Jul 5 2009, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jul 5 2009, 06:15 PM)
Just watched the movie.... got a couple of question
1. How the shard manipulate sam mind and make him become some sort of information for the whereabout of the machine?
it just do. its a science fiction. Do appreciate the fiction part of it.
2. Why are we seeing a terminator in Transformer movie? Can a transformer in any way, could actually transform into flesh and bones to mimic human? I remember they can do projection in vehicle, but terminator?
if it appears in the movie, means it can. Its a matter of whether your mind is open to such new idea or not. Original transformers from G1 series have Pretenders:- robots in human-shell. .
3. What sam suppose to questioned what is happening to his kitchen after the shard burn through down to the lower level? Dont he feel curious? The whole house was being bought down..... dont he at least check what is actually happening that just busy himself to college?
it is established that in the first movie, when the cube touches the vending machine, it turns into robot. Same goes for the "presentation" in S7, where the energy channeled into the phone cause it to turn into robot too. Why would he bother waste time to check out the stuff he already knew?.
4. Presuming Optimus know about the fallen intention, i guess he is actually trying hard to work with human to eliminate any decep activities on earth, to prevent the revenge of the fallen. This bring to the importance of the shard which store the information? Cant they just hid it instead of sam owning it?
thats your presumption. Not until Demolishor is killed, Prime and gang doesnt know about the "fallen" nor his intention. And they sure doesnt know a tiny shard can still store so much information.
5. I cant remember correctly, but the allspark peice that panther lookalike robot stole from the military base was used to revive megatron right?
Yep.Its its another bigger piece of the allspark.
6. Why did fallen wait for so long for a whole scale attack on earth and threaten to get the location of the machine? With their capabilities seeing 3 deceps can defeat optimus? Adding fallen could be amazing. WHy wait and hid till optimus is dead?
The fallen knew only descendent of the primes can kill him. How can The fallen be amazing? your presumption again? Btw, the fallen also knew prime pwns 3 deceps before he got killed. I can also presume the fallen also kinda "scared" seeing ONE autobot can be "amazing".
7. If i remember carefully, at the middle to the end, sam was travelling with his fox, his college mate and the old psyco man together also with bumblebee and the 2 other twins car. How they pass through the patrol with the twin car unoccupied?
since you knew transformers can project human holograms/drivers, the twins can also apply the same and maybe project a fake family sitting inside them. How can you "assume" the twin cars have no humans inside, yet "able" to pass through the checkpoint?
8.Hmm... transformer can teleport? That's new to me.
Its fiction. Teleportation is nothing for an advance robot civilisation, maybe its just a "premium" ability of high ranking transformers. Same like how Presidents and bigwigs able to fly everywhere using planes, while we humans need to pay and book tickets to fly on special occasions. G1 transformers series also featured decepticon with teleporting ability, like Skywarp, one of the seekers
9. Knowledge is in sam head, but all i see is the tips from the old transformer robot and some astrology knowledge that lead them to the matrix. So even deceps got their hand on sam, they might not know the machine and matric location as well right?
They got the "doctor" that is able to squeeze the info out from Sams head. Are you sleeping during the scene where Sam got kidnapped and halfway being "diagnosed" by the Doctor before the autobots crashed in just in time?
10. Matrix key was in dust, then reform, why must it make it in dust at the first place? Its look really weird.
It turn to dust so simple-minded people can feel its 'useless". but Sam use his instincts and knew there's more to it. he scooped it into his sock. Its only WEIRD because your are not willing to accept such new idea. The idea is... not anyone can simply find, and then own/hold the matrix. they must do something "great" to gain the matrix and use it,literally. I think the dust is nothing (just for show show), even if Sam didnt carry the dust.. if only he does sacrifice for the autobot's cause, the matrix might magically appear for him again in a physical form.
11. Sam come back to live? Why? Dont tell me to continue with the story?
Why cant he comes to life? because its impossible from humans point of view in their earthly believes/thinking/religion? Think out of the world please. We're seeing a movie involving interplanetary aliens.
12. Anyone can tell me why the person in charge of an aircraft carrier with a devastating secret weapon would listen to some nobody who been kick out from the military and fire at his order?
The secret weapon is so secret that on few people knows about it. Simmons do, and blurted it out. Im sure the aircraft carrier knew how critical is the situation with the decepticons attacking here and there. Do they have a choice?
13. Can they just use the same weapon to destroy the machine or they one got one bullet? Why wait for optimus to do it?
Wait? huh? Did you actually saw a scene where all of the humams (army) .. cross their legs and arms and said "hhmm.. ok. we give up. let autobots take it from here. We wait" ? LOL. Why do you keeps presuming the stuff that cant be proven?
The weapon needs time to recharge. They have no choice again, and might attack through other means. At the same time, the autobots do their part too. It's only coincidence Jettimus prime able to take down the sun harvester before the humans do.
14. The fallen look very stronge with his telekinesis power that can make an AOE lifting of all the vehicle and drop them down at ease. Why Optimus kill him so easily? Like no fight at all.
I also cringe at the short battle. But the movie already hitting 2 hour when this happened. Since Prime is the great lead of autobot, vs the great powerful Fallen... I wonder if any typical viewers would mind if additional 1 hour is allocated to see them battle.
15. The fallen, starscream and megatron cant take on the mildly recovered but upgraded optimus prime? Weird. I expect, at least a good fight.
this is arguable. How do you know prime is mildy recovered? The allspark revived megatron and he is in his peak and powerful speeding up from seabed and hitting the submarine,then flew to outer space, just like a rebirth + greater power. The matrix of leadership revived prime. Even though he doesnt behave like "OMG look at me.. Im very strong and powerful. lemme test my firepower/kicks /punches heehaa!" after he awoken, doesnt mean the energy inside him = "mild". Dont compare sentient robots "recovery method" = sick humans just ate medicine and feeling a bit "better". Please think out of the box.
I got lot more, but so far, this is the most blur senarios i encounter.
The scenario is blur coz ur absortion method is weak. Try improve your memory and attention next time
Fun movie, but not great.
This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Jul 5 2009, 06:21 PM1. How the shard manipulate sam mind and make him become some sort of information for the whereabout of the machine?
it just do. its a science fiction. Do appreciate the fiction part of it.
2. Why are we seeing a terminator in Transformer movie? Can a transformer in any way, could actually transform into flesh and bones to mimic human? I remember they can do projection in vehicle, but terminator?
if it appears in the movie, means it can. Its a matter of whether your mind is open to such new idea or not. Original transformers from G1 series have Pretenders:- robots in human-shell. .
3. What sam suppose to questioned what is happening to his kitchen after the shard burn through down to the lower level? Dont he feel curious? The whole house was being bought down..... dont he at least check what is actually happening that just busy himself to college?
it is established that in the first movie, when the cube touches the vending machine, it turns into robot. Same goes for the "presentation" in S7, where the energy channeled into the phone cause it to turn into robot too. Why would he bother waste time to check out the stuff he already knew?.
4. Presuming Optimus know about the fallen intention, i guess he is actually trying hard to work with human to eliminate any decep activities on earth, to prevent the revenge of the fallen. This bring to the importance of the shard which store the information? Cant they just hid it instead of sam owning it?
thats your presumption. Not until Demolishor is killed, Prime and gang doesnt know about the "fallen" nor his intention. And they sure doesnt know a tiny shard can still store so much information.
5. I cant remember correctly, but the allspark peice that panther lookalike robot stole from the military base was used to revive megatron right?
Yep.Its its another bigger piece of the allspark.
6. Why did fallen wait for so long for a whole scale attack on earth and threaten to get the location of the machine? With their capabilities seeing 3 deceps can defeat optimus? Adding fallen could be amazing. WHy wait and hid till optimus is dead?
The fallen knew only descendent of the primes can kill him. How can The fallen be amazing? your presumption again? Btw, the fallen also knew prime pwns 3 deceps before he got killed. I can also presume the fallen also kinda "scared" seeing ONE autobot can be "amazing".
7. If i remember carefully, at the middle to the end, sam was travelling with his fox, his college mate and the old psyco man together also with bumblebee and the 2 other twins car. How they pass through the patrol with the twin car unoccupied?
since you knew transformers can project human holograms/drivers, the twins can also apply the same and maybe project a fake family sitting inside them. How can you "assume" the twin cars have no humans inside, yet "able" to pass through the checkpoint?
8.Hmm... transformer can teleport? That's new to me.
Its fiction. Teleportation is nothing for an advance robot civilisation, maybe its just a "premium" ability of high ranking transformers. Same like how Presidents and bigwigs able to fly everywhere using planes, while we humans need to pay and book tickets to fly on special occasions. G1 transformers series also featured decepticon with teleporting ability, like Skywarp, one of the seekers
9. Knowledge is in sam head, but all i see is the tips from the old transformer robot and some astrology knowledge that lead them to the matrix. So even deceps got their hand on sam, they might not know the machine and matric location as well right?
They got the "doctor" that is able to squeeze the info out from Sams head. Are you sleeping during the scene where Sam got kidnapped and halfway being "diagnosed" by the Doctor before the autobots crashed in just in time?
10. Matrix key was in dust, then reform, why must it make it in dust at the first place? Its look really weird.
It turn to dust so simple-minded people can feel its 'useless". but Sam use his instincts and knew there's more to it. he scooped it into his sock. Its only WEIRD because your are not willing to accept such new idea. The idea is... not anyone can simply find, and then own/hold the matrix. they must do something "great" to gain the matrix and use it,literally. I think the dust is nothing (just for show show), even if Sam didnt carry the dust.. if only he does sacrifice for the autobot's cause, the matrix might magically appear for him again in a physical form.
11. Sam come back to live? Why? Dont tell me to continue with the story?
Why cant he comes to life? because its impossible from humans point of view in their earthly believes/thinking/religion? Think out of the world please. We're seeing a movie involving interplanetary aliens.
12. Anyone can tell me why the person in charge of an aircraft carrier with a devastating secret weapon would listen to some nobody who been kick out from the military and fire at his order?
The secret weapon is so secret that on few people knows about it. Simmons do, and blurted it out. Im sure the aircraft carrier knew how critical is the situation with the decepticons attacking here and there. Do they have a choice?
13. Can they just use the same weapon to destroy the machine or they one got one bullet? Why wait for optimus to do it?
Wait? huh? Did you actually saw a scene where all of the humams (army) .. cross their legs and arms and said "hhmm.. ok. we give up. let autobots take it from here. We wait" ? LOL. Why do you keeps presuming the stuff that cant be proven?
The weapon needs time to recharge. They have no choice again, and might attack through other means. At the same time, the autobots do their part too. It's only coincidence Jettimus prime able to take down the sun harvester before the humans do.
14. The fallen look very stronge with his telekinesis power that can make an AOE lifting of all the vehicle and drop them down at ease. Why Optimus kill him so easily? Like no fight at all.
I also cringe at the short battle. But the movie already hitting 2 hour when this happened. Since Prime is the great lead of autobot, vs the great powerful Fallen... I wonder if any typical viewers would mind if additional 1 hour is allocated to see them battle.
15. The fallen, starscream and megatron cant take on the mildly recovered but upgraded optimus prime? Weird. I expect, at least a good fight.
this is arguable. How do you know prime is mildy recovered? The allspark revived megatron and he is in his peak and powerful speeding up from seabed and hitting the submarine,then flew to outer space, just like a rebirth + greater power. The matrix of leadership revived prime. Even though he doesnt behave like "OMG look at me.. Im very strong and powerful. lemme test my firepower/kicks /punches heehaa!" after he awoken, doesnt mean the energy inside him = "mild". Dont compare sentient robots "recovery method" = sick humans just ate medicine and feeling a bit "better". Please think out of the box.
I got lot more, but so far, this is the most blur senarios i encounter.
The scenario is blur coz ur absortion method is weak. Try improve your memory and attention next time
Fun movie, but not great.
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