Hi,

I currently own a 2 storey house in Penang island that I will demolish to build a 2 1/2 storey bungalow..My buildup area is 25 X 47..I have secured a loan for RM250k for the project..Will it be enough?..I will post my floor and elevation plans shortly..

Please share your ideas and experience for my reference..

Thanks

This post has been edited by ameeyn: Jun 5 2009, 02:21 PM

Depends on the material you are using such as what type of wood, brick, window, paint and so on. I know several contractor and they estimate at least RM300k for the house only.

that's pretty expensive..

can bungalow be built on such a small buildup area?

bungalow means its a standalone building, not interconnected from one side (unlike Semi-D) or both (link houses). And I'm not wrong, at least 10 feet of land must be allocated on both side of the bungalow.

that would be a really small bungalow

I have build my own house before, that was 8 years ago. Build up around 4k ft2 and it costed me 600k thereabout. That was 8 years ago when the material costs was lower. With a budget of about 250k to 300k, it definitely won't be enough. For the structure, YES sufficient but not in liveable condition. You need to demolish the present structure which involve costs too.

There are by-law u need to abide too. Yr architect should know. Please, Please get the town board approval before you do anything!

Honestly speaking, it is no easy task.

Hope this will give u an idea what's coming your way.

A lot actually will depend on the materials used etc. I believe it can be done via modern construction techniques. Maybe you can check out PJ Development's acotec panels which can reduce your costs significantly.

yes..my house is a corner lot with a 10ft clearance on the left and a 20ft clearance on the right side..I'm only allowed to build a house with that size due to building line control..

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Added on June 3, 2009, 4:39 pmmedium laa..not rich maa

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Added on June 3, 2009, 4:43 pmyes i'm aware of the rules..my dad is planning to build it on his own meaning without engaging a contractor..according to land surveyor,by this way we can save up to 40% of the cost..anyone with experience building their own home?

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Added on June 3, 2009, 4:46 pmThanks bro..some supportive comments at last.I'll check it out..do you have any experience dealing with them?

This post has been edited by ameeyn: Jun 3 2009, 04:46 PM

They are basically suppliers and manufacturer of the pre-frabricated blocks. Normally they can advise on requirements based on your plans. These are load bearing materials used in constructions of many of their condos and has been in existence for over decades. The patent is from finland and ISO approved. Main factory is in Nilai but not too sure about the number. HQ number is 03-21621111. Good luck

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This post has been edited by tgeoklin: Jun 3 2009, 05:11 PM

Can the acotec be used to build fence wall? What is their price?

Can't remember the pricing as it was many years since I used them but its definitely cheaper than bricks then, everything being equal. Yes, you can use it as a fence wall.

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Is the existing house a link house or a bungalow? When u say it's a corner lot.

Next, u need to get approval fr MPPP. After plan submission, it might take 9-12 mths. Not sure if things had speed up after PR took control.

I assume ur 24x63 is the area ur building would be erected. So multiply the area of 1512ft² x 2.5 = 3780ft².

On average of RM100/ft², you need at least RM378k to build the house with average finishings. And that estimation exclude demolishing the existing structure.

it's a old skool half brick,half wood house..it's not linked but single stand alone house..some of my friends told me that it's RM80/ft² now..and for the approval since PR took control its 142 days from the date of submission..

I don't understand how you would be able to build a house so cheaply. You'd still need to hire an architect to draw out the plans, a C&S engineer to sign off that the building is structurally sound and an M&E engineer for all the electrical and water services. All of that costs a significant amount of money already.

Exactly my feeling!

Being a 3 storey building, u may need to do piling & that's expensive!

Before u do anything, find out all the details first ! Budget first

The trick to save costs as what I did is , get the contacttor to do the structurer only! i.e. meaning no windows, no flooring, no doors, no whatever fittings. Buy those fittimgs yourself & get it done yourself. That would save u a lot of money .

If your dad wants to do it by himself, he needs to be full time there monitoring the workers. It gonna be very taxing for him. At least a 4 months job. Even so, I still can't see how u can do it with only 250k.

just my 2 cents opinion, no harm intended.

cheers

This post has been edited by tpleong: Jun 5 2009, 02:53 PM

the RM250K is excluding architect fee and all the appropriate engineer submission fees..the budget is for the house only

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Added on June 5, 2009, 12:29 pmI've checked with architect and according to him house area does not need piling works..he hasn't confirmed yet and will inform me after checking it out..by the way how much does piling cost actually?..is the wood cheaper or rc piling cheaper?

This post has been edited by ameeyn: Jun 5 2009, 12:29 PM

My wife's uncle build a bungalow for RM500k. That's the house only, excluding the land price.

wow..must be a luxurious bungalow..how many storey and what is the build up area of the house?

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Added on June 5, 2009, 2:20 pma bit of correction..my build up area will be 25ft x 47ft..

This post has been edited by ameeyn: Jun 5 2009, 02:20 PM

Anyway, the main thing I don't understand is why you need to rebuild it completely into a bungalow, especially when your land area is so small. Wouldn't it be much simpler to just extensively renovate it?

One of my neighbors basically did that. Bought a terrace house and basically knocked out almost all the walls (except for the ones that are shared with the neighbors obviously) and redid everything.

Are you just talking about this project empty-handed or do you already have the plans in hand? Because I sure would like to see what a 2 1/2 storey bungalow on such a small area is supposed to look like.

(Disclosure: I work for my family-owned construction contractor company and we specialize in building bungalows.)