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What can I get from e-manage for 4g93
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TSkayef
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May 21 2009, 09:32 AM, updated 17y ago
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Guys,
I'm driving a wira 1.8 LE 1996. Condition of car is good and everything is stock. No mods on intake or exhaust or whatsoever. The other day was at a workshop and met a guy who told me his friend's wira same as mine and gained 20hp like that after installing e-manage.
What I want to know is how much hp can I really gain from a stock setup if for my 4g93 engine if I install the e-manage blue with ignition harness?
What are the pros and cons of having the e-manage blue installed?Is it worth it?
Anyone with the same engine done this?How much hp gained?
If its really that good then I think I wanna install it also.
Thanks
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siksa
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May 21 2009, 12:10 PM
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It Can Be Use(Tune) To Improve HP/Torque And FC But It Is Better To Mod Engine(CAI,Exhaust,P&P,Cam ETC) First,Before Using It.
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the_catacombs
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May 21 2009, 01:01 PM
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wait i go zth copy n paste my post to u
1 word of advice, install piggyback ecu when u need it... stock setting dont need additional ecu to fine tune setting... coz stock standard setting matches with ur ecu setting.... by adding additional ecu will only gain u vr vr minor bhp (approx 5bhp, mayb)....
start with intake n exhaust first... den move on to highcams, pnp, larger TB, larger injectors... den only u can consider having piggyback ecu....
This post has been edited by the_catacombs: May 21 2009, 01:02 PM
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TSkayef
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May 21 2009, 03:46 PM
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For intake must use open pod ar?
Exhaust my car already have 4-2-1 and connected to twin pipe muffler, how to improve this part some more?
About highcams, will it disturb my idling or the problem can be solved by e-manage?
PnP might do la later, larger TB will wait for my TB to spoil first.
Larger injectors will cause higher fuel consumption?
My main point is to unleash any trapped power that is in the car so that FC don go up so high or maybe can help save a bit also at the same time. Don' really need to add drastic power surge at this moment.
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huakenny
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May 25 2009, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(kayef @ May 21 2009, 03:46 PM) For intake must use open pod ar? Exhaust my car already have 4-2-1 and connected to twin pipe muffler, how to improve this part some more? About highcams, will it disturb my idling or the problem can be solved by e-manage? PnP might do la later, larger TB will wait for my TB to spoil first. Larger injectors will cause higher fuel consumption? My main point is to unleash any trapped power that is in the car so that FC don go up so high or maybe can help save a bit also at the same time. Don' really need to add drastic power surge at this moment. intake can be open pod or drop-in as long as it is performance air filter ekzos system upgraded to ur preferred pipe size n muffler setup change to high performance spark plug port n polish and replace oversize piston fuel regulator i guess its fun to drive
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joehan
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May 26 2009, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 21 2009, 01:01 PM) wait i go zth copy n paste my post to u 1 word of advice, install piggyback ecu when u need it... stock setting dont need additional ecu to fine tune setting... coz stock standard setting matches with ur ecu setting.... by adding additional ecu will only gain u vr vr minor bhp (approx 5bhp, mayb)....
start with intake n exhaust first... den move on to highcams, pnp, larger TB, larger injectors... den only u can consider having piggyback ecu....yups. very true.
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ajashi
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May 26 2009, 12:48 AM
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on stock wira? better not la. the thing cost a bomb, but hp/torque increase not much. 20hp sure is lie. better use that money to change bigger piston and rebore ur block, for bigger displacement. sure more worth it. or save a bit more, do bolt on turbo. from my experience, when u have engine that is more powerful, FC sure is high when u tekan laju2. but when drive normally ( no sudden accelerate and breaking, speed around 90-100kmh) FC become more economical (save).
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amad108
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Jun 11 2009, 09:46 AM
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but fyi.. last time i only use reprogramable ecu for my wira 1.6 perform better then previous.. without any mod to my engine... but this ecu are being told to test from my mech.. higher rpm seam more lighter n rpm rev cut being increase to 9k so i can reach 110kkm/h just only for 2nd gear (this for cornering purpose n 0-100 timing) but only for 4g92p sohc lol.. other engines i dunno..
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shinjite
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Jun 11 2009, 11:21 AM
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means u need to get additional tachometer Our tacho stock max till 8k only
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the_catacombs
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Jun 11 2009, 11:01 PM
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actually i dont see any benefit raising rev cut... not that we alwiz rev to the limit everyday...
raising rev cut is needed if ur engine can output more horsepower beyond ur oem rev cut... this is true especially for cars with higher cam profile...
of coz revving the nuts out of ur engine, u need to beef it up first... better head stud, metal head gasket, forged conrods, etc... not to forget good port n polish intake exhaust, stiffer valve springs, stronger retainers, race engine bearings, etc...
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TSkayef
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Jun 12 2009, 01:07 AM
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So I might actually get some good improvements on FC and power with emanage blue?
Now the question is are those improvements worth it for RM1450?
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the_catacombs
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Jun 12 2009, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(kayef @ Jun 12 2009, 01:07 AM) So I might actually get some good improvements on FC and power with emanage blue? Now the question is are those improvements worth it for RM1450? if u really need it, yes worth it... if ur car runs fine... depends how deep is ur pocket...
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maddriver
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Jun 12 2009, 07:07 AM
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standard ecu mapping for protons are usually running slightly rich on the top end ........ About 30 per cent. With e manage, u can get slightly more power out of the car from mid to top of the rev range........ About 10hp at the most........
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detomaso
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Jun 12 2009, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 11 2009, 11:01 PM) actually i dont see any benefit raising rev cut... not that we alwiz rev to the limit everyday... raising rev cut is needed if ur engine can output more horsepower beyond ur oem rev cut... this is true especially for cars with higher cam profile... of coz revving the nuts out of ur engine, u need to beef it up first... better head stud, metal head gasket, forged conrods, etc... not to forget good port n polish intake exhaust, stiffer valve springs, stronger retainers, race engine bearings, etc... engine balancing is more importance rather than changing all to performance part. done 11k rpm balancing on my lightened crank and flywheel.
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the_catacombs
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Jun 12 2009, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(detomaso @ Jun 12 2009, 11:27 AM) engine balancing is more importance rather than changing all to performance part. done 11k rpm balancing on my lightened crank and flywheel.  yaya forgot to mention engine balancing
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rakyat
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Jun 12 2009, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 12 2009, 12:35 PM) yaya forgot to mention engine balancing  Noobie question.... wat is involved in engine balancing? Normally wat price range? RMXXX or RMXXXX?
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the_catacombs
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Jun 12 2009, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Jun 12 2009, 05:42 PM) Noobie question.... wat is involved in engine balancing? Normally wat price range? RMXXX or RMXXXX? normal balancing around rmxxx... full engine blueprint cost around rmxxxx... more info on engine balancing can ask maddriver... he got offer such service...
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amad108
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Jun 13 2009, 10:29 AM
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for me e-manage only can gain something if there is modification on ur engine.. but if u hv in mind a lot of upgrade in future time, yes indeed e-manage is required... but for those who's alwz rev high like me, i keep it standard part as much as i could, can last longer i presume with small budget.. coz i not that rich meh.. hehe
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