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yngwie
post Feb 16 2011, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 15 2011, 11:52 PM)
mua haha... 18" don have??? 
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i even saw a 21" no brand(blank) tire on Beemer X6. size in whites was clearly stated 265/45/r21 sweat.gif
here is indeed a heaven for those few manufacturer producing tire with no progressive 'steering feel', AA traction while tire skid here and there doh.gif
also, a 480 rated tread wear which surpassed the ATR Sports' 400 tongue.gif
gonna go for a round again this evening. perhaps, i could take a pics' of the collection. the other day the owner so 'lcly' can't take
pics' without buying.

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post Feb 17 2011, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 16 2011, 10:59 AM)
S1 EVO sidewall softer than RE001.

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Even though the RE001 is 50 profile,
but it definitely harder than S1 EVO...
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even the famed ad07 had a slightly softer sidewall compare to re001(at least side from side by side comparison). then again, the now out of production
ad07 is more expensive. re001 gotta be the best bang for bucks.
it's wet traction and grip is somehow better than other higher rating tire. but my re001 reaching 70% of tread usage tend to be noisy.
bushes / arms / wheel bearing is barely few month old. so, i guess the noise is down to the tire.


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post Feb 17 2011, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 17 2011, 09:31 AM)
well all tires after 50% usage will tends to make noise lo... so really depends on individual...
some ppl change only reaching indicator while some change when they felt irritating on the noise...
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exactly! that's why i used to change my tire once it goes below 65% or so. beside still command a good used tire price, market demand is there brows.gif


QUOTE(nightzstar @ Feb 17 2011, 06:14 PM)
new cheapo china tires. damn, i ask for other tires they don't have. only china tires got 15". that shop really sucks. gonna change my tires soon. any recommended brand? just want silent tires only.
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if am not mistaken, most of the tire offered by other than the big player manufacturer are of directional tread which tend to be noisy.
wanli, gt radial , accelera, achilles, thunderer, nangkang.... they share the same directional tread in common. asymmetric shape does available
but quite less.
falken ze912 is fine but it wear out faster. if you're not into spirited driving, yokohama a.drive or c.drive is fine. even the bridgestone playz is okay for leisure driving style.
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post Feb 19 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Feb 19 2011, 10:05 AM)
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yokohama c drive 2 out ledi
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with extra load rating some more. tread looks quieter compare to the old one but not sure how it will perform compare to the old model.
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post Feb 19 2011, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(LY123 @ Feb 19 2011, 08:21 PM)
I have done Alignment + Balancing + All tyres change here today at

Tek Ming Auto Service Sdn Bhd
Bandar Sunway, Selangor, Malaysia
  No. 1 & 3 Jalan PJS 11/24, Bandar Sunway, 46150 Petaling Jaya,...
But after first alignment I drive the car going left..I returned to your shop and did second time same thing happened =(  I am very disappointed with the service provided....
Should I go for third time tomorrow or jus change to other shop =( money wasted..I spend extra RM60 to repair the sport rim some more... other than buy 4 new tyres =( =( =(
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what is your ride? could be the worn out steering bush? else, swaying left on straight while hands off the steering is common for myvi thou.
free alignment at perodua sc.

QUOTE(Daniel's @ Feb 19 2011, 08:24 PM)
Anybody had experience with Pace tyres?Going to change to 17 inch next month.
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huh! pace tire? made in china with very visible 'burger like' joint marks tongue.gif
i reckoned 17" should be in the region of 2xx which is damn cheap. i remember testing the tire once for drift. due to cost constraint.
bought in port dickson area. worst handling and grip. also no progressive steering feel at all. but at least it did not burst.
tire sidewall become bulging after only a session.
if you're on tight budget, i suggest you take a look at the achilles atr sport which is just marginally expensive.
no compromise on safety icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(harryfoo @ Feb 19 2011, 08:32 PM)
But wider tyres better grip right?
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fyi, grip is mainly determined by tire compound / material. ie; 195 width of michelin ps3 has had a better grip compare with 205 width of
goodyear nct5 smile.gif same goes to wet driving. the wider the tire, the more it prone to aquaplaning. unless the tread is design to disperse water effectively.
wider tire may give you a slightly better handling but the improvements is negligible on thicker tire profile due sidewall flexing.
as long as your upgrade is within 3% of the original size, different in speedometer reading, braking capability, acceleration and fc is also almost negligible.
make sure to choose the right tire.

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QUOTE(LY123 @ Feb 19 2011, 08:50 PM)
Proton savvy sad.gif
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any excessive freeplay on the steering? or do you always turn your steering in full till you hear the rubber sound?
if the alignment is done properly yet problem still persist, final suspect is down to the steering bush.
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post Mar 4 2011, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Mar 4 2011, 02:44 PM)
Besides this two, any other? Budget RM1200 Max for 4 pcs.  cry.gif
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what is your criteria / preference?
yokohama a.drive r1 is too basic tongue.gif i'd rather get the china made kumho ku-36 over it. cost is only rm225 each from the tire shop in maluri.
else, kumho ecsta ku-31. cost around rm245 but that was last year pricing.
i tested the achilles atr a few month back. cost rm199 each with 420 tread wear and deep directional tread. also, performance is acceptable
on normal driving style but less progressive steering feel and lesser grip too.

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post Mar 5 2011, 05:31 PM

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tested a staff's car fitted with Dunlop LM-903 or something. made in Indonesia(directional tread like Federal pattern). tire only 2 months old with 95% of tread but the wind noise is very obvious. also, tread wear is a mere 200! high speed progressive steering feel is gone too.

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post Mar 6 2011, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(h4dRi @ Mar 5 2011, 05:49 PM)
meaning can hear wind noise because tire very silent or tire produce wind noise?  rclxub.gif
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additional wind noise generated by the tire's tread pattern. which affect the nvh.
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not sure about old vios but a friend here(kk) is driving a vios with 205/50/r16 tire with stock spring and absorber.
according to him, he changed the wheels at the showroom. so, he could not comment on the fc / acceleration and speedo reading sweat.gif
so far he had no issue(tire hitting fender with full load) with it. my take: his acceleration / fc and speedo is affected.
even the speedo reading does not match the 'speed feeling' gauge tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2011, 07:57 AM

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correction**
the dunlop tire model was of sp sport fm901. beside being noisy, the tire is hopeless in corner. does not match the name. even with higher pressure pumped.
tested a staff's car again yesterday evening for a ride. tire flex like no tomorrow. a steering correction is require to counter the tire flexing even when going at relatively low 80km/h on corner sweat.gif
even the c.drive peform a lot better in term of handling.
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post Mar 8 2011, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ Mar 7 2011, 09:42 PM)
how come the stock tyre in Kia forte 17 inch is so lousy?
Any recommendation what tyre to change to fully absorb potholes/bump?

Drive through bump also no feeling.
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yours is 1.6 or 2.0? for those model with mdps, recalibration at service center may require if the tire changes was of different profile / width.
forte was designed for comfort. not for handling.
you can choose any of the tire recommended by micheal.
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even tire wear / pressure all round? good condition steering bush / bushes? even height setting on adjustable's spring?

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QUOTE(kobe10 @ Mar 15 2011, 07:52 AM)
Also any good place to do alignment and chamber setting around klang valley?
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drive further down from racing z to balakong. u-turn just after the jusco cheras selatan and exactly opposite( jusco) there is a silverstone tire/motorsport or something.
they are doing manual alignment. i used to frequent the shop last year. so far result has been great. 1st come 1st serve basis.


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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Mar 16 2011, 10:53 AM)
wat is d best tyre pressure for 215/45/17 tyre?
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anything from 210 to 230 kpa is fine.depending on your preference / purpose. 20kpa higher than the manufacturer recommendation is fine.
my 225/45/27 is set at 230kpa. i know a few golf and mini owner which pumped as high as 250 kpa.
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QUOTE(kobe10 @ Apr 15 2011, 02:31 PM)
Hey Michael, would like to ask if Bridgestone RE001 thread life. Is it worst? I am using v8 now. 6 months finish. I city drive a lot. But also need some grippy tyres.
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answering on behalf oh him . was using re001 on my main ride. i could say very aggressive highway driving. after clocking close to 30k km with about 45% tread left, sold the tire at 90 bucks each, which is well worth it. tire last longer in city driving compare to constant highway driving.
good thing about re001, it doesn't flex during extreme cornering. direct and progressive steering feel too. as a user of ps3 tire as well, i was surprised re001 give a more composed ride during downpour. perhaps, this is due to re001 being heavier than ps3.
btw, for city driving, i suggest you take a look at ps3, s.drive or v12, they're far more comfortable.

re001's sidewall is just too hard. coupled with a hard suspension, kl road potholes , speed bumps and you may say goodbye to your arm bushes / rubber parts on mounting.. a lot sooner! smile.gif

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Apr 16 2011, 11:18 AM)
Good answer... But I'm surprise leh, y all ppl told me v12 n v8rs cannot last???
I think the main reason is the pressure, my 2 set of v12 last leh... The recent set I bought at Jan 11 and now it has not even wear 30% also... My car is heavy hatchback 1.3ton, tire pressure maintain at 35psi and above for front but for the rear is around 32psi...
Maybe they all can drive 40k km half yearly... Not sure...
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yeah! a lot of user using 'months' calculation instead of mileage covered. tire pressure is indeed important.
from my experience, coupled with a good tire, on constant abuse, nitrogen filling could last at 35psi for about 5 months!

QUOTE(kobe10 @ Apr 16 2011, 12:43 PM)
federal 595 evo good?
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a good buy! that is if you can stand the wind noise generated by the tread pattern. not as noisy as
dunlop fm901 which has the similar tread characteristic thou.

QUOTE(Zaypher @ Apr 16 2011, 11:48 AM)
bro this is what I am looking for bro for my daily driven car. I don't care about comfort and noise, just gimme the grip. I'll just nurse it to and fro work and let it loose sometimes....
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if it was mainly for city drive, you better think twice. but for 'tauge' purpose, re001 is top notch.
it stay planted at 170km/h in slightly winding and wet road on mex highway heading towards salak south toll. brows.gif
re001 is quiet but if you're on hard adjustable suspension or sports spring, at times, ride can be too bumpy.
as mentioned, it will affect your bushes in the long run. unless you're going very slow on the potholes.
good thing, a used re001 tire always maintain its value smile.gif


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kumho ecsta ku-31 is definitely a value buy. tried the tire last year. recommended for its price.
that time 205/45/16 is only around 238 a piece. bought somewhere in subang. noise level is still acceptable.

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Apr 21 2011, 09:08 AM)
or your exhaust is more louder... tongue.gif
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it was the ps-powersport blow off which made the loudest sound. exhaust setup never fail jpj inspection tongue.gif
btw, do you ever heard of alignment problem while using the ventus v8 tire? a friend back in just bought the tire and his after fitting, his car's alignment run. was fine when it was on dunlop d01.
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he told me, foreman already swap among 4 side. even weighed the fitted wheels for weight different.
better but still tend to sway to the left.
btw, i never had problem with directional tread tires.

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