if budget ddr3 the msi c45 is the best atleast can oc better..
but no heatsink huhu..

it's not just few pages.. it's from few previous version...

yes.. everybody is right, but i'm more to visit to dig the info regarding OC.. but failed to the death..
if u really think that talking about things not related to the topic will do good maybe can go to kopitiam or something..

it's about sharing a good info not only make community with full of spams..
please at least think what i'm saying..

yes phenom II is different..
ur using unlocked X2 or quad?

rule u need to follow don't exceed the htt beyond the NB core..

come on don't get me wrong..
it's about respect..
we need to respect the seniors..
we need to respect the juniors..
we also need to respect the stalkers..

i won't see many enthusiast want to share their knowledge here.. (becoz full of spams)
sure must be a hard day for a new comer to learn a beauty of OC amd.. (becoz hard to get the info)

no offence..

@mruzian..
do you check HTT n NB core clock?
actually 3.8ghz is quite good edy.. maybe the cpu itself reached the limit

this came from readings and understanding of full of joys n happiness..
takes u years to master..

BSOD - NB/IMC related
Black screen - CPU related (now maybe not see - lol)
Log windows/crash - temperature related
POST/boot - RAM related
Stability - voltage related

so now.. copy n paste..
and dig some info..

of course all of them are related.. but it's the main focus that can cause the prob..

normally at first stage i'll make sure my ram is capable of doing certain speed/timing with accurate voltage.. i'll make it as stable as stock speed..

then only play with HTT and other voltages..

u need to understand ur setup.. especially the mobo.. some not convenience with certain HTT n dividers.. no one can tell unless u tried..

for the second step i'll push the mobo to the limit..
with all the variables.. only then can seek the true potential of ur proc..

if some how or rather u stuck to which part to tweak and boost the performance.. just check on the list below sort with priority:
(as some cpu came with different mul n potential)
- CPU frequency
- IMC frequency
- Memory frequency
- HT Link frequency
- HTT frequency

just remember that HTT Link Freq =< NB Freq

u will find the arts where the high value/clock in amd gain no benefit later..
amd created their proc for being efficient.. high clock (not cpu clock) doesn't mean good..

it's more likely NB-cpu, that's the magic we need to dig..
as IMC is embedded to the cpu itself..

the voltage control should be separated..
it's take the same voltage supplied to the cpu.. what if actually the IMC doesn't need it? more or less we force them to die fast..
that's why acc remain in mystery which i think it's directly affect that parts...

yup only the recent.. just that how acc works.. still being untold..

Gigabyte Fights Back

lol the best part..

"The secondary BIOS chip will still backup your BIOS as usual, but have room for the old AMD microcode. When you update your BIOS, your system will boot using the new BIOS code but it will be injected with the old AMD microcode, allowing you to continue to unlock your CPU cores."

This post has been edited by 8tvt: Jun 25 2009, 05:39 PM

so nice.. some report 0921 can unlock..

so chance is bigger here flooded with 0920 could be 0921 as well..
go here for more..
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=227004

u got the answer..

sometimes when u leave the advance ram timing in auto.. it will tight the timing..
thus can caused stability prob..
u need to manually set them better..

normally check the
PL
TRFC

u need to peek the memset..
timing depends on ram..
PL 10-15
TRFC 45-65

tight it more better..

in intel though..

base on ur luck..
IINM mine default
PL 12-15
TRFC 55-64

see how i tight them..
loose them first to make it stable..
tRDD - >4 and other timing too..
(some bios diff name)

then push the proc to the limit.. after that.. there's no way stability issue coz of ram.. it's either the proc.. or the htt/divider limit by mobo..

i never set it at windows.. just to view only..
all timings done @ bios..

let's make more pening to decide...
n why some system.. less bandwidth is better..
for gaming system.. i would choose bigger bandwidth..

DDR 800
2.5ns each tick clock
CL 3
= 7.5 latency

DDR 800
2.5ns each tick clock
CL 4
= 10 latency

DDR 900
2.2ns each tick clock
CL 4
= 8.8 latency

DDR 950
2.1ns each tick clock
CL 4
= 8.4 latency

DDR 1000
2.0ns each tick clock
CL 4
= 8 latency

DDR 1000
2.0ns each tick clock
CL 5
= 10 latency

*note - no AL involve...

my d9gkx can do
DDR800 CL3
DDR1000 CL4

with average DDR2 better still 9XX with CL4 is achievable..
if reaching 980 need CL5 better choose 960 CL4

feed them as they pleased
2.1v is ok..
2.2v is the max safe daily usage for DDR2..

come on DDR1 also 2.6v lol
n some freak push >3.5v

that's because the game structure/developer n the 32bit system limitation..
64bit is way to move..

n new intel is for that purpose.. large scale more bandwidth which normal users no need.. unless games make that way..