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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v2, Everything you need to know about bass!

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post Oct 9 2009, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 8 2009, 10:53 PM)
from 12-30hz, svs tapau f113 also.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 9 2009, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(HornyAngMoh @ Oct 9 2009, 08:57 AM)
See! Now u get to really enjoy Bulu ray! Investment in a good subby is most rewarding! thumbup.gif  Just imagine how it would be like if u have invested in TWO SVS PB-13U! brows.gif
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of coz he also got 50inch kuro la.. try enjoy that on 29in CRT.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 12 2009, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(hsiengloong @ Oct 12 2009, 11:08 AM)
Dont need subdude, buy the AS EQ 1 la, one off solution. Dont need bass trap and whatever.

HTkaki came over my pad yday and help me calibrate my set with the inclusion of my new baby, the AS EQ 1..

Previously i was very sceptical that such product can work magic on the bass as i experienced very loose, muddy and boomy bass.. After setting up the As EQ 1, listening to bass was a different thing.. Tight, solid and clean bass..

As what both Ron and Htkaki say, after flicking the switch on and off a few times, i'm pretty sure my AS EQ 1's switch will be left 'on' AFAIK... Downside is, i'm still trying to adapt to certain scenes where the bass suddenly doesnt have the loud effect anymore (visible in transformers scene, the first scene "helicopter scene" and the airport "explosion scene")... Not boomy, and clean bass but stg's missing and that will be because of the near flat graph i assume..

Another thing to notice is that, after calibrating my set using the SPL meter, all my speakers (LCR, Surr & sub) trim were set to -9db sad.gif... Even setting to -12db trim on my AVR but still couldnt achieeve the 75db reference level on the SPL meter.. Probably HTkaki can shed some light on this and the solution..

But nevertheless, i think this AS EQ-1 has solved most of my bass problems biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2009, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 13 2009, 06:23 PM)
tested U-571 with -11dB gain at my Onkyo 875 which was LOUD and my my shocking.gif ... farking good explosion scenes (sub under attack by german destroyer). The submersive was moving so much air I could feel it with my feet drool.gif

didn't know a sealed sub could do that... rclxms.gif
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you gets what you pays for.. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 13 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Oct 13 2009, 11:49 PM)
fuyooo can tapao 13-U?? biggrin.gif
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u must be joking.. biggrin.gif sure la..
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post Oct 14 2009, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 13 2009, 11:57 PM)
i dun think can tapao 13-ultra.. sweat.gif

i never heard ultra b4 but belief both have different acquired tastes wink.gif
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different class lor.. even the retail price reflects that...

but of coz, if 13-u + EQ1 vs 1 submersive, then different story lor, especially in difficult room conditions..

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post Oct 14 2009, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Oct 14 2009, 12:43 AM)
maybe u all can try to play tis song

see whose sub can really go "LOW" biggrin.gif

Low by Flo Rida Feat. T-Pain
also dun forget my all time fav. BOOMBOOM POW biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif
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I tot your theme song is Tokyo drift soundtrack.. laugh.gif
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post Oct 14 2009, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 14 2009, 09:54 AM)
u mean buy another pb13U so I have best of both worlds? Funny my fren said the same thing hmm.gif

For discussion's sake, is it ok to mix sealed & ported subs?
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ronn, maybe you can check with htkaki if the EQ1 can help boost the 20Hz response of the submersive slightly hotter (say 3db higher) (to make it a little more "ported" response..)

since the EQ1 can help "shape" the sub response curve..

then liddat one EQ1 + 1 submersive cukup lor.. biggrin.gif

I men if one submersive + 13U also still will need the EQ1 , so next succession path is still getting an EQ1 rather than one new 13-U..
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post Oct 15 2009, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 15 2009, 10:56 AM)

Useable Output ** 116db
Recommended Amplification up to 1000 watts
Impedance 4 ohm
Dimensions 30"x22.5"x20"
Weight 98lbs
Construction 18mm Birch
Exterior Finish Textured coating
Connectors Dual Speakon

And these are outdoor readings only brows.gif

USD1,000/pc ... doesn't come with amp though tongue.gif
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so what power or amp required to make it 116db? 300W BASH plate amp enuf ar? biggrin.gif or need B&O ICE power 1000W ?
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post Oct 19 2009, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(chewkl @ Oct 18 2009, 11:40 PM)
I think U missed a very important word "budget". sweat.gif
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SVS the budget version 12NSD, very nice.. no need to upgrade for a while... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 19 2009, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(chewkl @ Oct 19 2009, 06:48 PM)
OK let me clarify, preferable anything below RM3k. sweat.gif

Velo CHT-12Q and Whafy SW300 anjua?
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you should have gone to htkaki's event with 10% off.. slightly over 3k can get SVS liao.. who know maybe luckily to have won the 500-1k vouchers.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 19 2009, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(chewkl @ Oct 19 2009, 08:46 PM)
Hornyangmoh, SW300 also got EQ and RC leh...but I dunno the price...agak agak tembak that model cos I think it is a budget 12". biggrin.gif
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chewkl, I'm only afraid you spend 2k+ for your budget solution and end up with a 1073 realtek rather than minimum a C-200... (using media player analogy which you understand well) biggrin.gif
go for SVS la.. I don't think CHT or AS sub also anywere near the performance of a 3+k SVS..
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post Oct 19 2009, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 19 2009, 10:11 PM)
taukeh ar188, lead by example la.. whistling.gif
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biggrin.gif this month budget blown on 19in T1-R liao..
no more disposable to buy SVS or seaton.. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 19 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(chewkl @ Oct 19 2009, 10:15 PM)
a boom is a boom is a boom. No? sweat.gif

Anyways U open challenge taukeh AR later he will go setup 7.2 with 2 Submersive then U know. Sei mei? thumbup.gif
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bos, not really.. low 15-20Hz (at usable db) is really different from those other subs which seem to be able to play more of mid bass....

as for the second part.. dun say liddat la.. ronn's pad interior decor and HT equipment dem elite, he's different level la.... notworthy.gif

me, always on optimization for HT gear.. I can't bring my self to spend that much on HT gear anymore...

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post Oct 20 2009, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Oct 20 2009, 12:11 AM)
4 set of rubber ..kacang puteh to u la on ur myvi  thumbup.gif  rolleyes.gif

u seriously need to lead by example as keep on promoting alot good stuffs here on SVS

so peasant n juniors like us can follow TAIKO n TAUKEH's example  thumbup.gif
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I should promote 275 T1-R for your M-sport also.. many bavarian owner say veli good on their car.. thumbup.gif

anyway, hard to call yourself with 700 blu-rays as peasants.. (700 x 60 = 42000) thumbup.gif
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post Oct 20 2009, 12:21 AM

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CSC is quite crap.. tongue.gif

as for BD library.. I think you are the most liao..

you also want PC-12 ar? like mpyw only?
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post Oct 20 2009, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 20 2009, 12:23 AM)
walau eh...700bds wt elite ht setup. Tun Mega oni half ur mark in bd. Btw, I've got d package for Ron. Will bring it bk on Wed.
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u terbalik liao.. 1 only got 100bd.. biggrin.gif he got 7 times more..

ron gave you package? SVS RS mics ar?
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post Oct 20 2009, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 20 2009, 12:36 AM)
oops... Drank 2 much liao jz now. Paiseh.

No, aint Ron. He's in China now. I meant EQ1. Along wt it are SVS sub cables n RS SPL meters.
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I knew you gonna get these... anyway head to AVS to get the weighting adjustments for RS SPL.. low frequency need to adjust the weighting..


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QUOTE(chewkl @ Oct 20 2009, 02:03 PM)
See? Told U English teacher is a confirmed elite. thumbup.gif
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look at all his cheese?! biggrin.gif

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post Oct 21 2009, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 21 2009, 09:28 AM)
Tqvm for the info.
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yeah good info, but notice the heavy weightings below 25HZ..
no wonder sometimes you need to run them extra hot for the LFE kick..
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post Oct 27 2009, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Oct 27 2009, 01:33 PM)
me read pening also, and understand how?
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sure you dun understand la.. your sub also not up to his expectation yet.. minimum also need Z5500 logitech.. then only boom boom pow! tongue.gif

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