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Household 2 1/2 Storey Bungalow construcion cost, How much will it cost for 25 x 47 house?

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tpleong
post Jun 5 2009, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(ameeyn @ Jun 5 2009, 12:26 PM)
the RM250K is excluding architect fee and all the appropriate engineer submission fees..the budget is for the house only


Added on June 5, 2009, 12:29 pm

I've checked with architect and according to him house area does not need piling works..he hasn't confirmed yet and will inform me after checking it out..by the way how much does piling cost actually?..is the wood cheaper or rc piling cheaper?
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You need to do soil test before u know whether u need to do piling. The cost is more or less the same. Depending on how many piles u need for yr structure. I used rc piling.


Added on June 5, 2009, 2:59 pmJust FYI, I used 600k excluding land to build my house on a 10,000 sqft land 8 years ago. I even designed the house myself saving the designing cost plus I virtually bought all the house's fittings myself.


Wangkokyew,

which part of KK do u build most the bungalows....khidmat area?

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post Jun 5 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(tpleong @ Jun 5 2009, 02:52 PM)

Wangkokyew,

which part of KK do u build most the bungalows....khidmat area?

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I'm new to the company because I was not previously involved in the family business, but they used to build bungalows in the Klang Valley area. Currently, we have moved to KK to participate in the Alamesra project opposite 1 Borneo. You should be able to see the ads plastered all across town.
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post Jun 5 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jun 5 2009, 03:29 PM)
I'm new to the company because I was not previously involved in the family business, but they used to build bungalows in the Klang Valley area. Currently, we have moved to KK to participate in the Alamesra project opposite 1 Borneo. You should be able to see the ads plastered all across town.
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Right...I am very familiar with KK although working in KL. Heard KK's properties price didn't drop even abit during this downturn. sad.gif
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post Jun 5 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jun 5 2009, 02:49 PM)
Anyway, the main thing I don't understand is why you need to rebuild it completely into a bungalow, especially when your land area is so small. Wouldn't it be much simpler to just extensively renovate it?

One of my neighbors basically did that. Bought a terrace house and basically knocked out almost all the walls (except for the ones that are shared with the neighbors obviously) and redid everything.

Are you just talking about this project empty-handed or do you already have the plans in hand? Because I sure would like to see what a 2 1/2 storey bungalow on such a small area is supposed to look like.

(Disclosure: I work for my family-owned construction contractor company and we specialize in building bungalows.)
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My current house in a very bad condition..I have the basic house plan with me and waiting for the proper building plan from my architect..I'll post the house design and floor plan shortly..By the way why is everybody saying that my house will be so small?..There are a lot of houses with that size in Gelugor,Penang..Does anyone own a house with that size here?


Added on June 5, 2009, 5:03 pm
QUOTE(tpleong @ Jun 5 2009, 02:52 PM)
You need to do soil test before u know whether u need to do piling. The cost is more or less the same. Depending on how many piles u need for yr structure. I used rc piling.


Added on June 5, 2009, 2:59 pmJust FYI, I used 600k excluding land to build my house on a 10,000 sqft land 8 years ago. I even designed the house myself saving the designing cost plus I virtually bought all the house's fittings myself.
Wangkokyew,

which part of KK do u build most the bungalows....khidmat area?

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that must be a very grand house..how much did it cost you for the piling back then?

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post Jun 5 2009, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(ameeyn @ Jun 5 2009, 01:03 AM)
it's a old skool half brick,half wood house..it's not linked but single stand alone house..some of my friends told me that it's RM80/ft² now..and for the approval since PR took control its 142 days from the date of submission..
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With the current economic situation. Labour might be cheaper but material price is climbing steadily.

Trust me, RM80/ft² would get you sub-par finishing at best. We're talking about Penang island here. If you say places like Parit Buntar, Nibong Tebal, Tasek Gelugor, Sungai Dua, Kulim etc. Then RM80/ft² might be sufficient.

And remember, extremely high chance that you'd exceed your initial budget. Be prepared for it.
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post Jun 6 2009, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 5 2009, 10:55 PM)
With the current economic situation. Labour might be cheaper but material price is climbing steadily.

Trust me, RM80/ft² would get you sub-par finishing at best. We're talking about Penang island here. If you say places like Parit Buntar, Nibong Tebal, Tasek Gelugor, Sungai Dua, Kulim etc. Then RM80/ft² might be sufficient.

And remember, extremely high chance that you'd exceed your initial budget. Be prepared for it.
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umm..how much do you think I will need then?
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post Jun 6 2009, 07:13 PM

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Let me tumpang your thread a little bid. I am always dreaming of building my house, but no money...

Anyway, just curious, will it cost a lot to rebuild a corner house(only 20x70 + 10' land)? I mean totally come up with new layout design. Here is my idea.

- knock down all walls
- rebuild w/ new design
- basically, use partition wall whenever possible, this way i can redesign my home again should i need to replan my layout! :-)

Just structurally, like what the other person has suggested to save money. How much would it cost a psf wise? Is it still 80-100psf? Here i am not talking about wiring/plumbing/ID. Just a bare unit house, almost like a shop lot, with only 4 walls, something like that.

Will it cost a lot more to raise the floor up 2-3'? LIke in US, most houses are built 2-3' up so that wiring, plumbing can be done easily. Sort of like rumah tinggi.


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post Jun 6 2009, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(ameeyn @ Jun 5 2009, 04:56 PM)
By the way why is everybody saying that my house will be so small?..There are a lot of houses with that size in Gelugor,Penang..Does anyone own a house with that size here?
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The footprint of your house (25' x 47') is small-medium size for a bungalow. Consider the fact that some of the larger terrace houses can have a footprint up to 22' x 45' (except they won't have land like yours). And many of the luxury semi-d's around would have a footprint bigger than yours - I saw a semi-d last week with a footprint of 35' x 50'. So hope you understand why some people comment that your bungalow is 'small'.


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QUOTE(ameeyn @ Jun 6 2009, 12:54 AM)
umm..how much do you think I will need then?
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Nowadays, I think at least RM100-120 psf. And that is for lower end spec.

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Are the floor and elevation plans ready ?
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post Jun 8 2009, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(ameeyn @ Jun 5 2009, 04:56 PM)
My current house in a very bad condition..I have the basic house plan with me and waiting for the proper building plan from my architect..I'll post the house design and floor plan shortly..By the way why is everybody saying that my house will be so small?..There are a lot of houses with that size in Gelugor,Penang..Does anyone own a house with that size here?


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that must be a very grand house..how much did it cost you for the piling back then?
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It costed me 20-30K just for the pilings.

Actually, am not trying to discourage u or anything, just want u to reliase that it is not that cheap & it involves a lot of hard work. It will be hell if the project stuck halfway b'cos of funding problem. In general, building yourself is expensive!

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QUOTE(tpleong @ Jun 8 2009, 12:08 PM)
It costed me 20-30K just for the pilings.

Actually, am not trying to discourage u or anything, just want u to reliase that it is not that cheap & it involves a lot of hard work. It will be hell if the project stuck halfway b'cos of funding problem. In general, building yourself is expensive!

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I'll double check with the contractor then..thanks for the input
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post Jun 10 2009, 02:14 PM

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Just to share my experience. I'm not building bungalow but extend my terrace house sideway by about 10'x39' double storey and 8'x20' single storey, and a back extension of 3'x20'. Structure + alum windows cost alone is about rm80k inclusive of 10 points 40' concrete piling costing rm5500. The structure cost seems cheap enough initially. When added porch, fences, plumbing, wiring, tiles, painting, plaster ceiling, grills, doors, locksets etc. in the end total cost without furnishing, curtains, kitchen cabinet, lighting, alarm, cctv, appliances, autogate etc. is about rm175k. This is just cement brick house with cheap white horse tiles and nippon paints. So if you've budgeted rm250k for structure only, be prepared to double that for everything else.

BTW, my house is in Bukit Tengah, Seberang Perai.

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post Jun 10 2009, 02:38 PM

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Another issue I would like to highlight is that IF your current house is NOT free from encumbrabces & u are applying the loan based on the new value of the house (after re-building) then ....it gonna cost u even more cos u have to do it thru one contractor ONLY & a certified one by the bank & most likely cost more. blink.gif

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 10 2009, 02:14 PM)
Just to share my experience. I'm not building bungalow but extend my terrace house sideway by about 10'x39' double storey and 8'x20' single storey, and a back extension of 3'x20'. Structure + alum windows cost alone is about rm80k inclusive of 10 points 40' concrete piling costing rm5500. The structure cost seems cheap enough initially. When added porch, fences, plumbing, wiring, tiles, painting, plaster ceiling, grills, doors, locksets etc. in the end total cost without furnishing, curtains, kitchen cabinet, lighting, alarm, cctv, appliances, autogate etc. is about rm175k. This is just cement brick house with cheap white horse tiles and nippon paints. So if you've budgeted rm250k for structure only, be prepared to double that for everything else.

BTW, my house is in Bukit Tengah, Seberang Perai.
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I'll check with the contractor..thanks bro


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QUOTE(tpleong @ Jun 10 2009, 02:38 PM)
Another issue I would like to highlight is that IF your current house is NOT free from encumbrabces & u are applying the loan based on the new value of the house (after re-building) then ....it gonna cost u even more cos u have to do it thru one contractor ONLY & a certified one by the bank & most likely cost more.  blink.gif
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My loan is already approved..

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post Jun 11 2009, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(ameeyn @ Jun 11 2009, 09:35 AM)
I'll check with the contractor..thanks bro


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My loan is already approved..
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If the loan is approved for renovation, then the contract has to be awarded to ONE contractor only to do everything !

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QUOTE(tpleong @ Jun 11 2009, 03:25 PM)
If the loan is approved for renovation, then the contract has to be awarded to ONE contractor only to do everything !

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no bro..my loan is based on my previous house value
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post Jun 17 2009, 11:58 AM

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I thought basic construction cost hovers around RM130++ for link house, RM150++ for semi dd and RM200+ for bangalows
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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jun 17 2009, 11:58 AM)
I thought basic construction cost hovers around RM130++ for link house, RM150++ for semi dd and RM200+ for bangalows
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That depends on location, construction spec, quality of material, labor rate, profit margin etc. My contractor go for low margin high volume instead of high margin low volume. This will keep his workers occupied most of the time.
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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jun 17 2009, 11:58 AM)
I thought basic construction cost hovers around RM130++ for link house, RM150++ for semi dd and RM200+ for bangalows
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yeah..that was my tought as well
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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jun 17 2009, 11:58 AM)
I thought basic construction cost hovers around RM130++ for link house, RM150++ for semi dd and RM200+ for bangalows
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There's a limit on how much one can spend on structure. But no limit on finishing.

A small low cost flat, one can dump RM1mil just to renovate it if so wishes.

For landed houses, it depends on how big is the built up area, material & finishing.

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