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kwaiwah
post Apr 15 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Apr 15 2010, 10:31 AM)
just realized why I can't create scrimmages...only limited to one per week laugh.gif
my team-name's EdgeSaber in League III.1. Saw KwaiWah's team around.
and my bloody bid for a "superior" trainer got disturbed for the 3rd time already. Why the heck can't these people bid for others...there are cheaper ones around!! mad.gif


Added on April 15, 2010, 2:53 pmI'm trying to train passing for my Small Forward guys but there is no such option...how?
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Hi, I took a look at your team and you are off to a good start as your team is really quite decent.

Rosdi bin Musa is certainly training material. You should really try to search the transfer market for another young trainee so that you don't waste training minutes.
Try to ensure you get an advanced trainer and that you get 48 minutes of training time for your trainee in the correct position.

Being in Div III is really good luck as you are practically guaranteed of $500k next season if you train up your team correctly. In fact, you are already topping your conference so it should not be too hard to advance to Div II especially since you are the only human player in your conference and the other side has only 1 human player (Teenagers).

My advice to you is to do the following for this season:

1. Invest at least $10K in scouting. You will get at least 2 good draftee since there is only 1 other player who will be choosing the draftee.
2. Get additional 1 more 18yo trainee. Ensure potential is minimum Star so that you can train him up to at least $30k before reaching a salary cap.
3. Get a trainer (Try to get Advanced with salary below $13k) and stick to a training plan. Train your 2 18yo trainees. If you do it correctly, their salary will at least be $12k by the end of the season
4. Solidify your roster. Go on the transfer market and try to get some good veteran players (>28 yo). Salary should be above $3.5k. But don't ever spend more than $50k for each player. Don't rush and don't get into a bidding war. Research the market to have a feel of how much each type of player will cost before jumping in. Try to target to have 11 players so that you can better manage your minutes.

Feel free to ask any questions you might have

This post has been edited by kwaiwah: Apr 15 2010, 10:16 PM
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post Apr 16 2010, 09:41 AM

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the sifu has spoken
Aeon_Clock
post Apr 16 2010, 09:59 AM

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I'm thinking of going for Superior-skilled trainer for around 15-16k. Is this ok?

As for my roster...anyone above 20 years old, don't focus training on them? Hmm, don't quite understand why but I guess I'll see the results later.

Am I really the only human player? sweat.gif
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post Apr 16 2010, 10:08 AM

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a 18yo is like a clean slate. you have more time to mould him until he reaches his potential (salary) cap compared to a 20yo.
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post Apr 16 2010, 10:21 AM

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well, in that case I guess I'll go for the superior trainer.
anyone else in my roster to train? Khairil bin Mamat or Iskandar Zulkernain Noor Yadah?
maybe I can train them together with Rosdi bin Musa...two at a time instead of one.

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post Apr 16 2010, 10:29 AM

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nope. try to get another 18-19yo center with average or respectable passing. to train with rosdi.
kwaiwah
post Apr 17 2010, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Apr 16 2010, 09:59 AM)
I'm thinking of going for Superior-skilled trainer for around 15-16k. Is this ok?

As for my roster...anyone above 20 years old, don't focus training on them? Hmm, don't quite understand why but I guess I'll see the results later.

Am I really the only human player? sweat.gif
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You should always scout your competition. Just click on their team and the main overview page will show you if they are computerise player or not.
Alternatively, I like to go to conference overview (Available at the league summary page at the top right). You can check when was the team's last login or if they are managed by computer

My advice on trainer for now is only get an Advanced trainer. You only have 1 trainee. You need to get at least 2.
Plus, at a division III, you really should not spend so much money on staff. Advanced Trainer will be sufficient. You need to save money to get trainees, and also solidify your roster.
Spending some money on Arena is also not bad since you should be winning your conference easily with our guidance. (Make sure you increase your Arena price if you are already selling out)

Your other players are too raw to be trained. My estimation of prime salary for each age will be (This is actually to simplify things, skills are more accurate but salary will be a good estimation for now)
18yo: $3.5k and above
19yo: $9k and above
20yo: $18k and above
21yo: $30k and above

Any player with salary less than the estimated salary will be considered under-trained and not worth to train.

So technically you only have 1 good trainee. My advice to you is to get at least 1 more 18yo trainee with minimum Star potential. Don't have to be stellar 18yo. Since your trainee is a center, you should get another Center or PF. So here are some guides to searching for an inside trainee:

Inside Shot: min Average
Inside Def: min Average
Rebound: min Average
Age: Max 18
Salary: Min $3.5k
Current bid: Max $200k (Don't need to spend too much money on your first trainee, $200k is already on the high side)
Height: Min 208cm
Potential: Min Star

Don't need to rush things with this game. You will see the result in a few months time. Take your time to survey your competition (Try to look at Div II since your Div is mostly computers) and also survey the transfer list market.
And never never get sucked into a bidding war for a player or staff. There will always be other players or staff in the market in the future.

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post Apr 17 2010, 11:19 PM

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can't get any Advanced trainer...been trying for days. Will get competitive trainer first since there's less people going for those. Then will keep trying Advanced trainer until I get one.

Anyway, need some advice here. My SG is injured in the latest match (which I won again tongue.gif)...recovery take 1 week. Should I take backup players from another position as SG backup? I mean if I take PF backup as SG backup....what will happen to PF when the main guy rests?
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post Apr 17 2010, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Apr 17 2010, 11:19 PM)
can't get any Advanced trainer...been trying for days. Will get competitive trainer first since there's less people going for those. Then will keep trying Advanced trainer until I get one.

Anyway, need some advice here. My SG is injured in the latest match (which I won again tongue.gif)...recovery take 1 week. Should I take backup players from another position as SG backup? I mean if I take PF backup as SG backup....what will happen to PF when the main guy rests?
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Don't need to rush things. You have until next Friday morning to get an advanced trainer. Getting one now and getting one on Friday morning will not make any difference. Though you probably should have gotten a competitive trainer yesterday morning.

The recommended positions for each player is just that, recommended. It doesn't mean that you cannot field them at other positions.
You can field the same player as backup for both PF and SG. It just means that the starter will swap out less as he sometimes don't have a backup when he needs to rest.
Some people even purposely field zero backup in order to be able to train 3 or 6 trainees. But this will have a higher risk of losing the game due to fouling out or injury.
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post Apr 18 2010, 02:17 AM

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sorry, I don't understand why you say I have until next Friday morning to get a trainer.

does scrimmage matches affect training time?
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post Apr 18 2010, 07:14 AM

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because, a typical week in BB consists of 2 league games which starts on saturday and ends on tuesday. thursday is the last day to squeeze in some training minutes before the game announces training results on friday.

so, you can think of it that the first day of the week begins on saturday for bb.

and yes, you get training time in scrimmages as well, you just don't get the ticket sales.. sad.gif
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post Apr 18 2010, 10:26 AM

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I'm new here... Inv tarik me main...

ahhaa...

I'm kinda confused about the times for this game. the clock says x:xx:xx

is this in AM or PM? And I'm assuming on the same day as malaysian time?

seems to me some of the auctions are supposed to have already ended but are still ongoing sleep.gif

Oh and my teams is D Vices
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post Apr 18 2010, 10:56 AM

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yes!! Finally got an advanced trainer!! Spent almost 60k for him though sweat.gif


Added on April 18, 2010, 10:58 am
QUOTE(vicelicious @ Apr 18 2010, 10:26 AM)
= =;
I'm new here... Inv tarik me main...

ahhaa...

I'm kinda confused about the times for this game. the clock says x:xx:xx

is this in AM or PM? And I'm assuming on the same day as malaysian time?

seems to me some of the auctions are supposed to have already ended but are still ongoing sleep.gif

Oh and my teams is D Vices
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oh, no wonder that name sounded familiar...you just sent me scrimmage invitation rite? biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Apr 18 2010, 10:58 AM
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post Apr 18 2010, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(vicelicious @ Apr 18 2010, 10:26 AM)
= =;
I'm new here... Inv tarik me main...

ahhaa...

I'm kinda confused about the times for this game. the clock says x:xx:xx

is this in AM or PM? And I'm assuming on the same day as malaysian time?

seems to me some of the auctions are supposed to have already ended but are still ongoing sleep.gif

Oh and my teams is D Vices
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there's 2 clock. which one are you referring to? the big clock with black background is the countdown clock to your next match. the smaller one is the game time clock, ???? online at xx:xx:xx.
vicelicious
post Apr 18 2010, 12:00 PM

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bukan count down timer la! the black one I know la! tongue.gif
ya the game time clock is AM / PM? and same day as us?

@ ac : haha I think so! I was jus spamming scrimmages... i wanted to see how the team perform... mana tau only allowed one per week and its only on on thurs or was it fri

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post Apr 18 2010, 12:31 PM

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I don't think you should expect much based on what they said. I was lucky enough to win two games but those were against bot teams. Had a scrimmage against another player team but lost it big time.

Seems that this season is mainly to get money to upgrade arena, get better staffs and train your most valuable player(s). Am I right?

btw, I'm looking at the match data...what's OR and TR? offensive and...turnover rebound?

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post Apr 18 2010, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Apr 18 2010, 02:17 AM)
sorry, I don't understand why you say I have until next Friday morning to get a trainer.

does scrimmage matches affect training time?
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Here is how training works. On Friday afternoon, the server will check what position you are training and for how many minutes your players have played at that position. At the same time, it will take into account the level of your trainer.

It is important to note that the server will only process this on Friday afternoon. So it doesn't care if you changed your training plans 101 times before Friday or that your trainer was a lvl 1 before Friday.

Scrimmage can contribute to training time. That is why you should aim to train at least 2 players since having 3 games in a week, you should at least be able to train 2 players on single position training. And always schedule scrimmage if your team is out of the tournament already.

But you must always remember that you should not have your players plan more than 85 minutes or less than 48 minutes as it will affect their game shape.

You should read up on the game manual and also the following help forums on FAQs, training regime and game shape as it will help greatly in your team's future.

FAQs - A good compilation of all the FAQs related to BB

Basic Info - Basic info on terms and skills for each position

Misc Info - Read up on all the Training / Team management links

Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any more doubts you have if you are still confused after reading the threads.


Added on April 18, 2010, 12:51 pm
QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Apr 18 2010, 12:31 PM)
I don't think you should expect much based on what they said. I was lucky enough to win two games but those were against bot teams. Had a scrimmage against another player team but lost it big time.

Seems that this season is mainly to get money to upgrade arena, get better staffs and train your most valuable player(s). Am I right?

btw, I'm looking at the match data...what's OR and TR? offensive and...turnover rebound?
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OR is Offensive Rebound
TR is Total Rebound (Offensive + Defensive Rebound)

You can find this info in the thread I posted earlier. Lots of good stuff there.

Winning in your first season should be second priority. You should just concentrate on in order of importance:

1. Getting a training regime which should have at least 2 18 yo trainee (If you cannot afford to get an 18yo then a 19yo is not that bad either)
2. Better staff is only for trainer. PR and Doctor I don't think you need, but it doesn't hurt to get a level with specialty since specialty are not level dependant (Meaning a competent level Doctor with Taping Specialty is similar to an advanced level Doctor). Plus it is not that expensive for a competent PR and Doctor with specialty.
3. Concentrate on spending money to get all your rosters to have their main skills to be average and above for the non-training positions. Don't jump in too fast though. You need to survey the market a bit. Rough guideline don't spend more than $50k per veteran (28 yo and above) player. Not even $51k as $50k is already on a high side. I used to be able to get some bargains for $5k and below (But you need to spend a lot of time to survey first not to mention setting alarm clock to wake up in the middle of the night to bid). My advise, it is better to spend $100k and get 5 average players than to spend $100k just to get 1 respectable player.
4. Spending $10k on scouting is also a must since Div III don't usually have much active players.
5. Arena should be your last priority. But if you still have some money leftover, feel free to spend money to expand. Increasing ticket price will be a better alternative in the first season to increase your revenue.

Hope this helps.


Added on April 18, 2010, 1:15 pm
QUOTE(vicelicious @ Apr 18 2010, 10:26 AM)
= =;
I'm new here... Inv tarik me main...

ahhaa...

I'm kinda confused about the times for this game. the clock says x:xx:xx

is this in AM or PM? And I'm assuming on the same day as malaysian time?

seems to me some of the auctions are supposed to have already ended but are still ongoing sleep.gif

Oh and my teams is D Vices
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Welcome to BB! The clock is local time (Malaysia time). Auction time is also to Malaysia time. Maybe you saw the date wrongly? But I would advise you to take 1 week to understand BB first and read up on all the links I posted before diving into the transfer market. You wouldn't want to spend all your $300k on the first week just to realise you bought the wrong guy.

Unlike Aeon, your team is not so lucky as you are in Div II. So you have lots of human players to compete against. At the moment in Div II.2 Big Conference has 2 active player and Great 8 conference has 5 active players. So in total you have 7 active players in your League. So again, don't expect too much and just concentrate on improving your team. The key for all new players is to make sure your team improves faster than other teams. So read up on all the threads I posted and ensure you clarify anything you have doubts on.

You do have 1 potential trainee - Amrie bin Abd Rahman (14092529)

So you will have to get another young trainee from the transfer market.
Once you get another young trainee then you can try to get an Advance Trainer (Pref less than 13k salary).
Don't need specialty as those are expensive. This first part is most important as it will determine your future Star for your team.
Try not to spend more than total $200k for both the trainee and trainer.

I took a look at your team, and your roster really needs a lot of work. To me, out of your current 11 players, there are only 6 players with salary more than $3k, so you really need to change at least the other 5 players to be average skilled players. You really don't have much money so make sure you survey the market well for a week before jumping in. You will need to spend quite a lot of money to overcome your weak roster. So again, be wise on how you spend the money.

As always, please read up on my posted links and try to understand the game more. It will help a lot to avoid making similar blunders I made when I just started tongue.gif

This post has been edited by kwaiwah: Apr 18 2010, 01:17 PM
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post Apr 18 2010, 03:11 PM

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thanks...will look into them. Been looking through game manual these few days but a few things not explained...
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post Apr 18 2010, 07:49 PM

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thankx kwaiwah! yalo!

quite sucky la my team so far T__T

Am looking out for another SF / PG ... so I can train both at the same time = =;

thx for the heads up... I'm quite sure that I didn't see the wrong time tho!

My question is... when u train people right... are they trained based on the position they naturally fit best into?

Eg if I train jumper ~ : SG + PG based on my rostering / player management will be training?

or will it be their natural position?

shit i dunno if I am making sense! AHAH! Nvm will read the links : )


This post has been edited by vicelicious: Apr 18 2010, 07:52 PM
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post Apr 18 2010, 08:08 PM

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the best training result comes from training a single position. eg, you've got some training where you can choose between PG, Guards (PG/SG) or Wingmen (SG/SF). Your trainee will train faster if you train PG only compared to Guards.

So, if you're training PG on Pressure, BallHandling and Passing, choosing a single position will bring you faster result.

Some training only lets you select PG/SG or SG/SF, then there's nothing you can do about it except to choose that option. Just make sure your #1 and #2 trainee gets the minimum training minutes of 48+.

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