Looking @ the Civic 2.0 ..... and compared with this .... looks like Civic is not so great any more.

IMO, in the Honda series like city/civic/Accord, Civic is the most overprice with its quality it has.

It is like the mini version of Mazda6. but still design wise, I think the M6 still look better.

If only they sell 10-20K cheaper, then they will really treaten Honda/Toyota. But we all know Vincent Tan stuffs wont be cheap.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 9 2009, 06:20 PM

I feel happy everytime I am looking @ my M6 2.5.

1st even it is slightly older, still look sportier and better than M3.
2nd It is smiling @ me.

I havent got time to look up the M3, but design wise it is very good. btw, does the Timesquare roadshow still going on? I hope is not another 3days showcase. I hate to go showroom with salesman keep disturbing me with *how the car is good etc.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 14 2009, 02:43 PM

Agree resale value wouldnt matter if u plan to use your car >5 years. After 5 years the resale value difference will be very little. A Good car will keep a driver happy for at least 5 years. If he sell his car <5years not because of financial prob, it only means that driver are not happy with the car. If thats the case why buy the car at the first place

I planned to use my car at least 7-8years or may be 10years. I am not going to feed the Gov with Huge car Tax every 2-3years by changing new car. My money is better to feed myself than those politic pigs.

If u are > 50years old u may think Camry look better. If you are 20-30years old youngster, Mazda3 will look better than camry.

on top of that, if u really want to compare like that, it is best to compare Mazda6 2.5L, which look even sportier and better than mazda3.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 15 2009, 06:47 PM

that is still only <15% more than ur budget. If u are getting a M6 2.0, u might as well sticking back to M3 2.0, although it is slightly smaller in size, but not A LOT smaller but there is a huge diff in features.

We are talking about Malaysia Market and is Stock version from Manufacturer for local market. It is about comparing Stock Ver. Toyota Camry Malaysia vs Stock Ver. Mazda3.

Well this is Malaysia, we got expensive cars, overpriced local cars, inefficient Gov servant, Stupid internet, Stupid Astro.

Basically the current price of Mazda3 is hugely affected by the import tax.

Sadly they dont have people in that understand whats the meaning of volume sales.

You do know that most public think the brand "Toyota/Honda" worth a lot more. Why, it is because of the Brand. These 2 brands in local are popular, and up until today, I have yet to see a TV ads about Mazda3 & 6. I have seen city/vios, Accord, Camry. but Not cars from Mazda even the ads in newspaper are fall lesser than Honda/Toyota. Bermaz Marketing people are sleeping.

I am a Mazda6 owner, if not because of the roadshow @ Berjaya Times Square last time. I wouldnt even know Mazda6 got a new car. You can imaging how bad their marketing is.

It is true that the spec is decent, but 130K on a not so popular brand in Malaysia seems to hard to justify for average driver(who dont give a damn about those features). If Mazda really want to capture the local market share, they really should have selling @ the same price or close to Honda/Toyota, plus a little bit more of advertising. Right now they are increasing the price which just killing themselves.

The sudden high demand of Mazda3 ending up waiting 3/4 months is just temp after that it is cool down. Because these early bird group people are smart enough to notice the different Mazda between Honda/Toyota, and pick the car of their choice. Lets see how mazda3 do in another 6-9months.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 18 2009, 05:06 PM

Jchue73 is saying the truth, all the service centre are not 1st class. You just have to get lucky, from my experience, sometimes I go early become the 1st customer walk in the day. I endup getting my car service done pretty quick. Sometimes it takes 2-3hours. or even 4 hours. It is just random.


As for reliability it is the same old problem. things that come from local spoil first. I do have problems with my Car sensor, which is locally assembled. But Mazda6 got me fix the problem Free of charge under warranty. Up untill now I have no problem at all.

You are in Malaysia, fuel consumption wont matter, fuel is cheap here. What matter most is the price of the car u gonna buy.

It is still cheaper to buy a car that is priced 100K lower but consume twice as much fuel.

Well on resale value wise, I would say Mazda still have slight better resale value than the Peugeot. Mainly because 1st it is CBU and secondly as what you said a Japs car having better resale value. if you ask me I would say save another 20K and go for that mazda 2.0 or u wait for another 6 months take the showroom unit or hope there is a second hand for sale. Mazda 1.6 is just too overpricing. Later if u want to resale just the lack of features, much smaller engine alone can easily kill the resale value by a wide margin. if I got a Mazda3 2.0 I probably able to boost the engine size + the features it has as my main selling point. The features of Mazda3 2.0 is probably still going to be as good as others for the next 3 years, so it is still makes sense to customer even after 3years.
Part of the reason I dont know why Malaysian bother resale value unless they plan to change car every 3-5years. Even after 5 years, the diff probably is about 5-10K only. Civic might be better resale value but lets not forget that there is also enough civic for sale too. So civic owner cannot hold their price too high, because across the street, there is also a few similar civics for sale too.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 23 2009, 08:47 AM

The look of EvoX is ugly enough to reject me. All the older generation Evo seems to look a lot better than the EvoX.

For your info the interactive screen in mazda3 just looks as good or better than my mazda6. but for the steering I am still prefer my Mazda6 steering. Well thats comparing the interior designs.

Many of us Mazda6 owner here is 2.5, including myself. If u ask me, until today I am still playing with my car's features, especially the keyless entry. So the features in mazda3 2.0 makes alot of sense in your every day drive.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 25 2009, 10:32 AM

yup it is pretty bad without those 2 thing. Those 2 come in very handy for your everyday drive. Something I have been keep wondering why would the local version is always a cut down version compared to foreign one?

here is the local spec for mazda3
http://202.43.44.109/$sitepreview/maz...om.my/spec.html


and btw mazda 3 1.6 is 4 speed auto while the 2.0 is 5 speed auto.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 25 2009, 09:04 PM

basically that keyless + push start button combo is the best feature of my car. I can unlock/open my car door in STYLE. I can Start my car in STYLE. STYLE is all that what you need. A Stylish car with a stylish way to use it.

If i ask me the 2.0 M6 aint sporty by much. You need quite a bet of minor mod especially the car RIM, which is simply ugly and unacceptable. or u can save another 6months- 1year and just get 2.5 M6

Tbh, even my M6 2.5 RIM doesnt look nice to me either. Might change it, after 2-3years

This post has been edited by billytong: Sep 2 2009, 09:30 PM

You can discuss about Mazda6 HERE.

The current thread is all about Mazda3.

As far as I know there is a Mazda6 thread in this forum. Just did a search button for u

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=733910&hl=

Days ago I saw a mazda6 2.5L Sept 2008 22K miledge selling @ 149K from thestar newspaper.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jan 14 2010, 01:27 PM

I think acceleration of a car is rather important when considering the amount of traffic lights we have in our normal everyday city drive.

But in the end it wouldnt matter much because the number of road hogs hogging the right lane of the road or the road have a lot of "traps", bad design of road like the one in mont kiara--> segambut where center divider is facing the right lane of the road at the junction. LOL