What evidence?

Yeah they were covering up something thats for sure. But not sure if it was extra terrestrials vehicle from another galaxy.

Not believing in UFO phenomena does not mean not believing that there 'might' be other intelligent species out in the cosmos. Skeptics are what they are because they want credible evidence to lead us forward...not wild fantasies. Is there a possibility that Alien life has visited earth...sure there is the chance they might have already...BUT until we do not get the evidence of them, we can't claim so yet.

I would doubt that. We would have ethics, a code of conduct to stand by on what is right and what is not. Abduction of intelligent life is unethical(regardless how primitive they are). I would like to think if man become space farer's in the future, we take a more hands off approach towards our neighbours in the universe.

Well, as long as we move away from the 'free' market concept of economics. I'm hopeful.

No you see the fallacy of this thought there? You shouldn't think whether it was a UFO but rather you should wonder what it really was. By thinking if it was a UFO you are allowing your own bias to cloud your judgement. Never judge something with pre conceived ideas.

I suppose it is god that created those things in the sky. No, I suggest you rethink what you said. There have been investigations on whatever phenomena related to UFO's. It was just found not to have conclusive evidence to support their extraordinary claims.

Again let me reiterate, phd school is about discussion of a topic and finding the truth. You want to find out the truth, we want to find out the truth too. I don't see where the problem lies. We allow you guys to post here and we don't say we don't like your ideas so don't post here(except for those that post one liner opening threads).

Please don't try to change the topic. This thread is about UFO's. Please stick to the topic.

Yes I agree but evidence should also be supplied to support the theory of UFO's as extra terrestrial objects. We can't jump to the conclusion that they were aliens(simply because popular culture says so). So instead of arguing with others let's find credible evidence of this phenomena.

I personally have been trying to figure out a particular case myself(Sepang UFO incident you can search it here). But unfortunately have not managed to find photographs of it(they were frontpage photos of it in the Stars in 96). I find it frustrating that there wasn't any proper study into that incident(possibly the highest profile UFO sighting in Malaysia).

As you can see in that thread I had believers well immediately believing that it was indeed an Alien vehicle. Which isn't the way it's supposed to work(scientific investigations).

So as I said, we are all, on the same side.


My thread on the Sepang UFO incident is overhere:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1145532

As you can see I have compiled all archived article I could find online on that incident. It's still pretty inconclusive and there wasn't really any interest to investigate that incident. Blame aphatethic Malaysian attitude. But that's a different topic. If you have more info on that, do share.

This post has been edited by frags: Nov 13 2009, 02:29 PM

Correction: Do not call people idiots full stop. You counter peoples point about UFO's or what not(if you disagree that is). You do not attack the person itself. Also please do report flame wars. I'm not keen to allow such things to continue in this section.

Possibly by the time we come in contact(a radio signal) with another civilisation, they could already be extinct. A last message from a dead civilisation.

The odds will be much better if we manage to extend our lifespan(this possibly also means outliving out sun, our homeworld) and not destroy ourselves. Maybe intergalactic space travel is extremely difficult where maybe not many civilisations(or none at all) can manage to achieve it.

Even so, the promise of exploring the cosmos is a tantalising prospect which I think we should endeavor to reach. But we have to leave behind our destructive ways.

Yes but we are talking about a huge timescale. Don't see 50 or 100 years. Maybe 1000 years. Of course local issues need to be solved. Energy crisis, dwindling resources, poverty, politics, income distribution, human rights(lets face it, we may be the most advanced species on this planet, but we haven't advanced enough to treat others of our own species well enough).

Eventually science should find a breakthrough. It doesn't have to be in the field of astrophysics. Other scientific fields can (and have always) contribute to our ultimate goal. Of course we'll have to 'survive' on this planet, from ourselves to reach that point in the first place.