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BJTOTO (1562), High Dividend Yielding Stock
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Darkmage12
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Nov 27 2009, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Nov 27 2009, 12:59 PM) They only give share dividend every 3-4 years.... even this coming divvy wont be much, because they already paid in advance 19c for FY2010. The average payout per year is around 28c, which means there is only 9cents left for the remaining 2 quarters of FY2010... if we are lucky, we may get 4 or 5 cents for this quarter and next... even that also depends on their profit..  well if you bought it some time ago you would be getting dividend for an investment which basically cost nothing when they distributed bunch of capital repayment right? anyway I see that you hold alot of dividend stocks
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Darkmage12
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Nov 28 2009, 03:34 PM
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the dividend in 2003 was capital repayment right? anyone on the legalizing of TOTO to muslim states must see the state government I think and you know the roti canai party sure cannot one la
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Darkmage12
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Nov 28 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 28 2009, 04:17 PM) Thanks now i know the answer where the 170 cents come from already But i still have doubts on the sustainability of the DPS as the EPS was always lower than DPS. Yes indeed as I have hold it for years  QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 28 2009, 08:03 PM) For 6/49 and 6/52 the maximum accumulated amount will be RM 30 Million whereas Power toto doesn't have limit. Between, Let say 6/49 and 6/52 reach its maximum the RM 30 MILLION will be absorb by the company (bjtoto or government) ? FYI 6/52 doesn't have limit already..... but ever since the 20M limit was reached several months ago..... and then another one was snowballed, the 15m mark have not been breached. Earlier when it reaches the limit, the money will be put into another new pot.
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Darkmage12
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Nov 29 2009, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 29 2009, 12:26 PM) Darkmage thanks a lot for your answer really appreciate that But from my previous figures posted the total DPS is much more higher than EPS can you explain for me? Is As i know there are capital repayment of 170 per share on 2003 (explain by you) and there is also another capital repayment on 2005 OF 50 sen per share funded from the share capital. Between are there any share split during 2003 ? Base on my calculation there should be a share split on 2003. Correct me if wrong. And what do you mean by new pot? Well one thing I can tell you is that iirc earlier TOTO loan alot of money to other companies under the Berjaya Group. As such some shareholders were very unhappy as they might not own every listed stock. After some restructuring TOTO got back their money so they could pay out those extra share. I can't remember if there is any split but I can try to find out. You also have alot of BJTOTO huh  care to share how many you own?
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(Xeraph @ Nov 30 2009, 06:28 PM) i don't think it pays dividend ahead of earnings. announcement of dividends is always on the same day as results. except for the latest "future dividend". btw darknight, don't think you should be too optimistic on 6/55 no doubt you have a higher minimum payout, but at the end of the day it still comes to the question who currently has the biggest payout. Well iirc the biggest payout was the 20M by 6/52 so far 6/55 haven't reach that far but at least 50% of the pot will be taken away
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(pete999 @ Nov 30 2009, 08:16 PM) The best dividend counter in malaysia. I wouldn't say it's the best but among the best
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(pete999 @ Nov 30 2009, 08:23 PM) siao lien eh, zho lang mai ahneh hau lien. kong lai kong ki, lu mah si jit jiak yeow siu kia. tui choo kio lu eh lau peh hoh hoh eh ka lu, ha mi si MANNERS LMFAO not saying you ok? you hokkien lang? come spam at our hokkien thread la say is me kao siao one QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 30 2009, 08:29 PM) So you are the one who sold me RM 4.27 What is your reason for not adding anymore on this counter? Added on November 30, 2009, 8:33 pmBest dividend counter for sure is not as i have a another counter which yield better than BJTOTO. Furthermore, i think that the management is just OK. VT is not shrewd business man but i bet that he will not dare to do much harm on BJTOTO as it is his cash generator. VT got connections but well the management is so so and earlier that someone did mention his inter company debt was really  Maybe he feels it's enough for him
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(pete999 @ Nov 30 2009, 08:45 PM) i lol at that sentence not u, sounds like sabah hokien. This counter eats capital at rm4+.. and its not moving a lot. good for slow and steady investors. bro is penang hokkien. Well what can I say when all the dividends im getting now is basically for free as I have recoup my investment cost
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 30 2009, 09:01 PM) Hey brother how many units you are holding ?? I'll pm you the figure. Added on November 30, 2009, 9:16 pmQUOTE(pete999 @ Nov 30 2009, 09:03 PM) ty a lot, base on current klse senario, seriously considering change of game plan, will buy some for sure. what's ur earlier game plan? This post has been edited by Darkmage12: Nov 30 2009, 09:16 PM
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 30 2009, 09:22 PM) I want to see if Toto is losing market share or not, especially to Magnum. I think the general punter's view is that it is easier to strike Magnum's jackpot. If you're a punter, would you buy from a NFO that is easier to strike, or harder to strike? This is my main concern now. High payout might hamper Magnum as well
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(pete999 @ Nov 30 2009, 09:27 PM) The best time to buy stock is after financial crisis, and get undervalued stocks, well made some lose some, now back to the drawing board due to some losses contra. i made that choice and i blame no one except myself...15k gone But im still strong and going, just need 1 counter to conquer them all.  very cek ak ah you.... haven't lost on contra yet  Well not everytime you can buy a stock after financial crisis. there are always gems out there
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 30 2009, 09:33 PM) Share with you guys my simple analysis for Power Toto.  Where cannot find also.... Power Toto the snowball so slow means less people buying it
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Darkmage12
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Nov 30 2009, 11:37 PM
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Er what's ur pdf about? the payout?
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Darkmage12
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Dec 1 2009, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Dec 1 2009, 05:31 PM) Haiz punters will always be punters. Though asking them to do that would be like asking them to use 1st prize money to win consolation money.  Speculation is also betting
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Darkmage12
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Dec 3 2009, 10:11 PM
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You think it will drop to RM4?
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Darkmage12
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Dec 3 2009, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 3 2009, 10:39 PM) MPHB BJTOTO you must not fail me !!!  You not getting MPHB also?
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Darkmage12
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Dec 4 2009, 08:22 AM
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Tanjong is too diversified so Da Ma Cai performance will not be easily shown through it
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Darkmage12
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Dec 5 2009, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 4 2009, 06:36 PM) Yup 100% ytl power now  No regrets for dumping all my bjtoto no need look back one.. BJTOTO treasury shares already almost kosong.....Cash also almost kosong thats y need to loan RM 380 Million to pay dividend of 19 sen.... Very very high possibilities to dip below RM 3.80  ..... If i not wrong the highest dividend bjtoto share holders can get should be 7 to 8 sens only for 2010 unless they taking another loan But for those who bought last time is ok as they already got all those dividends and capital repayment but not for those who just entered recently  lol my shares are free
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Darkmage12
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Dec 5 2009, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 5 2009, 10:17 PM) Yup thats what i meant for those long term shareholders like you are totally different case.  Hope nothing goes wrong..... I'm looking at other growth stocks now
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Darkmage12
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Dec 14 2009, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(calmwater @ Dec 13 2009, 03:20 AM) and investors all over the world can invest all over the world  Investors from BTOTO can pull out and invest in Timbuktu and people in Timbuktu can invest in BTOTO.  Number of investors in the world are increasing by the day, especially china and india with billions of people and standard of living improving by the day. I think in this day and time there are more people investing than just saving money with the bank and hiding the passbook under the pillow. Even students are playing the stock market, the char kueh teow seller, cendol seller, rojak seller, fish monger, pasar malam trader and ..............and.................. Money is moving at the speed of light.  Hopefully our Gomen can wake up (overslept for too long already) and get the attention of foreign investors so the  can flow in. Timbuktu? a plant or a country in Africa? Anyway it's true that there are more and more investors.....should call them speculators actually or gambling
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