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AMD/ATI Radeon™ HD 4000 Series Discussion v6, The time moves on..Prepare HD5000 Series
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 01:33 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(aichiban @ Apr 30 2009, 11:21 AM) watever the calculations watever the maths watever CF or not OC or not watever heat or waltage Performance wise, get 4850 Price wise, get 4770and everyone live happily ever after speaking of delusional confidenceAt least not for me
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 07:03 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(kenz002 @ Apr 30 2009, 06:46 PM) Sorry.. crossfire means wat? u know what is dual core or quad core for processor right? well, u can do the same for graphic card. crossfire is ATI's trademark name for combining 2 or 3 or even 4 graphic cards to increase a rig's graphic processing power   
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 07:05 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(kenz002 @ Apr 30 2009, 07:03 PM) So in order to play game smoothly in 1920 resolution, wat is the minimum GC ? 4870? depends on what game. games such as crysis definitely will be a NO. but other games, maybe yes and yes
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 07:52 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(kenz002 @ Apr 30 2009, 07:09 PM) Sorry u mean even HD 4870 oso not good enuf to play all game in 1920 reso? 4870 can play MOST games in 1920x1080 reso, but games such as far cry 2. crysis, stalker clear sky may not be playable at that reso Added on April 30, 2009, 7:54 pmQUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Apr 30 2009, 07:34 PM) metsatsu, any difference between sapphire reference board HD4890 in red pcb and blue pcb? Cause the one i bought today is blue instead of red pcb colour. Anyway, anyone had tried overclocking hd4890 to the max (stable)? what? could that be vapour-X?? mind to take a picture? does it look this?? This post has been edited by metsatsu: Apr 30 2009, 08:05 PM
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 07:55 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(kenz002 @ Apr 30 2009, 07:54 PM) oH IC IC.. SO such games can oni be played in wat reso ya? i mean the max reso.. well obviously the lower the better loh. u can adjust the setting in the game.
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 08:09 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(kuance @ Apr 30 2009, 08:05 PM) WOW.....tat 4890 CF seems to be real juice!!!.... i think nothing can beat 4890 CF for now... I wouldn't bet on that...
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 08:19 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Apr 30 2009, 08:15 PM) Nope, it look like this  Any clue? eh...... not a clue... but my guess would be just merely different batch? maybe it's the same board that's being used for vapour-X? Try to oc it and see how it goes Added on April 30, 2009, 8:23 pmQUOTE(HL Milk @ Apr 30 2009, 08:16 PM) This is a Factory OC card of 4890 to 1000/1050Mhz (Core/Memory), i wonder how's the tempereature. Can it be further OC by user?  the vapour-X cooler is famous for its superior cooling efficiency. just look at this screenshot from techpowerup This post has been edited by metsatsu: Apr 30 2009, 08:23 PM
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 09:40 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Apr 30 2009, 09:33 PM) wat the???? im using 4850, using resolution 1920X1080 with mainstream settings.. just beautiful it is.. no lagging@ or watever.. of coz u can play with that resolution... im playing crysis warhead with mainstream setting, but other games im using full setting like far cry2, gta4, cod5, hawx, grid and other games. crysis is different coz it a games with need high requirements. that why the optimal setting for crysis using 4850 is mainstream. if u want to use gamer@ enthusiat, i think there will be low frame rate or even lagging. oops my bad then, I was referring to enthusiast setting (aka ultra high setting)  and yes, at enthusiast setting, it will bring your gc to its knee begging for mercy
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 10:57 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Apr 30 2009, 10:41 PM) i use 19 inch LCd monitor at 1440x900. i want play crysis at full setting with AA and Af turn on. the question is...can hd4850 do this job at 6+ fps? processor is intel E7400 2.8ghz and 2gb pc6400 ram. 6+ fps? I think even 4550 can handle also lol
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 11:24 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Apr 30 2009, 11:06 PM) sory typo... supposing you guys get what i mean. it is >60fps anyway can or not if u put on ultra high setting, then obviously it's a NO. next setting down also barely touch 60fps. if u tune down the details further then it's kinda pointless playing crysis without all the graphic details isn't it?
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metsatsu
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Apr 30 2009, 11:45 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Apr 30 2009, 11:38 PM) okay...if not 60+fps what fps will HD4850 run with all the eye candy turned on at 1440x900? expect 10-30fps bro...
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metsatsu
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May 1 2009, 08:54 AM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(kuance @ May 1 2009, 08:48 AM) @XiuKeong, u are using a 19' wide screen? if so, ur game cant push the resolution very high, so using 4870 will be overkill. (correct me if i am wrong) Maybe 4850 or 4770 is enuf for nowaday high end game on ur monitor wif high setting already... wait u got enuf money one day... CF it : ) and change ur monitor 4870 will be just nice la bro. it never hurts to get extra 10-20fps more than the monitor refresh rate Added on May 1, 2009, 8:55 amQUOTE(aichiban @ May 1 2009, 02:03 AM) the difference in pricing is pretty much obvious there no matter what ppl believe in I think you're the only person who's believing in that This post has been edited by metsatsu: May 1 2009, 08:55 AM
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metsatsu
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May 1 2009, 09:35 AM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(kuance @ May 1 2009, 09:16 AM) yeah it is not a hurt to get a 4870 but ever think of the price? if u r rich...then i gonna be speechless... but if u are limited with ur budget...then 4850 will just do fine... @metsatsu, it is impossible in betwwen 4850 and 4870 will have a 10-20 fps diff..k Added on May 1, 2009, 9:17 amis that true???! sound card can help in fps too?? did i say 10-20fps more than 4850? or 10-20fps more than MONITOR REFRESH RATE? read carefully.. k This post has been edited by metsatsu: May 1 2009, 09:37 AM
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metsatsu
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May 1 2009, 01:22 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 1 2009, 10:34 AM) u seems to always pointing at reviews n graphs n reviews n graphs pointed out at leat 2-3% of difference a difference is a difference no? Difference in FPS/price ratio, that's what we all have been referring to. you just don't get it, do you? You are paying almost extra RM100 to 4850 just for that little 2-3% difference, now if you tell me that is worth it then i end my argument right here. difference in price does not necessary speaks for the same performance difference....
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metsatsu
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May 1 2009, 11:50 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ May 1 2009, 11:28 PM) yes decided already. tomorrow at 10am will COD. second hand item only. wait until i upload the pic what series it is. so what is it that you are getting then?
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metsatsu
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May 2 2009, 04:53 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 2 2009, 01:29 PM) if i wan better performance, of coz i will have to fork out more same extra premiums for imported cars so u can end ur "argument" now This has never been an argument from the beginning. Just trying to help a person out of his delusional state. Well, at least now im not wasting anymore of my time alrdy This post has been edited by metsatsu: May 2 2009, 04:58 PM
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metsatsu
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May 2 2009, 06:02 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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Like he said, let's end the 'argument' right here right now
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metsatsu
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May 2 2009, 08:16 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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Just look for the minimum power requirement in google bro. U will get the general idea.
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metsatsu
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May 2 2009, 11:44 PM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ May 2 2009, 09:19 PM) may i know what is the probably price for HD4870 512mb 2nd hand unit ? u should be able to get a 2nd hand 4870 512mb below RM700. RM600-650 would be just nice
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metsatsu
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May 3 2009, 08:56 AM
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Chocolate Starfish
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QUOTE(PoorMe @ May 3 2009, 02:05 AM) Hey bro, don 4get new unit is only RM715... since u mentioned that, then RM600 or below for 2nd hand unit should be just about right
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