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Well there is a myth saying that the pyramids were built by the help of aliens, there for i conclude that definitely wouldn't they be able to use proper mathematical techniques to built such a monument. the fact is how could any human being built such a thing 4000 years ago. the aliens would have used proper on the dot mathematical teqniques to build.
Have you ever been to pyramid? I believe those "creator" was using a great mathematical techniques to build that pyramid.
And the other thing is, you can try put an apple inside the pyramid and the other one at a refrigerator. Within a month, you can see the result
Apple inside the pyramid is still fresh and you can eat it right away.

NB : about the apple thing, i was told by the pyramid guide when i was having my trip there


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So you're saying that even pyramids in Aztecs were built by Aliens? If they were, why were these Egyptians and Aztecs were conquered by waaaay primitive gunpowder weaponry?

Since they're soooo advanced, that they can of course doens't even need to invent weapons because tools used to build Pyramids are already enough to wipe an army of 678 men from Spain.

Egyptians too, were conquered by far primitive roman army using only simple cutting weapons. So where are the technology that should be found by us? So, UFO is just a hoax. Have u watched Youtube video showing Area-51? I think it's fake.

since someone mentioned about SETI and UFO, what do u guys think about 'WOW effect'?

Pyramid power is a looney myth that has been debunked over and over again. It just doesn't happen.

Tour guide just play along, telling the truth hurt business. Nobody will visit our dear Pulau Dayung Bunting if the tour guide tell you that the water there do not make someone pregnant. Everybody knows where babies come from, but it's these stories that keep tourist interested in these tourist attractions.

Many feat that the pyramids have are actually found in other structure. Ancient Greece and Roman has many engineering feat similar to the pyramid. The difference here is the scale.

Without enough time and resource which the Egyptians have, you can build almost anything. Funny that why nobody said Angkor Wat was build by little green men?

This post has been edited by SeaGates: Jun 17 2009, 12:44 AM

If there is Alien or UFO visiting earth, under current physics science law, the faster moving speed is light speed, but we haven't discover any planet within several thousand light year away except the solar system.

So either Alien can travel in light speed and they have very long life, or can travel beyond light speed (which dismiss Einstein's theory). So in order to have Alien or UFO, we needs to have either one of it, so that they can reach here.

I am not saying there is no alien existing or other living in the universe, as universe is so big, so we think it is impossibe, only earth got life, right?
But those could be thoousand light year or even more away, which by any means there is no chance to reach under curreny physics law.

The universe is so big, we can't even get out the solar system, not the mention the milky way galaxy which our solar system is a tiny peanut within, while there are many many others galaxy as well.

Michio Kaku(Spelling?), the rather famous physicist of current era. Said that for ET that lives several million light years away from us. At light speed it would take millions of years to reach us. That would make them several millions years more advanced that us. So maybe they've cracked FTL travel, have the technology to traverse deep space with ease, or they're really patient in reaching us

they might as well exploit the usage of wormhole, thus allowing very fast travelling.

So, UFO is quite possible?? Let me show the video.
For me..it's bullcrap Watch here if not working

This post has been edited by Winston LYN: Jun 17 2009, 10:32 AM

Hi there! "cherroy".

Have yu heard of Edgeworth-Kuiper belt?
It is similar to the asteroid belt and it is home to at least three dwarf planets – Pluto, Haumea and Makemake.

Regards, Joey

This post has been edited by Joey Christensen: Jun 17 2009, 01:33 PM

there's not enough published scientific information for this topic to be discussed at length.

most UFO sightings in M'sia were proven to be just reflections of oil rigs/bright lights by clouds.

As said, you need to throw the current physics (light speed in the fastest moving speed can achieve) into dustbin in order them to travel to earth.

I don't say they can't, just we have to rewrite a lot of physics law currently we have if there is.


Regarding ET. Why must every imagination of ET must have eyes, big head, body or a pair of leg? Ain't it is mimic or human imagination only?

Even on earth we have six leg insect, multileg insect, no leg reptile (snake), eight leg octopus, so many many kind life form, why must everyone think ET should be identical to human kind.
It can be in a lot of form if there is a life out there!

This post has been edited by cherroy: Jun 17 2009, 02:23 PM

Well, most sightings has been consistent with this. Big head (smart arse), big eyes (surround view! More input to process more information), small/no mouth (telepathic, no need to tok cock like us), small limbs (no need to work physically hard...got all the techs, why bother with steroid pumped muscles?).

So i believe there's very good reason for what they are. Sure, there may be other life forms, but if they have the brains of a bird, i don't think they're getting off their planets anytime soon, and thus, we don't see those kind.

And yes, i do belive in Aliens, but i'm not conclusive that UFO's are neccessary aliens in a ship. Could be interdimensional creatures or other natural or supernatural phenomena. Or maybe the UFO themselves are living organic/semi-organic creatures. Or maybe human or creatures from another time and dimension....

This post has been edited by Mooshi: Jun 17 2009, 05:56 PM

Why UFO sightings often happen in the West but not in the East??

I don't hear any UFO news in the Asia regions....

It could be because one told the story, then the rest follow the story. In my humble opinion, it is more a human imagination, big brain because they are clever, small limbs because they are smart until don't need physically muscle.
This ET form/build only emerge in 90's if not mistaken, ancient people never talk about or had any history telling what is ET or how ET looked like.

Why must brain at the head? Can be no brain, but nerve interlink across just like jelly fish. Why must they breath oxygen? it is possible to live on carbon dioxide as well like plant.

The way ET being described, it just means people cannot think out of box and everyone just think it must identical to human kind but just different here and there.

Don't mean there is no ET (I also believe there is in somewhere outer space far far away could be million light year), just in my opinion, it is hard to believe universe is so big and every planetory condition is different and there is potential variety of life form as showed at earth as well already. But somehow ET is similar to human kind? which is something is hard to believe, as it is more like hitting a lottery of this probability at least for my view.

B-2 stealth bomber looks like a flying saucer as well.

1) It is fact, not imagination. Bigger brains means more synapes and nerves to do complex processing. That's what differiantiate man to animals. Smarter animals comes with decently sized brains (like dolphins etc), while dumb animals comes with lesser brains. It's like your CPU. A 100 million transistor CPU is definitely more powerful than your 1 million transistor CPU.

2) You are wrong. If you google for aliens or ancient aliens or ancient UFO, you'll find many photos of evidence in forms of paintings and and other inscriptions in tombs and such depicting many UFO-like and Alien like creatures. Back in those days, people don't know what it was and simply assume them as gods/demons/angels and some other supernatural stuff. They also don't have the internet, thus it is impossible for them to share and discuss this phenomena and coins a popular term out of it.

1) I would give you. However this doesn't really mean bigger brains are smarter. There are kids who suffer some sort of weird disease and have a very big head. Are they smarter? Nah. The only thing that makes human smarter is that the brain can have quick synapses, which means other parts of the cell of the brain can quickly communicate to each other.

2)However, there is one thing that really intrigued me during the Aztec's conquest by Cortez. These Aztecs drawings and description about their God Quetzalcoatl looks exactly like Cortez, the spanish conquerer. Descriptions include "A god, wearing long Hat, come by the sea, holding with him a new weapon".

Cortez, were wearing spanish hat, came by the sea and also bringing with him is a rifle. So your second point reminds me of this. Were those ancient Aztecs saw even before Cortez came?

hey... have u guys ever thought what those aliens think of us?

maybe they the 1 that think US the aliens... LOL...

hmm.... somehow, the alien in AVP looks scary...
the predator looks a lot cooler~

Dunno much about UFO. but I heard most sightings in Malaysia are actually not UFOs...but what if UFO really do exist? I mean there gotta be another living organism/creature/etc out there right?

Aliens are real but UFOlogy is a mythology of the space age. Rather than angels ... we now have ... extraterrestrials. It is the product of the creative imagination. It serves a poetic and existential function. It seeks to give man deeper roots and bearings in the universe. It is an expression of our hunger for mystery...our hope for transcendental meaning. The gods of Mt. Olympus have been transformed into space voyagers, transporting us by our dreams to other realms.

The reported perception of an object or light seen in the sky or upon land the appearance, trajectory, and general dynamic and luminescent behavior of which do not suggest a logical, conventional explanation and which is not only mystifying to the original percipients but remains unidentified after close scrutiny of all available evidence by persons who are technically capable of making a common sense identification, if one is possible.

The Drake which was devised by Dr. Frank Drake allows a person to estimate the probability of several factors and come up with a number for say, the number of intelligent civilizations in the galaxy. It includes factors like rate of new star formation, probability of sun-like stars, probability of planets, probability of life, probability of intelligent life, probability of civilization and technology. Another important factor is the lifetime of such civilizations. When you multiply them all together and multiply that times the number of stars in the galaxy, you get a number.

Since some of these probabilities can't be estimated with any degree of reliability, the numbers you get aren't worth much. The doubt is compounded by the fact that there might be factors which are important, but we haven't considered yet, like the importance of the moon in abiogenesis

When all is said and done, you only get a probability, so even if the figures are all good and all factors considered, it could still be way off.

N = R* X fp X ne X fl X fi X fc X L

where

N = The number of communicative civilizations
R* = The rate of formation of suitable stars (stars such as our Sun)
fp = The fraction of those stars with planets. (Current evidence indicates that planetary systems may be common for stars like the Sun.)
ne = The number of Earth-like worlds per planetary system
fl = The fraction of those Earth-like planets where life actually develops
fi = The fraction of life sites where intelligence develops
fc = The fraction of communicative planets (those on which electromagnetic communications technology develops)
L = The "lifetime" of communicating civilizations

Frank Drake's own current solution to the Drake Equation estimates 10,000 communicative civilizations in the Milky Way. Dr. Drake, who serves on the SETI League's advisory board, has personally endorsed SETI's planned all-sky survey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

This post has been edited by transhumanist92: Jun 19 2009, 04:18 AM