Guys, i believe you guys are actually compare the performance on the car, and no fight, Mazda 3 2.0L or 1.6L didnt provide good pick up, refer to the torgue you will know since civic 2.0 and lancer 2.0 can provide slightly higher torgue, so pick up is fast. Just my 2 cents, I didnt really found Altis 1.8 can compare to mazda 3 2.0L because Toyota car always go for comfortable level, and it is not for sporty racing, so I guess we should say Altis provided more comfortable level compared to Mazda 3 itself.
However, how fast can drive depend on the driver, if those cars are in similar range, let's compare this c-segment car, i didnt think all cars take any advantages, the reason being is all cars are having its own strength and weakness. And in my choice, I think the best C-segment Japan car so far only Lancer 2.0, Civic 2.0 and Mazda 3 2.0, other than that i never see a fight on its performance seriously.
Added on February 6, 2010, 11:12 pmQUOTE(ricolim @ Feb 6 2010, 01:26 PM)
I see..I see..

If you compare Altis 1.8 with Nissan Sylphy 2.0 or Honda Civic 1.8 or Civic 2.0, these three cars can send Altis 1.8 to eat smoke anytime...

Haha....you go and test those cars you will know, dont care about 1.8 civic since to me it is lacking power, but this 2.0 civic is pretty well and sylph only a family car, ntg perforamnce can talk about even it is 2.0.
Added on February 6, 2010, 11:15 pmQUOTE(D-Zire @ Feb 6 2010, 09:06 AM)
so u are saying that civic 2.0 can smoke m3 2.0 anytime eh?

I quite agreed on this statement if you only talked about the pick up. after both car speed up more or less the same, just when there are lots of cornering, then civic will lose definitely bcz mazda car famous anywhere with its super steering and good well handling.
By the way, civic suspension very suck, don't understand why 12xk car but give a so cheap suspension compare to mazda and lancer's multilink
This post has been edited by loneboy62: Feb 6 2010, 11:15 PM