I wonder how much is that?

how about your klip series? their sub not laku ar?

Ha-ha, monster vs beast (not Monsters vs Aliens).

Bro, when you wanna come over?

Btw, shall we meet at old place at abt 12.40pm tmw? Anyway, will sms you 20mins b4 i go there.

fuyoh..secret elite meeting..

wah... don't la put our bud in a tough spot

actually, his rythmik & my subm should sound very similar both being sealed.. maybe mine had a little more headroom with dual drivers. So I believe he should prefer the ported beast since he's looking for something different

Frankly I doubt I have golden ears. Probably only silver or brass There was a link posted in another thread for hearing tests based on pitch, tone, etc... did so-so only.

Anyway, both PB13 and Submersive have slightly different characteristics (probably due to being ported vs sealed). Both are top class models in their respective categories so the differences are not worlds apart. But also note a proper comparison wasn't done because both were in different rooms and importantly I didn't use the same BD to demo, so I didn't get a chance to hear the same scene on both subs. From general impressions:

1. The PB13 can be well behaved when tuned properly. Obviously at htkaki's place it was tuned properly (not hot) and had the benefit of AS-EQ1. It was also sitting on the Auralex platform. So bass was quite articulate and tight (not your typical ported sub). However, in terms of tightness and control the Submersive still edged it out (this is w/o AS-EQ1 or Auralex platform). There is a bit more definition with the Submersive.

2. The PB13 had a fuller, room filling bass sound. Maybe this is related to the group delay difference between ported vs sealed. It's like the bass has more body. Bass on the Submersive is more defined and focused. If you like your bass to shake the room then PB13 has slight advantage.

3. In terms of power, didn't push the Submersive really loud. Didn't push htkaki's PB13 that loud either but I did hear the PB13 in another person's house where it was really pushed and it overloaded the room (became too boomy). I suspect that if you pushed the Submersive hard it wouldn't overload the room so much.

These are the impressions so far. Wish I was able to do a more apples-to-apples comparison with the same BDs.

If you like defined and tight bass then probably sealed sub is the way to go.

haha... ur monster sub not yet arrived u wanna switch d?? hahaha.. joker la u

I was told that it's bestest is to get both

really? i got hooked up listening to music n not movie

then he will need both.. 

and since got both, can buy EQ1 also (to control 2 sub) 

benben79, try to call them before you go : 03 7955 1228

ronald, I paid a visit to Unc Ng on last weekend. Will go there again once everything is ready. I will prepare 'poison' for him. LOL....

Yes I am also trying to pay a visit to Asia Sound at Amcorp Mall.
But last Saturday they never open 
Paradigm speakers are good too.
If got money,surely I will buy Paradigm Signature S8.
But too expensive 
So maybe Synchrony more suitable.
Epik?
No la boss.
Maybe JL Audio F113 or DD12/DD15 might enough.
Since my room is just medium size.
Around 14 x 22.
And taukeh,a JL Audio F113 suitable for this room size?
If one maybe its okay.
If two I can;t do anything.
2 sub is veryyyyy expensive.

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Added on December 29, 2009, 12:22 am

Wow Taukeh.
Krell is nothing?
A hi end power amp can easily buy a condominium.
And if im not wrong its the KRELL FBI 
But im not a DATUK class,so no need to buy KRELL.
SF?Sonus Faber?
Though it is meant for music only?
And Klipsch Palladium is not cheap.
More than 10k USD 

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Added on December 29, 2009, 12:33 am

Ok boss.
Don't know why they always close.
Selling Hi end stuff such as RUNCO,Meridian and JL Audio also can do business like this
I went there 3times including last Saturday but still never open.
So ended up at A&L listening to PSB Synchrony One.
Really a very awesome speaker.
A floorstander speaker below 5k USD can achieve a soundstage like this is really unbelievable.
Or maybe their source is good too.
And boss you tested the Synchrony One recently also?
If for music,try to buy a Chinese Audiophile cd name Paramita.
During AV Show 2009,Perfect Hifi use this cd as their demo cd pair with Wilson Audio Sasha,Dcs Scarlatti and Pass lab mono.
Can buy a BMW with this set up.
And this cd(Paramita)song number 7 is really a suitable music to test speaker bass.
Just my opinion....