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 Panasonic Plasma G10 vs S10, To NeoPDP or Not?

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TSLone*Wolf
post Jun 16 2009, 06:24 PM, updated 17y ago

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As we speak, the G10 has finally arrived and shipped to dealers. RRP = RM6,399. TV ONLY.

The S10's RRP = RM4,499.

Major difference btw the two is the NeoPDP.

Want some feedback as whether the NeoPDP is worth the extra RM2K?
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post Jun 16 2009, 10:10 PM

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So from the few comments here, can I take it as the NeoPDP technology is mere marketing fluff?

Higher contrast ratio, brighter, slimmer panel, saves energy. The NeoPDP in the G10 is definitely a step up from the S10, no doubt. My concern is whether all these 'improvements' are worth/significant enough to cough up the additional RM2,000.
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post Jun 17 2009, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy_mahen @ Jun 16 2009, 10:51 PM)
RRP = RM6,399, how many inch?

by the way, what else apart from NeoPDP?
(and is it 100% really NeoPDP)?
btw,(i'm a bit slow),how did we knew S10 was not NeoPDP?

tq.
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Hey, Coolguy!

Its 42". The only G10 size in Malaysia (ATM, at least tongue.gif )

Its with the new NeoPDP, the thing thats lacking in the S10, and the one you were waiting for whistling.gif Other than that, the other difference (to S10) is its Sub-field Drive is 50Hz more. I don't think there's anything else major, thats why my question of whether the NeoPDP does justice to my sweat and blood RM2K.


Added on June 17, 2009, 11:08 am
QUOTE(jchong @ Jun 16 2009, 11:09 PM)
You're not in a hurry right? So wait until you can do a demo then decide if it's worth it or not. I find it pointless to ask in this forum when no one has actually demo'd the NeoPDP panel yet.

Also, why jump to conclusions so fast that it is mere marketing fluff? What is fluff is the comments given which so far are either uninformed or irrelevant. Basing your conclusion on the comments given so far is premature.
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Dun worry, I actually do have my own opinion about the NeoPDP, but would just like to hear it from the rest of you guys first smile.gif

There's no urgency and I do agree that the best way to conclude the 'value' of the NeoPDP is for a live demo, or at least a sneak peak from people like iamsobloodysick, htkaki, tan, etc. Having said that, its either the S10 or the G10 for me, and I heard the S10 promo with BD will end soon, hence ... kan cheong lo, thats why need some invaluable feedback soonest sweat.gif

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post Jun 17 2009, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jun 17 2009, 11:51 AM)
if panasonic japan is going to release the NeoPDP which it unveiled during the CES Jan 2009 in LAS VEGAS/Panasonic Fair in Osaka 2008, the panel thickness will be less than 10mm. i guess this model most probably will not come out so soon.  laugh.gif

to be exact, the panel is somewhat 25mm thick (tbc).
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I doubt the G10 will be that slim, though it would be interesting to see how much slimmer it would be as compared to the S10. I believe the real slim ones will be the 'Z' series, if i am not wrong.


Added on June 17, 2009, 5:58 pm
QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jun 17 2009, 01:53 PM)
michaeltan1943, I could not agree with you more on Pioneers economics of scale and the fact that they are dead in terms of displays.

I was merely responding to the original poster, who asked the differences between NeoPDP and the S series. There are differences, whether or not he believes it is value for money depends on the individual. The point that I am trying to make is not a economic point, but more of a technical point. Also if the G series is a THX certified neo PDP than the primary colours will also be more accurate.

To the person who views colour accuracy and picture details as important these are the differences, to the person who does not than this is not even a question.
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Thanks for yr notes on the NeoPDP. And you are right, this thread is not about whether NeoPDP is a gimmick or what sales strategies Panasonic has. Just a consumer who wants to know whether the main difference btw the S10 and G10 (ie. the NeoPDP) is worth the price difference. I guess until someone has tested the physical unit, we will never know for sure how much more slimmer or brighter it is. So who has one already? whistling.gif


Added on June 17, 2009, 6:01 pm
QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jun 17 2009, 03:35 PM)
xtually, if use plasma watching astro oni, got neopdp or not is not a major problem rite....coz the PQ will always same..rite?
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If watching Astro only then a CRT would be the best solution. So no, I would be using it for HD output also.

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post Jun 18 2009, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jun 18 2009, 04:03 PM)
NeoPDP G10 will be on the display shelf by next week.  biggrin.gif
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Eh, why only next week? Went to a shop in Gombak early this week and they already carrying the G10 to their shop wor...

Anyway, will be waiting for your feedback on this, this week or next week notworthy.gif

BTW, do you know will the S10 promo end?
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post Jun 19 2009, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Jun 19 2009, 06:13 PM)
G series not heavily priced, i think the S series was too lightly priced. imagine getting a FHD plasma TV with free Blu Ray player for less than RM5k...

i think bcos of price S series will sell more..

sticking to the thread, my vote -> Not to NEO
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A direct answer, thank you. May I know why? Due to the price difference? Or the improvements over the older (cheaper) panel is insignificant?

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post Jun 20 2009, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Jun 20 2009, 02:23 AM)
Anyone compare G10 vs Kuro ?
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Kuro wins, hands down. BTW, can we narrow down this thread to G10 (NeoPDP) vs S10, pls? Thanks.


Added on June 20, 2009, 5:47 pm
QUOTE(WereWolf84 @ Jun 20 2009, 08:19 AM)
Anyone know whether P42G10 hv display at Best Denki or not? coz I'm planning to go to hv an audition on this new plasma
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Pls do let us know if you happen to see the G10 in action! Particularly whether the NeoPDP makes a RM2K difference or not over the S10 smile.gif


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post Jun 25 2009, 02:08 PM

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Yeah, I am a bit surprised that most dealers have not displayed the G10 yet, though it has been delivered early last week.

BUT, I am sure the LYN dealers here have gotten the models already, seeing that they are selling it now in the Trade Zone. So any of them care to compare and comment hmm.gif
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post Jun 25 2009, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(sailou @ Jun 25 2009, 03:46 PM)
Probably the dealers are skeptical of the sales because of the price. Maybe this will alarmed the Panasonic into reducing their price for G10. I've actually seen a 42G10 in Jusco Alpha Angle once during the roadshow. It puzzles me why they don't display the model after the roadshow.

Maybe someone can check out Jusco in 1U which frequently does a Panasonic roadshow.
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However....

If the PQ difference the NeoPDP makes is much greater than the price difference, then dealers should sing about it, so to arouse interest and ultimately increasing sales of the G10?

Or maybe not much to say about it ??? ... sweat.gif
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post Jun 28 2009, 12:26 AM

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I'll give it one more day, and if there's no clear evidence about the fancy panel justifying the fancy price, I'll join the Kelab S10 ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 29 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(sailou @ Jun 29 2009, 03:50 AM)
42G10 is on display in 1U New Wing main concourse. Priced at RM6399 compared to 42S10 at RM3999. I spoke to one of the Panasonic representative and he said that the difference is not huge between both.

The joint electrical fair is organised by Best Denki.
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At last, the shy G10 makes a public appearence!

mm.. Even their rep himself acknowledge the lack of difference? Then again, most sales reps are not AV enthusiasts. What about you, sailou? Whats yr opinion comparing the S10 with the G10?
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post Jun 29 2009, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 29 2009, 12:48 PM)
I personally thinks that there will not be a much difference between the 2 panel.  The Neo thing probably consume slightly less power and that is about it.  In my opinion, the picture quality of todays tv is not like leaps and bound better then those of last year but rather of some subtle improvement.  they might have slightly better contrast or brightness and that can easily miss that unless you do a side by side comparison.
Yeah, I am now arriving to that conclusion, hence leaning towards the S10 smile.gif

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post Jul 6 2009, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Nezloais @ Jul 5 2009, 04:11 PM)
RM 7000.00 FOR A FLIPPIN TV !!!! WTF !!!!
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What the flip are you referring to?
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post Jul 25 2009, 04:58 PM

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Honestly, the reflection in the S10 is much better than the X10. Its negligible and a non-issue if viewing in darker environments. You can't win them all lah.
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post Jul 25 2009, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jul 25 2009, 08:42 PM)
Panny G series is a good model at very good price but people seem dont appreciate this series very much.
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Yeah, I agree. This is cannibalism at its worse, right? If the S10 is not so strategically priced, the G10 will be a bargain, considering last year's 42" FullHD officially retails at RM7,999.

Then again, you have the luxury to try out this model first hand, any significance difference to the S10 your eyes can see, besides those numbers on the spec sheet?

 

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