Oh c'mon its NOT that irregular.

Call of Duty does it
Gears of War so far have done it
The first 2 Fallout games came out within a year of each other
So did Need for Speed at one point


While this may be a first by Valve (OMG 2 games in the space of a year!), its certainly NOT a first for the industry. Hence the reason many of the complaints here are moot:
Sequel not using new engine? Done before (Gears of War, God of War)
Content should be free? Done since time immemorial
Content that can be patched in? Ditto above.

Please end this nerdrage streak.

Like I said, its because everyone has been spoiled by Valve because of TF2.

Well all the Battlefield games were sold at a premium price with practically no proper single player content.

The thing is, for a multiplayer only game, you gauge the cost of it based on how many hours of enjoyment you had. I'm not going to dispute that TF2 has insane value based on its longevity, but really, its not fair to compare the two as they should be judged on their own merits.

But the thing is, does this announcement nullify all those hours of enjoyment in L4D? Unless of course you didn't like L4D, whereby this announcement shouldn't affect you at all.

I'm pretty sure the fans (I was one of them) at the time were THRILLED instead of upset with the announcement of UT2004. UT2003 was severely incomplete and broke many of the things that made UT fun. Hell, much gripes was posted on the intarwubs when it was delayed.

*sigh*
The Orange Box is the single most value for money package in the history of games retail. Comparing anything else to it is asinine... It isn't the benchmark for value for money, its the upper limit.

Now, I wouldn't call the content the same as TF2 (When it was released, not after the 4 major updates). Heck its not even close when you think about it. The Source engine upgrade, the Director, and the ragdolls... The MAGNIFICENT ragdolls!

You want to argue about multiplayer playtime, fine... But saying that the content and amount of work put into TF2 is the same as L4D, that's just grasping at straws.

So, you are equating the new content for L4D2 over L4D as a simple roster change?

Nerdrage is raging.

Unfortunately, (Not a stab at you or anything) I don't think you'll find L4D 2 any better. It probably will feel a little less repetitive (With the Director having more options to mess with the flow) but if L4D bored you, I think this will probably do the same.

I don't know what are Valve's plans for L4D. It may just be dead in the water after the sequel drops... They may make into a Dawn of War + expansions style system where both are needed for maximum fun.

I do know that I still have faith in Valve... and when they say "hold on" I'll wait and listen to what they have to say. Valve are probably one of the few game companies out there that actively uses customer (And even public) feedback to directly alter their decisions... There's a reason they chose to drop the L4D2 announcement so suddenly which would obviously result in this kind of backlash. I'm curious as to why they would risk their reputation for it.

Aren't you?

Melee weapons now replace the pistols? Aw man, I was hoping they were sticking with making it hardcore by making it replace your main weapon.

I like the new boss infected though. The spitter is nasty.

Yes, but so far only for the bat I think...

It would be nice if they gave out weapons based on your Steam games listing.
So, if you own:
TF2 = Bat
Any Half-Life game = Crowbar
Counter-strike = Knife

Or something like that.

Valve boycotts BACK

Many lulz... good one Valve.

I'm guessing its because there's limb dismemberment with melee weapons.

Even then, it seems a wee bit too soon seeing as the game is still months from release. *kneejerk*

If its defined as painkillers, then it shouldn't be an issue (Otherwise, Max Payne would've been banned as well)

Are you drawing a parallel based on what happened with Fallout 3, where they wanted to rename the drug names? (Which is quite silly to begin with because the first 2 Fallouts DIDN'T have real names either, so it was some stupid guy at Bethesda's fault for making that situation happen)

Most definitely its about violence.

Anyway, with Bioshock, you were injecting some "fantasy" substance into your body, not a real life drug.

This post has been edited by H@H@: Sep 20 2009, 02:42 AM

Crash Course is a campaign with only 2 levels instead of 4 (Its basically, a half campaign or "condensed" one)

Guys, it is a full sequel and not an add-on pack (Regardless of how you want to view it, that's what *they* say it is)... Why should they price it lower than the first one?

But I am hoping e-club would cut us some slack... Quite vain though.

Against my better judgement, I think might want in on that cheaper pack.

Yes it was.

I like to believe that the reason Crash Course is so mediocre is not because it was hacked together to appease the boycotters, but rather it was rushed and as a result its quality was severely compromised.

My take is, they were planning on releasing the new content a little later after L4D2 dropped, but since there were like a bajillion claims that Valve were dropping support for L4D, they had to compromise.

Its nice that Valve have developed this truly awesome relationship with their gaming community... They are in an absolutely unique position. Alas, this also means that they can't turn a blind eye to criticism anymore and as a result their "Valve time" has taken a great hit.


Also, do you ppl seriously believe they'll offer a 50% deal in a few months? SERIOUSLY? It has taken almost a YEAR to get the 50% drop for L4D (Even then its because of an impending sequel) and even with TF2 (Where the trend started), it took almost TWO YEARS for them to do it.

Just keep boycotting. I'll be playing BOTH L4D2 AND Borderlands.

Oooo new game mode:
Scavenger mode

Sounds great. More competitive modes is always a good thing

Also, "Hey, Freeman, I think you left this back at Black Mesa!"

This post has been edited by H@H@: Oct 8 2009, 04:16 PM

On this point they say that L4D2 players can seamlessly join L4D games (Assuming they own L4D lar of course). Not sure if it works the other way round.

:sadface:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=29116199

Wow dual wielding a chainsaw and a machete.

HAX!

You're expecting a BOX? You didn't buy the first one locally did you?