form, etc). Even the order of key points must be followed according to our question paper. 

However, friends from other schools of my zone stated otherwise. In the end, "????".
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its advisable not to alter the keywords.

the markers have a marking scheme which the points are the same as given.

as long as u listed the same point given.. u'll get a mark.. if u alter the word.. the marker might miss out the point.. the marker doesnt mark a class bear that in mind.. he has to mark the whole school.. so he will rely on his mind.. its almost hes memorized all the points.. so altering is not advisable really..



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haha.. my teacher used to tell me that too
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but of course u can change the forms of the word.. like
from verb to noun etc. right? as long as you keep the root word i guess.
in fact it shows that youre not just copy pasta..
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^ depends the one who mark our paper is very strict/close minded, etc or not la.. if not, then can accept lor. this is Malaysiaaa. laugh.gif
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There's a shortcut for the 2nd part actually. Just write a descriptive story before your SPM, have a teacher to mark for you and have it memorized. Walk in to the exam hall,take a look on the question and write out everything you have memorized. Change your essay a bit here and there to fit in the question.

Fitting in is the most important part. Your story should include places, special characters and memorable moments. These three elements should let your essay fit in most of the questions. Just take your essay and try to fit in any descriptive essay questions. If it fits in most, then that's your A1 essay.
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always always follow the instructions given, and mind ur grammar as well....a lot of my frens can write really interesting story with powerful vocab, but due to mistakes in grammar, he cant even get a decent B3 for GCE-O
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During my SPM English paper last year, I was having a f***ing bad headache and sweating like hell. For directed writing, I think I missed out 2 points given. I didn't even bother to check and add in the missing points because of the headache. it's driving me crazy. So I finished the paper 15 minutes early and got myself hell out of the class. I thought I wouldn't be able to get A for my English, instead I was shocked the moment I received my English paper. Sorry don't mean to brag, but you just need a flawless consistent writing. Make it short yet compact. The longer the essay, chances are for you to commit mistakes.

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for directed writing.. its very important u keep it short.. its marked based on the points.. as long as u have all the points.. the 15 marks is yours already..
language is 20.. even though u dont have good vocab.. jus try to maintain ur grammar.. dont make mistakes.. its important not to make mistakes.. even with good vocab but alot of mistake.. ur marks is pulled down too.. its better to lift the whole given point.. its safer to do so..

for continuous writing.. like raiw said.. just memorize an essay if you're not that good.. but u have to alter the essay to fit the question.. just use ur imagination to do so.. its pretty easy.. of course.. u have to choose an essay which can be twisted into any ways..

well on top of all.. its very very important to maintain ur grammar..
mistakes pull down your marks..
write simple english if you're not sure what u wanna write..
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QUOTE(babysiiaozz @ Jun 18 2009, 07:59 PM)
yeah, i am form 5 ^^ nice one, make sure you don't MIA suddenly one day,
cause no one will be able to edit the first post except mods.. and
i am taking Literature in English too. (extra subject)
can i post directed writing examples/etc here too?
it is not advisable to do so because some of us might alter them wrongly..
and the exam 's question paper itself stated clearly that
" you should remember .. to use all the information given"
.. conclusion, it is the best if you don't change anything and elaborate
your points/keywords/etc clearly!

read instruction next time.. ^^
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I am more than happy if you can provide me the example of essays.
I will editing the first post with all the information that the forumers share.
Perhaps you can PM me and I will give you my email and you send me the script there so I can put it in the first post.

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no problem there.

sample essays? whoa.. its gonna take time to write it out..

u should just keep reading some sample essays. and also. if possible. find errors.. from ur previous work or your fren's work.. looking for errors helps alott.
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jun 23 2009, 01:04 AM)
no problem there.

sample essays? whoa.. its gonna take time to write it out..

u should just keep reading some sample essays. and also. if possible. find errors.. from ur previous work or your fren's work.. looking for errors helps alott.
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Agreed. Usually teachers will announce the person who wrote the best essay. Approach that friend of yours, read their essay and photostat it if they don't mind. Sharing is caring. thumbup.gif

The difference between that and buying a reference book outside is that the level of English between you and your classmates are more likely to be on par, plus in the same context. Some of the books outside use words that are either too simple (no variation) or the lack good content points. Or others, too bombastic.

I used to go around photostating my classmates essays. Also a good way to know why and where you went wrong.

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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jun 23 2009, 01:04 AM)
no problem there.

sample essays? whoa.. its gonna take time to write it out..

u should just keep reading some sample essays. and also. if possible. find errors.. from ur previous work or your fren's work.. looking for errors helps alott.
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No I mean babysiozz said she want to post the sample essay.
Batusai,
I think the directed writing full mark only 30
15 content
15language


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:15 pm
QUOTE(realz @ Jun 23 2009, 06:57 PM)
No I mean babysiozz said she want to post the sample essay.
Batusai,
I think the directed writing full mark only 30
15 content
15language
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Isnt it?


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QUOTE(realz @ Jun 23 2009, 06:57 PM)
No I mean babysiozz said she want to post the sample essay.
Batusai,
I think the directed writing full mark only 30
15 content
15language


Added on June 24, 2009, 7:15 pm

Isnt it?
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Anyone who has sample of Essay or their school note please contact me so I can put it in first page

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nope.. its 35 for sure.. and CW will be 50.

im not sure the syllabus changed.. but i dont think so..

format, content and elaboration total 15 while language is 20.

just sat for my SPM last year buddy
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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jun 27 2009, 01:30 PM)
nope.. its 35 for sure.. and CW will be 50.

im not sure the syllabus changed.. but i dont think so..

format, content and elaboration total 15 while language is 20.

just sat for my SPM last year buddy
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SPM english ... If you fail this ... go jump down from klcc ..

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SPM english ... If you fail this ... go jump down from klcc ..
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In this thread we are aiming to get A1.
To pass just a tip of iceberg icon_idea.gif
anything to share?


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QUOTE(MoonBaskins @ Jul 5 2009, 07:03 PM)
Seriously,if you have basic knowledge of the English language or everyday interactions with the English language,I don't see what's the problem with scoring A1 for both SPM level English or 1119.In my opinion,SPM level English is extremely low compared to other exams,so,don't worry ^^ reading newspapers can also improve your English
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Added on October 1, 2009, 8:07 pmmy CW for trial is 33 C
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Last time, I used to write factual essay and my marks is always 37.

I thought I can change a bit of my mark grading so I decided to write story, and NO, it didn't help. Still 37 maintained!!
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 16 2009, 09:18 PM)
for factual essays u need an analytical mind.. like you have to think up reasons etc. and also you need to have good general knowldge, which is lacking in most secondary school students... its kinda challenging and i like it .. heh..

in fact all my life in secondary school, i nvr touched story writing..
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QUOTE(Shoki @ Oct 5 2009, 08:14 PM)
Same here. I enjoy doing factual essays even for BM.
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factual essay is easy... you just need to read newspaper and history books..

i just like the 'opinion' essay.. it same as factual.. but we can elaborate it on our own[not too much facts]
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how to score so high for factual essay?
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I dont think factual is my cup of tea,I only manage to get 25 and when I change to descriptive essay I got 28 and now on trial I try story writing I got 33.
The graph increasement seems not worthy.
Hmm sometimes I felt jealous when my friend got 28 just for descriptive essay which I think mine is more powerful I mean the words..grammar is my biggest weakness.
Hmm can anyone share his/her essay? I do think I need to read others essay to ameliorate mine
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how to score so high for factual essay?
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You must talk about facts, obviously. biggrin.gif I once heard my teacher saying that you should at least have 12 points.

I still haven't got my essay back for the trial exam.. Maybe tomorrow. I wrote too little this time. I hope it won't affect my overall mark. My teacher said I did well for my est. I don't know why my est paper is always better than my english. sweat.gif

Anyway, why don't anyone of you post your essays?
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Oct 5 2009, 08:30 PM)
how to score so high for factual essay?
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read the newspaper and history books.. because you want the facts...

i'm always go for 'opinion' essay.. ' icon_rolleyes.gif it more open'
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You must talk about facts, obviously.  biggrin.gif I once heard my teacher saying that you should at least have 12 points.

I still haven't got my essay back for the trial exam.. Maybe tomorrow. I wrote too little this time. I hope it won't affect my overall mark. My teacher said I did well for my est. I don't know why my est paper is always better than my english.  sweat.gif

Anyway, why don't anyone of you post your essays?
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anyone want to break the ice by posting his/her essay?
kae,ixchel,vick,chinese-pig?

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Actually believe it or not...story writing IS the MOST EASY essay to score..
no kidding...
there's no right and wrong as its all your creativity..
just look up some articles or reference books to pick up some interesting lines..

factual essays you really need a lot of facts so i am bluntly discouraging students doing that essay unless you're packed with facts..
my teachers also recommend us to story writing...
if you wanna score A1 for the cambridge A its best to do story writing...factual writing doesnt really appeal to the examiners though...


thats just my opinion..but good luck and all the best.. smile.gif

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Hi there, I would like to make sure about something.

For the last option in continuous writing (the one which usually has only one word), is it true that we are free to write ANYTHING as long as it has something to do with the word given?

Say the question is.... Water.
I can write about the importance of it, the inspiration it gave me etc etc or even make up a story related to water, am I right?

Many thanks in advance smile.gif

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Yes, it's true. Write about how important water is. Write about how water flooded the earth and made you the last survivor on earth. Write about your boyfriend named Water. Write about the existence of water on other planets. Write anything smile.gif

EDIT: Anything to do with water lol ( in case you literally write anything and blame me for getting out of topic ). As long as Water plays a central role in your story/factual essay, even if you use it as the name of your dog, you can't get out of topic with a question so vague.

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  Hi there, I would like to make sure about something.

For the last option in continuous writing (the one which usually has only one word), is it true that we are free to write ANYTHING as long as it has something to do with the word given?

Say the question is.... Water.
I can write about the importance of it, the inspiration it gave me etc etc or even make up a story related to water, am I right?

Many thanks in advance smile.gif


yes...you are not restricted to any kind of essays..
you can make it into a story or factual essay...
you wont be penalized even if what you wrote is kinda ridiculous as long as your essay is about the topic..

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I hope this helps. My English essay for my Semester Exam. Its a narrative. Got 46/50 for it. I'm in Form 5 btw. Its a general essay with the title "fashion". So when it comes to essays like this, you can either write a factual essay or a narrative essay. I usually stay away from factual essays because it is not my forte.

Beware, its very long.


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IWanUrMoney...its a very good essay with quite an unconventional plot twist...like it...
you deserved the 46.. smile.gif
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Haha nice essay, though you have to admit that unless you have a decent eng teacher (which is lacking in msia), more than half of it is wasted on them and high marks are achieved by their lack of understanding.
My preference as of late is to forgo entertaining stories for depth of thought. Sadly, depth is often under-appreciated in the malaysian high school level.

What school do you go to, Iwanurmoney?
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thanks. I'm from SMK Chung Hua Miri. I was thinking of becoming an English teacher next time. I hope i'll be a decent one.

I dont know about West Malaysia though. Whether or not there is alot of good English teachers in here. Haha
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thanks. I'm from SMK Chung Hua Miri. I was thinking of becoming an English teacher next time. I hope i'll be a decent one.

I dont know about West Malaysia though. Whether or not there is alot of good English teachers in here. Haha
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Haha nice essay, though you have to admit that unless you have a decent eng teacher (which is lacking in msia), more than half of it is wasted on them and high marks are achieved by their lack of understanding.
My preference as of late is to forgo entertaining stories for depth of thought. Sadly, depth is often under-appreciated in the malaysian high school level.


actually..factual essays need to be packed with facts and all..you even need to use argumentative words such as on the contrary etc.
its best to write stories for now...
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Depth of thought has no relation whatsoever to factual essays haha. That would be depth of knowledge and exposure. I'm talking about philosophy and creation theories, the meaning of life, the greatest fallacies that plague our society etc. I see no reason to play it safe when writing essays as the whole point in writing essays is to express opinions and entertain. Provided you have a sufficient grasp of the language, i believe that it is infinitely better than plain-jane grammatically sound but intellectually empty essays. Satire, irony, using Filibusters in an essay to convey a point. All this is lost to most.

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Depth of thought has no relation whatsoever to factual essays haha. That would be depth of knowledge and exposure. I'm talking about philosophy and creation theories, the meaning of life, the greatest fallacies that plague our society etc. I see no reason to play it safe when writing essays as the whole point in writing essays is to express opinions and entertain. Provided you have a sufficient grasp of the language, i believe that it is infinitely better than plain-jane grammatically sound but intellectually empty essays. Satire, irony, using Filibusters in an essay to convey a point. All this is lost to most.

Don't just be an english teacher, be a columnist, be an author smile.gif
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actually...i would put teacher to the first option if anyone is interested in language-related career...
ater all our future generation will need a lot of good eng teachers...

and um...ps to misinterpret that...
its good to put out your views but um...i don reli encourage that...
thats my persoanl view anyway
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QUOTE(IWanUrMoney @ Oct 12 2009, 10:42 PM)
thanks. I'm from SMK Chung Hua Miri. I was thinking of becoming an English teacher next time. I hope i'll be a decent one.

I dont know about West Malaysia though. Whether or not there is alot of good English teachers in here. Haha
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Yes, it's true. Write about how important water is. Write about how water flooded the earth and made you the last survivor on earth. Write about your boyfriend named Water. Write about the existence of water on other planets. Write anything smile.gif

EDIT: Anything to do with water lol ( in case you literally write anything and blame me for getting out of topic ). As long as Water plays a central role in your story/factual essay, even if you use it as the name of your dog, you can't get out of topic with a question so vague.
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i THINK u cant use the title as a name of a person..at least as far as what i know..

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my paper 1 grammar it's ok but my essay quite bad how to improve short time ?
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i THINK u cant use the title as a name of a person..at least as far as what i know..
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you can actually...
coz its only a one word title..
open creativity rules here..


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my paper 1 grammar it's ok but my essay quite bad how to improve short time ?
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read model essays and articles on the newspapers..
it'll help on your grammar and widen your vocab...
and its best trying to practice writing and ask your teacher to help you mark...
you'll find your weakness eventually...

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Does going to any hot tips seminar helps ?
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She, through the nebulosity in finding the true meaning of love, she appeared unintentionally as if to shade some light on the definition of true love. She is one of the most crucial persons in my life, even now she is a bit ‘far’ from my presence. I still remember a phrase from a book that I have read, “a real girl isn’t perfect, a perfect girl isn’t real. Absurd, for me there are no other words to describe her but ideal and perfect. In the eyes of others, she might be just a girl from the next door, living an ordinary life yet for me, she is too different, special I meant. Her non-obstrusive kindness portrayed her abstemious manner. The way she offered her helping hand depicted her quixotic attitude. The way she dressed showed her suavity. Her aglow face told us how determined she is to compete in this rat race world. She always being lenient either to her best friends or even to her arch-enemy. She is not a rancorous girl I supposed.She surely change the meaning of ‘beauty is only a skin deep’

By the past experienced, I totally concede with that. “Umair!,answer the question”,a high pitch and tirades voice shook the dreariness of the day, it was my teacher. Prudently, I stood up, I am not a greymatter to answer such abstruse question. “The answer is..the answer is..”, I pleaded for help. “It’s B”, an euphony voice heard. “It’s B”, I answered racily. It was her, her altruistic and non-niggard manner helped me again. It was the first day I realized her existence and more important, the day was the beginning of our friendship. Come shines or rains, she always right beside me to keep my chin up while others were making fun of my courage,inveighing my determination,insulting my effort and even mocking me.

I still remember, One day, it was a rip-roaring day. Wrathfully, I entered the class, thanks to my little annoying brother who cause my lateness to arrive at my spacious school.Impudently I shouted, “What do you looking for?”. It was my burly friend who was messing with my table. “Be patient”,the voice scarcely audible as if the person was about to cry. When I turned to the person, it was her, without a slightest doubt, I felt very disgraceful. Yet, She only uttered her perpetual smirk, her smile tied me in stillness. Agilely, I ask for her forgiveness.

As the time passed, I can feel our relationship is getting stronger and stronger. There is some kind like an adage by Aristotle, “Friendship is one single soul dueling in two bodies”, I can feel that and even more than friendship.Perhaps, love?. I always keep my heart secured and maneuvered from puppy love but my feeling towards her bound me in bizarre. Love can be heinous and maybe can be happiness?but if I had a crush on her, it will make a simple “beauty and the beast”.Nevertheless, I can still have one tiny hope on a proverb to be true, “Love begets love”.

Love is sacrification, that is what I have learnt from the ‘true love’ of Romeo and Juliet, they died together,was that the true love resembles to what I seeking for?. Or was it a love like Clark Kent whom need to keep a distant from Lana Lang as a symbol of his love?.

Then, a day that change the sides of the world came,till today I still cannot believe it. When I was walking with her to the library, we had been circling by a gang of robbers perhaps. There were 3 corpulent guys which are almost twice larger than me. They were blocking our ways and I did not think they look for an amicable way as their intention was us not our money. 3 on 1 seemed a handicap match, they will give me no quarter, I cannot rely on her even I am not an adept in martial arts. “Leave us alone!” I spoke in tense of tranquility.Help is nowhere to be seen as the path is not even daily-used. The quarrel accumulated in a fist-fight as the burglars started to punch me. “Run!Run!”I said to her. It was too late, they caught me and ‘she’.With all might I have,I gave an enormous punch on 2 of them on their stomach, it was not powerful but I manage to run, grabbing her hand as she has been shoved to the soil and we run as fast as lightning. “Tooh!!” it was a shot from one of them, my heart leaping with agony, racing with curiousity.It hit on her chest as she tried to protect me from it, at this juncture,I could not anything. Abruptly, they came to us but fortunately 3 shots in a row heard.All three burglars fall. Her blood oozing rapidly but she still smile, “I will never ever regret this day”. I can only cry powerlessly.

It has been a year since that remorseful day, it was a bolt from the blue, if only I can defeat the burglars she would not have to suffer which means I can still be with her for my upcoming halcyon days.Now she is lying peacefully on the cozy bed in the hospital,she is in coma. Every day, I will pay her a visit with my soaring red eyes and tears. If god wills, I hope she will greet me with her prissiness in amidst of my loneliness life. Yes, love is sacrification.

(MRSM TRIAL 2009 TITLED SHE)

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the underlined is some of my mistakes which Ive corrected

any comments?

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Woaah. I respect you bro. You typed each and every word there.
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Woaah. I respect you bro. You typed each and every word there.
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realz, your essay is superb!! biggrin.gif
With high range of vocabulary and different sentence structure, it really impress me..

I'm really suck in language subject..even my BM is....

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QUOTE(serendipity~ @ Oct 17 2009, 06:47 PM)
realz, your essay is superb!! biggrin.gif
With high range of vocabulary and different sentence structure, it really impress me..

I'm really suck in language subject..even my BM is....
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thanks,
it still need a lot of improvement
btw how's your trial mark for continuous writing?
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QUOTE(realz @ Oct 16 2009, 10:46 PM)
My Essay:
My teacher rated it 45/50  biggrin.gif
She, through the nebulosity in finding the true meaning ... (et cetera.)
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A well done essay. I notice that your vocabulary is quite extensive and accurate.
Although you may need to polish up on your grammar.
On the whole, thumbs-up thumbup.gif to your essay. rclxms.gif
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hey guys in SPM there are 3 eng subjs right? Eng, GCE and EST right? are they counted as 3 separate As or?
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hey guys in SPM there are 3 eng subjs right? Eng, GCE and EST right? are they counted as 3 separate As or?
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English and EST is counted as 2 subjects, for GCE, it's just another standard of marking for English, when your SPM certificate is out, you will see on the right-hand side of your English grade there will be a grade for GCE, you may get 1A for English but 2A for GCE. Or, you are good enough then you will get 1A for both smile.gif


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QUOTE(fhNicK @ Oct 18 2009, 12:17 AM)
A well done essay. I notice that your vocabulary is quite extensive and accurate.
Although you may need to polish up on your grammar.
On the whole, thumbs-up  thumbup.gif  to your essay.  rclxms.gif
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yup my grammar isnt good.
hmm mind to share ur essay?


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English and EST is counted as 2 subjects, for GCE, it's just another standard of marking for English, when your SPM certificate is out, you will see on the right-hand side of your English grade there will be a grade for GCE, you may get 1A for English but 2A for GCE. Or, you are good enough then you will get 1A for both  smile.gif

By the way, it's GCE-O in Malaysia, not GCE-A  smile.gif
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realz, ur essay r reli gud
thumbs up thumbup.gif for ur essays
btw r u frm kl??do u mind sharing ur est essays bout comparison??
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QUOTE(~sky~ @ Oct 18 2009, 09:31 PM)
realz, ur essay r reli gud
thumbs up  thumbup.gif for ur essays
btw r u frm kl??do u mind sharing ur est essays bout comparison??
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nope Im from temerloh pahang.
About EST, Im not good really,
even,it was once in a blue moon I did EST question
somehow Im not good in something factual.
I used to get <20 for EST essay blush.gif
only got 72 in trial
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This is a sample script that my teacher gave me,surprising me..such essay scored 44/50
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nope Im from temerloh pahang.
About EST, Im not good really,
even,it was once in a blue moon I did EST question
somehow Im not good in something factual.
I used to get <20 for EST essay  blush.gif
only got 72 in trial
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Heh..I still remember during my SPM EST paper I went off topic for my essay, had to cancel everything and rewrite everything in 10 minutes rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
Tension tension sweat.gif
Ah..the good old days biggrin.gif
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I'll give it 25/50. Short composition text compressed in a linear fashion. That's pretty much it, eh?

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This is a sample script that my teacher gave me,surprising me..such essay scored 44/50
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That got a 44/50? And I thought my teacher was lenient ...
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That got a 44/50? And I thought my teacher was lenient ...
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hmm mind to share ur essay?
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how open is general title?
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QUOTE(realz @ Oct 22 2009, 08:40 PM)
I am just wondering,
how open is general title?
for example 'silence',
how can I make sure I am not out of topic?
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hi ...
well i think this is not a factual essay rite ?
normally essays with only one words or i would like to call them free writing for i dunno what reason
as long as ur essay has a word that can be relate to silence that it can be counted
the thing about this essay is that u can write freely and cannot be judged on facts
there may be just a sentence that contains the word "silence" and the marker cannot say ur wrong
but sometimes there are those stereotype teachers who think that the essay should contain more fact

so my opinion just to be on the safe side
put a little "silence" here and there and you should be good i guess ...

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QUOTE(paycalvin @ Oct 27 2009, 09:32 PM)
hi ...
well i think this is not a factual essay rite ?
normally essays with only one words or i would like to call them free writing for i dunno what reason
as long as ur essay has a word that can be relate to silence that it can be counted
the thing about this essay is that u can write freely and cannot be judged on facts
there may be just a sentence that contains the word "silence" and the marker cannot say ur wrong
but sometimes there are those stereotype teachers who think that the essay should contain more fact

so my opinion just to be on the safe side
put a little "silence" here and there and you should be good i guess ...
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I am afraid I will be out of topic...
so let say the title is silence,

It was a silence day, supported by an inclement weather...
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so if I put silence just in one line, it can be counted as out of topic?
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I am afraid I will be out of topic...
so let say the title is silence,

It was a silence day, supported by an inclement weather...
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so if I put silence just in one line, it can be counted as out of topic?
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As long as you're writing a story, 'out of topic' doesnt apply.
But try to make your story relevant to the title word. Yeah, I suppose you could put the title word in just one sentence, but beware though, "It was a silence day" is a wrong sentence smile.gif
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As long as you're writing a story, 'out of topic' doesnt apply.
But try to make your story relevant to the title word. Yeah, I suppose you could put the title word in just one sentence, but beware though, "It was a silence day" is a wrong sentence  smile.gif
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My teacher always said " use more vocabularies ! "

Where should I learn it?

My English result alway 60-70. =.= !
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My teacher always said " use more vocabularies ! "

Where should I learn it?

My English result alway 60-70. =.= !
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hmm 60-70 after paper1 + paper2?
to get an A..
even 25/50 in CW is enough
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Erm,i'm an spm leaver so if u dun mind,i wanna drop a few lines here lol~
Erm, english in spm is quite lenient in a way..
Many ppl frm my batch had scored A1/A2 although they usually get b4/c5 in normal exams..
I dun believe in miracles so i think its bcoz the standard is low?
4give my abrupt manners..
Those so-called A1 went to take IELTS and fared badly..Around 3 stg..
Which showed that eng standard in spm is quite low..
The thing u need 2 focus is on the Triple one nine (319?? ^^)
Anyways, that's just my view so good luck for spm..
Cheers..
Btw, try 2 get max marks for paper 2 n the guided writing..
U cn screw up the long essay but it wont be so bad if ur marks in paper 2 n guided is high..

As for open title essays such as stars,girls and etc, i recommend dun take as its very subjective and therefore chances 2 lose marks is high..
Go for factual essays which u can do n bombard with facts n etc..

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Nov 1 2009, 11:32 PM)
Erm,i'm an spm leaver so if u dun mind,i wanna drop a few lines here lol~
Erm, english in spm is quite lenient in a way..
Many ppl frm my batch had scored A1/A2 although they usually get b4/c5 in normal exams..
I dun believe in miracles so i think its bcoz the standard is low?
4give my abrupt manners..
Those so-called A1 went to take IELTS and fared badly..Around 3 stg..
Which showed that eng standard in spm is quite low..
The thing u need 2 focus is on the Triple one nine (319?? ^^)
Anyways, that's just my view so good luck for spm..
Cheers..
Btw, try 2 get max marks for paper 2 n the guided writing..
U cn screw up the long essay but it wont be so bad if ur marks in paper 2 n guided is high..

As for open title essays such as stars,girls and etc, i recommend dun take as its very subjective and therefore chances 2 lose marks is high..
Go for factual essays which u can do n bombard with facts n etc..

xD
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Nov 1 2009, 11:32 PM)
Erm,i'm an spm leaver so if u dun mind,i wanna drop a few lines here lol~
Erm, english in spm is quite lenient in a way..
Many ppl frm my batch had scored A1/A2 although they usually get b4/c5 in normal exams..
I dun believe in miracles so i think its bcoz the standard is low?
4give my abrupt manners..
Those so-called A1 went to take IELTS and fared badly..Around 3 stg..
Which showed that eng standard in spm is quite low..
The thing u need 2 focus is on the Triple one nine (319?? ^^)
Anyways, that's just my view so good luck for spm..
Cheers..
Btw, try 2 get max marks for paper 2 n the guided writing..
U cn screw up the long essay but it wont be so bad if ur marks in paper 2 n guided is high..

As for open title essays such as stars,girls and etc, i recommend dun take as its very subjective and therefore chances 2 lose marks is high..
Go for factual essays which u can do n bombard with facts n etc..

xD
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I for one never liked writing factual essays.
For me it's always story writing, as the topic is entirely up to me and I'm free to write about anything and everything I desire. =P
Depends on the individual really, some people are strong with presenting facts which require concrete and concise English, while creative writing requires well, creative language and decent usage of adjectives. smile.gif
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My teacher always said " use more vocabularies ! "

Where should I learn it?

My English result alway 60-70. =.= !
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My english was really bad last time, but i would say i improved alot during the spm age, from 40marks to 70marks sweat.gif

My suggestion is pay more attention to basic grammar first, dont expect an essay full with red circles to score great mark. For vocab, I used to flip through the dictionary few minutes before exam begin and seek for some hard vocabs, then try to use them in the essay later brows.gif
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Was totally mad when I received my English result. My continuous essay was out of topic, which deduct lots of marks. Surprisingly, now my trial 2 result was ruined by English subject while others are slightly improving. Now my GPA went worse comparing with my mock 1 result. vmad.gif

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QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ Nov 3 2009, 06:03 PM)
Was totally mad when I received my English result. My continuous essay was out of topic, which deduct lots of marks. Surprisingly, now my trial 2 result was ruined by English subject while others are slightly improving. Now my GPA went worse comparing with my mock 1 result.  vmad.gif
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that's what Im afraid of,
out of topic,
hmm you make narrative writing?
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that's what Im afraid of,
out of topic,
hmm you make narrative writing?
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I took risk on writing stories. Majority of my English teachers will give more priority/higher marks to students that write factual essays. I'm sick of writing those, so in the end I chose to do narrative writing. It's a bit unfair for creative students that wrote great horror stories during mock1 and they ended up getting low grades. sad.gif
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I took risk on writing stories. Majority of my English teachers will give more priority/higher marks to students that write factual essays. I'm sick of writing those, so in the end I chose to do narrative writing. It's a bit unfair for creative students that wrote great horror stories during mock1 and they ended up getting low grades.  sad.gif
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well I cant make factual essay..
I also make a story..what's the title?
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well I cant make factual essay..
I also make a story..what's the title?
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I wrote a mother's sacrifice. What he had commented about my essay was describing a mother's duty. Guess this time he's right. sad.gif
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I wrote a mother's sacrifice. What he had commented about my essay was describing a mother's duty. Guess this time he's right.  sad.gif
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it's not a single word title right?
like : mother, love, trees
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QUOTE(realz @ Nov 3 2009, 09:42 PM)
it's not a single word title right?
like : mother, love, trees
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The title's just "A Mother's Sacrifice". tongue.gif
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People I need help desperately!
For Paper 1(Essay paper) Section A :Directed Writing, I need help with the formats of Article,Report. Firstly, I bought a revision book which teaches you the format of SPM. The book got a lot of report formats which are confusing(movie review,news review,school minute etc,but they say won't come out in SPM 1). Then I bought 2 revision books ( model questions ) the first book my sister says is for O levels because the questions&answers all very hard and my sister told me for report only got 1 type only(this book got school minute questions and alot of hard stuff, everyone say that it will never come out in SPM). Then the second model question book's answer like very simple and the format is like normal(I think this is the correct book,but I'm just not sure whether it is the right format, many of my friends are giving different opinion/advice) So my question is, which do I follow? and if possible please guide me on which format should I use. Thank you so much.

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QUOTE(diversity @ Nov 3 2009, 11:46 PM)
People I need help desperately!
For Paper 1(Essay paper) Section A :Directed Writing, I need help with the formats of Article,Report. Firstly, I bought a revision book which teaches you the format of SPM.  The book got a lot of report formats which are confusing(movie review,news review,school minute etc,but they say won't come out in SPM 1). Then I bought 2 revision books ( model questions ) the first book my sister says is for O levels because the questions&answers all very hard and my sister told me for report only got 1 type only(this book got school minute questions and alot of hard stuff, everyone say that it will never come out in SPM). Then the second model question book's answer like very simple and the format is like normal(I think this is the correct book,but I'm just not sure whether it is the right format, many of my friends are giving different opinion/advice) So my question is, which do I follow? and if possible please guide me on which format should I use. Thank you so much.
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look on the first page,Ive updated it.
Download the module
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look on the first page,Ive updated it.
Download the module
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Hey, thanks a lot it really helps. For the report format, is that the only one that will come out in SPM? What about 'school minutes,newspaper report,movie report etc? thanks again!
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Hey, thanks a lot it really helps. For the report format, is that the only one that will come out in SPM? What about 'school minutes,newspaper report,movie report etc? thanks again!
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According to my analysis, (refer pg 1)
We will do report this 19th (even I hope for something that not too formal) and I dont think it will be news or movie reports.
All in the module nothing more than it nod.gif
hopefully thumbup.gif
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Ok, to those taking BI this coming SPM 2009

When it comes to essay try your best to do factual essays, don't risk writing stories, those guys marking your paper will seriously check your essay.

If factual you can tipu-tipu a bit tongue.gif
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QUOTE(noobfc @ Nov 10 2009, 04:36 PM)
Ok, to those taking BI this coming SPM 2009

When it comes to essay try your best to do factual essays, don't risk writing stories, those guys marking your paper will seriously check your essay.

If factual you can tipu-tipu a bit  tongue.gif
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but my vocabs isnt like for such essay
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QUOTE(noobfc @ Nov 10 2009, 04:36 PM)
Ok, to those taking BI this coming SPM 2009

When it comes to essay try your best to do factual essays, don't risk writing stories, those guys marking your paper will seriously check your essay.

If factual you can tipu-tipu a bit  tongue.gif
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blink.gif may i know how is it possible to tipu-tipu a bit when writing factual essays ?
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hey guys, i want to share my trial essay with you all. i got 41 for it and i admit that i did some 'research' on it.

Title: Smoking among teenagers

Consider all teenagers are smokers. Why is it so? Because smoking is basically a process of inhaling smoke of tobacco leaves from a pipe, cigar or more commonly, cigarette. Smiking among teenagers has increased during the past few years. According to statistics, 3 out of 10 teenagers are smokers and 6 out of 10 teen smokers states the cause of them being a smoker is due to the influence of friends. Numerous measures have been taken to curb this habit that is labelled as 'cool' by some teens. However, most of the steps are just ineffective.

The most recent campaign to hit our shore is having an offensive picture of the effect of smoking on each cigarette pack. For excample, you an see pictures of a smoker's lungs, heart, feet, liver, lips and even a stillborn baby behind the cashier's counter at your neighbourhood grocery store. In my opinion, it is indeed effective towards long-term and aging smokers but I do not believe that this would make as much impact towards teen smokers. This is because most teenagers nowadays have been desensitized by television shows, movvies and viral videos in the Internet. My friend once told me he actually bought each of the unique cigarette pack because he thought they were like an adult version of the freebies in a McDonald's Happy Meal.

Another step that I think is also not effective is the banning of the sale of cigarettes to a minor. Due to their rebellious nature, teenagers are able to bypass it easily. For example, a minor can easily says that he or she wants to buy a pack of cigarettes for his father. But, even if the person who is selling cigarettes to them knew he or she is a minor and lying, they would not even bother. For them, money makes the world go round and they would do anything to make some greens. It makes them even happier when the Government has increased the price of a cigarette pack.

Some even called for a ban of smoking altogether. Some argued that implementing this will cause all smoker, including teen smokers, to stop smoking. However, doing this is stagerringly naive. If smoking is banned, why not ban alcohol too? How about chocolate? It is only a matter of time to see the items mentioned to be banned too if smoking is banned. Let the smokers have their free will to do whatever they want because we do not need a Big Brother to control our daily lives.

In conclusion, most of the steps to curb smoking among teenagers like the ones I have listed are ineffective and almost a complete waste of time, money and effort. Every layer of society should work together to think of a far more approachable and effective way to curb this habit among teenagers.
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QUOTE(noobfc @ Nov 10 2009, 04:36 PM)
Ok, to those taking BI this coming SPM 2009

When it comes to essay try your best to do factual essays, don't risk writing stories, those guys marking your paper will seriously check your essay.

If factual you can tipu-tipu a bit  tongue.gif
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Yes you can lie about facts, but get caught and marks will be severely deducted. Because you have to elaborate on the points that you gave. And that means that your whole paragraph is a lie, therefore no marks will be given for your content. Only marks for your language.

How SPM/PMR papers are marked is that they have atleast 2-3 different teachers checking on the same paper. Your paper goes through the 1st teacher, then onto the 2nd and so on. Chances are that you will get caught.
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May I know. Which is better to write in SPM?

FACTUAL or NARRATIVE WRITING.

I want more scores.


Added on November 12, 2009, 10:58 ami like to use bombastic words in narrative writin/story.
will it be good or bad?



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It's around 300 words like the instruction given. My teacher told me not to write excessively since the examiner will get bored.
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QUOTE(neuroneuster @ Nov 12 2009, 10:44 AM)
May I know. Which is better to write in SPM?

FACTUAL or NARRATIVE WRITING.

I want more scores.


Added on November 12, 2009, 10:58 ami like to use bombastic words in narrative writin/story.
will it be good or bad?
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Not really advisable for students weak in english.

What do you normally write for an english essay for your trails & mid-terms? The time to experiment with your writing is during normal term exams. See which of the type of essays which doesn't give you many problems. Points which you can write down with a snap.

Bombastic words would certainly give you additional marks for your language. smile.gif But make sure the use of the word is correct. Try to add in idioms as well, exactly like the use of peribahasa in BM.


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It's around 300 words like the instruction given. My teacher told me not to write excessively since the examiner will get bored.


No harm writing more than the required words but try to make sure that your additional paragraphs and such are 100% correct.

I've seen examples of essays of which SPM students wrote. The essay had more than 1000 words in it. And the essay got a 92/100. Make your writing more interesting, so that the examiner wouldnt get bored. biggrin.gif



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what topic come out for spm 2009...


Added on November 14, 2009, 7:11 pmwho can share me eassay sweet memory for continues writing

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what topic come out for spm 2009...


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sweet memory?
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any tips for English literature ? I am clueless on what to read, since I emphasized only in essays

btw, are we allowed to use American spelling ?

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wah, that was really high. here's mine, managed to score 38 only sweat.gif

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any tips for English literature ? I am clueless on what to read, since I emphasized only in essays

btw, are we allowed to use American spelling ?
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IF Im not mistaken, it will be the necklace, monsoon History and looking for a rain god..

I have asked my teacher about the American spelling before, and she said that as we use British English in our education system, so the spelling must follow British English. GCE O is marked based on British marking system, American spelling will be considered as wrong..
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QUOTE(serendipity~ @ Nov 14 2009, 08:44 PM)
IF Im not mistaken, it will be the necklace, monsoon History and looking for a rain god..

I have asked my teacher about the American spelling before, and she said that as we use British English in our education system, so the spelling must follow British English. GCE O is marked based on British marking system, American spelling will be considered as wrong..
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Oh shoot, no leniency ?

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QUOTE(jaiho @ Nov 12 2009, 10:26 PM)
Not really advisable for students weak in english.

What do you normally write for an english essay for your trails & mid-terms? The time to experiment with your writing is during normal term exams. See which of the type of essays which doesn't give you many problems. Points which you can write down with a snap.

Bombastic words would certainly give you additional marks for your language.  smile.gif But make sure the use of the word is correct. Try to add in idioms as well, exactly like the use of peribahasa in BM.
No harm writing more than the required words but try to make sure that your additional paragraphs and such are 100% correct.

I've seen examples of essays of which SPM students wrote. The essay had more than 1000 words in it. And the essay got a 92/100. Make your writing more interesting, so that the examiner wouldnt get bored.  biggrin.gif
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Thanks.
Usually I do factual essays as they are crushier for me.
But in exams, I attempt narrative essays.


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wah, that was really high. here's mine, managed to score 38 only sweat.gif

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Wow,did u write from personal experience? just kidding,this is good,id give this higher marks than the other guy who got 47 or sumthing.....seriously,ths is better
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Ah.. how do you guys memorise all the vocabs?
Im having a hard time in expanding my vocabs sad.gif
Vocabs learnt will be forgotten on the very next day ..this is the problem that ive been encountering for so long..
Is there any method to always keep the vocabs present in my mind?so that i will be able to use all of them under appriopriate circumstances...
instead of running out of verbs or adjective to describe something like actions and expressions

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Any tips for what type of essay is coming out?
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QUOTE(ecVk @ Nov 15 2009, 01:10 AM)
Any tips for what type of essay is coming out?
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Speech, article...

Hey guys, what pen colour do you use when writing essay in SPM ?

For math and Addmath, do you guys use Pencil ?


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add math can use pencil for eassay use black pen only cause it easy for teacher checking your eassay at night...
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QUOTE(Lamb Of Dog @ Nov 14 2009, 11:02 PM)
Wow,did u write from personal experience? just kidding,this is good,id give this higher marks than the other guy who got 47 or sumthing.....seriously,ths is better
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i'm a skinny guy la, hahaha. forget where did i took the story from tongue.gif
during the previous trial, i was lucky because my story can fit 2-3 questions.
hope the same for our real exam blush.gif

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QUOTE(Lamb Of Dog @ Nov 14 2009, 11:02 PM)
Wow,did u write from personal experience? just kidding,this is good,id give this higher marks than the other guy who got 47 or sumthing.....seriously,ths is better
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yup his better,
but mine being rated by one of the SPM markers


Added on November 15, 2009, 9:15 pmJust for variety,
here's from andrew choo
Directed writing
formal/informal letter/Report
Section D
Poem - Monsoon History/Sonnet 18
Short Stories - Necklace/looking for a rain god
Novel - themes/Moral values

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QUOTE(realz @ Nov 15 2009, 09:13 PM)
yup his better,
but mine being rated by one of the SPM markers


Added on November 15, 2009, 9:15 pmJust for variety,
here's from andrew choo
Directed writing
formal/informal letter/Report
Section D
Poem - Monsoon History/Sonnet 18
Short Stories - Necklace/looking for a rain god
Novel - themes/Moral values
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do u know wat topic andrew choo score for continuous writing ?

btw ~ almost every exam i wrote factual essay ~
mostly score about 40 marks ~ but my teacher keep telling me to write narrative ~
so i'm really desperate for a piece of narrative essay with good storyline n can easy fit in with most kinda topic ~

do anyone know where to find it ?

i'll really appreciate it ` thx notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(colaaa @ Nov 15 2009, 10:03 PM)
btw ~ almost every exam i wrote factual essay ~
mostly score about 40 marks ~ but my teacher keep telling me to write narrative ~
so i'm really desperate for a piece of narrative essay with good storyline n can easy fit in with most kinda topic ~

do anyone know where to find it ?

i'll really appreciate it ` thx  notworthy.gif
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factual essay is quite challenging, even in BM for me.

btw, Google is the answer.
avoid taking story from few first search result.
try to look up on page 15-20 instead. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Nov 15 2009, 11:00 PM)
factual essay is quite challenging, even in BM for me.

btw, Google is the answer.
avoid taking story from few first search result.
try to look up on page 15-20 instead. smile.gif
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i think it's easy to write but hard to score high marks ><

ohh ~
i waste almost 2 days searching through google ~
u need to pay for most of the essays ~
n i found nth suitable ><

the story is like too u know .. weird ><
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QUOTE(colaaa @ Nov 15 2009, 10:03 PM)
do u know wat topic andrew choo score for continuous writing ?

btw ~ almost every exam i wrote factual essay ~
mostly score about 40 marks ~ but my teacher keep telling me to write narrative ~
so i'm really desperate for a piece of narrative essay with good storyline n can easy fit in with most kinda topic ~

do anyone know where to find it ?

i'll really appreciate it ` thx  notworthy.gif
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did all of you really memorizing essays?
wow!
I dont think we should target on CW
the scope too wide.. rclxub.gif
but if you insist,
andrewchoo target about
-An exciting holiday/interesting place
-Habits of malaysians
-Parents
-If I were rich and famous
-Tourism

Seriously I think it's useless because he targetting most of trial q and I doubt it will come out.
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All The Best!
I hope we are ready enough to answer english paper tomorrow.
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yea, all the best comrades!
i hope CW questions could fit my essay sweat.gif
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perhaps MY HERO comes out tomorrow?
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yeahhh ~

i wrote Q4 today ~

can easily fit in with an essay i wrote years ago ~

btw~ 1119 is only mark base on CW ?

not even directed ? hmm.gif
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i don't think so. it's okay if you did your DW well, so do with CW.
but if you only did well for CW, then it should be a problem.

anyway, my story fit Q5 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Nov 19 2009, 07:35 PM)
i don't think so. it's okay if you did your DW well, so do with CW.
but if you only did well for CW, then it should be a problem.

anyway, my story fit Q5 biggrin.gif
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no ~ i think it's only on the CW ~
directed not counted ~ my teacher said tht ~
cause i hav not enuf time n finish DW in 10 minutes ~><
the handwriting was awful ><

btw ~ i'm now still blur abt the est format ~
Any one can contribute ?
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Same with English bro.
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QUOTE(Shoki @ Nov 19 2009, 09:25 PM)
Same with English bro.
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same like the one we wrote in DW today ?
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I took question 5,
hope my CW is ok.

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I screwed up my report....and the paper states there 15 markss for the format....I am a gonner
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report's format mark this year is just 2 ..... ==
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Ahh i see....Thanks for telling me....I enjoice.
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15 marks is for format and content

So enjoice. biggrin.gif
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not getting A in english is worse than failing BM..
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This thread can close liao.
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Don't worry bro. Format only 3 marks.
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QUOTE(Vincent_Konrad @ Oct 12 2009, 08:06 PM)
yes...you are not restricted to any kind of essays..
you can make it into a story or factual essay...
you wont be penalized even if what you wrote is kinda ridiculous as long as your essay is about the topic..
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May i know what do the 5 essays that came up in Section B of Paper 1 English SPM 2009?
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it's still called 1119 English paper when it's no longer marked by Cambridge Singapore?


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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Jun 23 2010, 03:49 PM)
May i know what do the 5 essays that came up in Section B of Paper 1 English SPM 2009?
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I only remember the fifth lol = beauty


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QUOTE(lexiqa @ Jun 23 2010, 04:53 PM)
it's still called 1119 English paper when it's no longer marked by Cambridge Singapore?
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section B still marked by cambridge level

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so weird.

it used to be separate papers. so when u get two diff marks also bcoz u sat for diff papers.

how can it be called english 1119 when it's not even up to par as gcse english 1119...zzzzz

 

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