bear bear a good hero that can anti troll with a basher and blademail

bane? I dont think so. The closest hero to kill fv or troll is OD.

You think your sleep is faster than fv's timewalk and ult? he timewalk and ult- attack you 5 sec, after that he can also go bkb, activate bkb after his ult over. Can your bane do anything? timewalk distance 1300

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Added on July 18, 2009, 12:40 amfv can counter enemy blademail with heart (item that boost hp ((fv use his own hp to kill)) and opt for critical dmg, buriza). Unless you are centaur with 2 hearts and 3 blademail, 1 thread or phase boot (max possible item). I will opt to kill all your team member before coming for you.

fv and troll have the best late game attributes. thats why ppl are debating whether troll or fv. Your teddy bear cannot last la.

This post has been edited by Vv.SoViEt.vV: Jul 18 2009, 12:40 AM

play dota is to win game..not to get how many kill or to win hero

i use my bear bear... ur hero cannot even come close to me..and i can farm from the back....i can push ur tower...

i only need basic item..who cares how many time i die..if i can win the game..

bear bear is my hero...

who say cannot? i timewalk can reach you edi. Your teddy bear gets slow 30% and I open ult, 5 sec romantic time with you. I can do whatever I want. then i whack you until you tired.

of course my tower is always standing.

with timewalk I can come and go whenever I want.

How about geomancer?After 20 minute will be 4v1 and latest geomancer geostrike dmg increase.1 thread,assault,basher,vladmir,meka,radiance +(4x180)x4 Poof dmg+ net+geostrike total gg ness.FV aim one all aim him back.

This is such an easy question and has been prove over time again and again, Viper lah , only noobs will pick other heroes

your reply makes you an attention whore. know this, a whore rank is always below a noob. LOL

bane elemental can win viper? -,-' no way in hell

Hm.. I don't really see a problem with bane to win viper if the bane knows how to play...

Just a sample...
Say bane get Necro book, guinsoo, refresher orb should be able to kill viper easily, double ulti, hex, combine with the necro minion mana burn.

Of course sure can counter one... just one sample...

After all, it's player skill that matters...

sigh..if u include items then the debate will nvr going to end.....then i can say back to u wat if my viper have tis n tis n tat item??

all hero also can be countered...just need to c the individual skill.....

so, in 6.61, who isit?
troll or fv?
troll got total skill revamp but i havent have the chance to play troll.
and i think fv wins this time.

bane is deadly 1on1 dude
yup buy necrobook and have those things attack while doing your ulti

viper only has excellent lane control, esp now he got nethertoxin
but his late game sucks(and hes agi lol)
his teamfight presence sucks
no AoE

Then just make it simpler... If both also no item, no way viper can kill bane alone...

Well, bane can absorb viper hp and sleep. Bane might not be able to kill viper, but viper definitely not able to kill bane.

if they are melee, use nerubin assassin, learn return damage and boost health. if they are range, perhaps viper, enchantress. btw, normally mode for 1 on 1 is apomnp
and should choose hero in bewteen certain time frame. the monet start should be 875. not 4k

how about spectre?
just have ready a bottle wif illusions or manta wif the disperse aura and the extra damage skill. it works on illu.
go hunt jungling hero.

i think all this troll and fv talk is useless.. it depends on how well you farm.. if you get harrassed like hell early game i don't think you can get all those luxurious imba items laa.. just my two cents..

if you want to win 1v1 by pushing the towers, i think krobelus would be a safe bet.. can harrass with her 1st skill as well.. can silent hero.. quite ok what..

if go by push game, with 875 gold at the beginning, i think keeper of light or furion would be a good pushing hero.

Keeper can pressure the enemy like hell without have to worry mana. And furion can summon so many "ma zai" to push.

Another one could be broodmother, early game can invi and use skill 1 to push (consider only mid lah).

broodmother is a good pusher.. but i still think krobelus is better due to the "creep sweeping" skill and silencing.. lol

TIDEHUNTER

syllabear is champion of the individual duel ,his bear are really !!!! (strong) trust me ,syllabear always the champ of 1 on1