maths and addmaths different mah, Addmaths harder. Maths teaches things from form 1,2,3 but more detail.

this is why our education fail and our current education system,when the syllabus change,more ppl get A.Do u think it

is normal????our curent student are smarter compare to past???or our stupid gov just want to increase more A's

student .the stupid policy maker should made add maths also cover maths syllabus,

it is only waste more paper to out the paper if diffrentiate two subject.

beside add maths is low level,our maths is also too low level.

IF NOT these subject low level,why every year we ccan produce more full A's student compare to year back?

From my post,my english is sux right?guess wat,i get A1 in english...JOKE right?

when i go oversea,the most wat i can get is only around C+ to B.

this is y malaysia education fail badly...in 1960's -70's i guess malaysia education is good enough..more failure is

produced by this country..for wat? to let more ppl go in college or uni?this is why the certificate of tertiary education

is worth less and SPM is like rubbish paper .

This post has been edited by foofoosasa: May 29 2009, 06:52 PM

u got A1 in english thats you only. LOL your 1119 maybe worst.

yea correct,but my point iswhy made the syllabus ,grading system so low level????cant our grading system strict a bit?why always want make malaysia like "malaysia boleh".it is like..see malaysia education improve right?
more A's student woh...wat is the point?if scholarship problem they can just diffrentiate the requirement, dun make the whole syllabus become worse n worse la....sigh..malaysia education nth to say more = sh!t

lol, actually concentrating on a few subjects is a great idea.

It is to me that Malaysia should follow the Australian system.

For those who have no idea about Australia system, let me tell you all about it.

Australia has a ranking system. The best of the best gets to differentiate from the best. The upper average gets to differentiate from the average.
Basically, the system ranks students with aggregates generated by the scores for each of the assigned grade. A20 gives 20 marks, A19 gives 19 marks, so on and so on.
The possible grades to be obtained is very finely divided. Each grade represent 5% only. A20 simply means being from 95-100, A19 90-94, A18 85-89, so on and so forth.
The mark will not be scaled like what happen in SPM.

This is what we call standard.

Solution is always to tackle the root of the problem.
No need to apply sophisticated methods to tackle this problem & the solution could be so simple but effective to silence all critics.
Just scrap all those A, B, C, D & E for that matter.
Just focus on passing the papers thats enough. But make the exam extremely difficult that getting a pass is already an achievement.
If want to be more transparent just reveal actual marks in exam simply than just quoting A or B.
In that each mark is harder to obtained than before. Marks should not be offered linearly but at a step by step progression.
For example : 25% easy question, 25% average question, 25% hard question, 25% practical question (real life scenario)

That is the system of my current Uk professional qualification.

Well, similar concept. But I believe it's more acceptable to make A very difficult to get instead of making it very hard to pass. Somehow, some people here like A A A and A a lot.

I believe there exists a ratio for the hardness. 5:3:2 easy:normal:hard but I do not know how strictly they adhere to it.

But here's the followup question: Even if it's made to get those who scored the best, is there still room for affirmative action to take place? I'd say yes, and I'd infer that many of you want a tougher set of exams so that you can then use the meritocracy argument to say they're biased towards some race. But then again affirmative action is always biased

I say that we should put in tougher exams in replacement of SPM.. Limiting the number of subjects won't actually help the students to improve as a better person.. Most students are living in a false idea, scoring well in SPM only to suffer in Pre-U and uni.. Only a few actually worked their butts off to score straight As, or many As..

Raise the bar of SPM, stop fluctuating the grading system.. It's ridiculous to hear a passing mark for a paper is 8 while the A for another paper is like 60+. That way the students know their strength and weaknesses, thus able to improve themselves and creating a better future generation.

Sadly, the exam syndicate doesn't seem wanting to commit something like that. LOL...
Some people cannot score 80 but they still want A, so like that lo..

I have to disagree to be honest. I didn't do well for my SPM, or the mock SPM tests , but I did much better in my pre-u and my marks right now tend to be better than the marks I got when I was in secondary school doing add maths (and I'm studying maths/physics)

edit: bolded to show the part I'm referring to

This post has been edited by bgeh: May 29 2009, 11:35 PM

Well its about time it reduce to 10 subject. I remember the fever back in Amalina day. It's kinda stupid looking back.

I agree with tanjinjack. Now the only thing I afraid is lesser A's which mean parent will be piss even when their child really below average.

P.S: in House one patient says 'Why parent ALWAYS think their child always above average? Did'nt they know what average means?'

get I mean

for those ppl taking 1+ subjects in SPM,are they really study for getting more knowledge?or jz wan 2 get more A in exam?since its very easy 2 get more A in spm...

Indeed, a lot did want to get extra A, but there are still students want to learn extra knowledge, or seeking recognition for the skill they have learned. For my case, my Pendidikan Seni.

If it's limited to 10 subjects, then Chinese left 1 more subject to choose from if they are Pure Science students. This would make them want to drop Chinese and opt for the other subject as Chinese is very tough to get A1, probably the toughest. This certainly is not a healthy growth for the Chinese group. An agenda by the respective body to make Chinese not taking the language?

Also, for some students from famous schools that produces a lot of straight As students which also make Chinese language compulsory are going to suffer. They have no choice but to eat the hard bone - no taste and hard to eat.