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Takashi
post Jun 17 2009, 11:54 AM

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may i know that is that everyone is welcome to attend the AGM or just for the choosen or being invited?
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post Jun 17 2009, 12:04 PM

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so... any of u plan to attend the AGM? wondering how many percent if all of us added up...
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post Jun 17 2009, 12:10 PM

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550 lots counted??? how do they know whether u hold their shares?? coz i traded using maybank2u. anyway, thx for the reply.
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post Jun 17 2009, 08:08 PM

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i think the bottom line for compugates is 0.05. dont think will be lower than that, otherwise their business partner will have zero trust on them. would u give any contract to a company that couldnt protect their share price? (which mean lack of cash flow = financial prob).

the price gap is around 0.07 to 0.12 .... coz if someone would plan to push the price above 0.12... at least 6-8 mils involve due to 25% of shares are among someone for fast money investment.

anyway just my 0.02... see u guys on AGM
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post Jun 18 2009, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(ABC2020 @ Jun 18 2009, 05:54 PM)
If you hold the goreng counter which the price already shooting sky, better cut........... for compugt, peace of mind... drop from 0.175 sen to 0.065 sen, already drop 63%......
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what u mean is this counter is not advisable to hold or pay attention to??

haha anyway, i got another 100lots on 0.07 ...... hopefully the bottom line is as what i've forecasted. 0.05 is the lowest. i think ppl who planning to hold this counter... kindly prepare more cash,.. i dont think this is a short battle... might drag for 1-2 months to see rebound.
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post Jun 18 2009, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(smartly @ Jun 18 2009, 06:00 PM)
is 0.05sen reachable ?
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might be... if the all red for another 1 week. coz for those who invest on others counter and use margin to buy compugates, they will receive margin call or force sell if the market is continuous down. since the main counter the hold is running at the lost .. so the margin limit is reducing accordingly to the percentage the shares they hold....

so.... if 500 person holding 200 lots of compugates using margin... on next week they will be another 100000000 shares into the market...( haha just a thought ... no any info supported... dont worry)


anyway good luck guys... see how the AGM tomorrow.... see u there
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post Jun 18 2009, 06:17 PM

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no one going to AGM tomorrow?
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post Jun 19 2009, 04:39 PM

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hi guys... just got back... anyone knew bout the second half of the AGM? i left early... anyway, good news to cash buyer and not so good for short times invester....

2 weeks dream might not come true... + shareholder wont make any profitable plan shortly b4 they restructure the % of the company.

for me.. i would call 1 month to see result. good or bad depend on u all.... ** cant really talk much here.

anyway, some investers who attent said is a plot, coz the couples dont wanna dump in more $$$ into the company and created a big future image to grap more $$ from public for them to tender the new project, just rumors... who knows....

for me... i would call a hold...
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post Jun 19 2009, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(omione @ Jun 19 2009, 04:39 PM)
To be real, the operator will not want to push the price now. There's no synergy. Too tough to do. The surge this morning, I believe, was by the retail. And the operator pulled the brake. I believe, the time the company officially announces the sand deal and the extraordinary profit from commission, that's when the action begins.
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dont think will happen shortly.... couples remain as the keyman, but due to some internal $$$, i think they need more cash being inject into the company.... hahah guess what, most of the host gone throught the forums to spread some good info... might be true or might be a plot for short term investers.....endup maargin call....

for this counters, i heard from a TA guys today.... within 2 weeks.... those ikan bilis lost more than 1millions+
to the sharks or shareholders.... who knows.. coz they use different acc.

ready for cash if u r plan to hold this counter... prepare for couples of months... 2-3 maybe.
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post Jun 19 2009, 04:53 PM

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4 millions shares more to see the bright future...
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post Jun 19 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(omione @ Jun 19 2009, 05:29 PM)
You mean you're buy 4 million shares more? That means you're currently holding 4 million shares already.


Added on June 19, 2009, 5:32 pm
How about Repco Low? He'll shoot it to Rm400 per share.
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not me, owing the 4 millions shares... just that there r 4 millions shares in market which block the rebound.... major shareholders couldnt manipulate the price when there r too much % of shares in market.. unless someone who intend to be somebody in the company, buy at once... then u will see the rebound shortly....too many ikan bilis holding this counter.... they have to drag on for certain time frame to restructure the % of the shares......wait is all i can say.. the gov project and sand trading do not really seem to gain big money... coz it's still under consideration....but it's the main point ppls holding this counter....

i have a thought, if nothing serious happen to the financial support of compugates. holding for 12-18 months for the global market to recover where another bull run might taken place.... TP is about 8X from now.

it happened to one of the counter i invested in year 2006... made a small fortune... affin-wa ....about 5X.

anyway, just my 0.02.... no hard feeling and no offence, forget bout my bullshiting....


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post Jun 19 2009, 11:56 PM

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ok... regarding on the 8X ....based on 0.07 now.... when the bull run comes, CI will be like crazy and daily trade will exceed 4billions which is like 4X now.

most of the counter in main board especially top 100 bluechip (composite counters) will gain 50% or 100% up, after than they will target on second board or mid range counter, where most of the brokers named it as second wave or third wave.... the last will be mesdaq (final wave).... previously, the 1st bull run will always aim on finance counter, then construction and bla bla bla... so i bought some affin-wb on 0.09 (numbers of lots) during sep then the 1st bull run hit MY market and affin-wb gone up to 0.78 cents, of coz i wont take the risk to the peak.. sold within 0.4-0.5xx.

nowaday, the market changed since global crisis... no more on finance (due to tons of bad debt) so.. MY market will be on plantation and oil... that's the reason they pick KNM as the leader to guide the trades. construction will be the next if no major crisis for the next 6 months... (Spsetia and mkland is launching more than 80 units of banglo which sell more than 1 millions each) and the properties fare is at the curve today....

if global market dowm = construction/properties DEAD.

anyway, just my 0.02... might make sense / might not ... take it as i'm bullshiting. no offence and no hard feeling


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post Jun 20 2009, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(zaurus @ Jun 20 2009, 12:43 AM)
perhaps technology stocks could be the next big thing ... got a number of good counters like ASIABIO and SANICHI which traded around +0.10 sen with good balance sheet that still have yet to get wide coverage. huge upside potential for long term investing.

anyhow, on compugt, today we got lucky, on monday would test the 14 days MA resistance. might break, might not. if it does breaks, my reckoning it will peak at 0.11 at most, then using the 50 days MA as resistance, which also coincide with the Fib retracement at 61.8%. If not, probably going sideways for a month.

I am more speculative, won't be holding that long. there are many counters on sale. smile.gif
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the MACD or MA and RSI couldn't really apply on this counter due to the UMA. u will see over buy or over sell on certain period... as ur statement... tech section is really attractive, but i think ppls will only focus on that during bullrun after all major counter price up... i might be wrong.


anyway, US 8,580.92 +25.32 +0.30% during 1st half (12 noon) .... seem monday will be a fresh day... i hope so... good nite guys
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post Jun 20 2009, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 20 2009, 05:09 PM)
Bare in mind, the 5x effect actually part is come from gearing effect of warrant.

Don't mean whether this counter can 5x or 8x or not, just it is possible and easy to achieve 5x 10x gaining effect through warrant compared to ordinary stock.
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this counter is different.... actual market value might be around 20+ cents before "any goreng" and during 1st to 3rd waves, majorities of the counter among 20-40 cents will have double up.... so.. this counter has the potential to reach certain price.

compugates planing to spend 6m to buy a development company and has zero debt to bank... so.. make up ur mind...


to zpow.... bravo.. thx for the statement.... as same as i have thought.. just a prediction... good luck
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post Jun 20 2009, 10:52 PM

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650 lots... no money d.. dont wanna hold with margin as such critical moment.... but anyway... i think moonrider is the major holder here... During AGM there r few guys hold more than 8000 units (i guess buying price is above 0.08).. that's what i heard.. and crusing the couple and all compugates shareholders.. hahahhaa
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post Jun 22 2009, 01:00 AM

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infact, i had done some analysis but need some times to arrange them to post here... cut it short..

compugates brought over PPAB (Pan Pacific Asia Bhd) to be listed on 2005, since june 1997, Compugates sdn bhd been appointed as the main distributor for canon marketing (M) sdn bhd for distribution of digital camera.

so .. based of the past record, canon is kinda statisfy with the performance of compugates, that's the reason y, even the UMA of compugates but still has no any negative news from canon to terminate business with compugates. (let's say, if the financial of the company or the directors is going to cause the company down to zero, will canon remain silence or hunting for the new distributor?)

feb, 2000 >>>Appointed as Celcom's authorised distributor
sep 2000 >>>Appointed as distributor for Panasonic ( Malaysia ) Sdn Bhd for distribution of printers and scanners

and now they r the main distributor for celcom Xpac...

therefore, how do we gonna finalize the statement? bear in mind, the counter couldnt apply to certain analysis program or tools due to the UMA which caused by margin call.

1stly, the company has zero debt to bank, so i dont care whether the goh "hutang ah long personally" the finanical statement and balance sheet seem to be healthy. the PE is within accepatble range based on the usual price (which is before the margin call, not 0.07)..

2ndly, there is a buy back during the margin call duration, someone or group "park" couples of million RM on the price of 0.06 to 0.07. this movement can be waved if their intention is to make the couple die... they could just let the price drop to 0.05 maybe .. or even lesser...what i have in my mind is, the par value is 0.10. and their bottom line might be on 0.065 or 0.07 in order for them to protect the company from losing any contract... if u were canon, ur main distributor cant even protect or hold their company share from decreasing to a certain level... will u still remain as a core partner with them??? for me i'll cut lost..

there r still many info regarding on the company,,... anyway just my 0.02 words..

i still remain a HOLD for this counter... long term investment would be 12-18 months (based on the recovery of bear to bull for past global crisis). For the 7X theory, anyway ... u can say is just that i'm bullshitting...whenever a bullrun comes, fund manager, big shark or oversea investor will target on main board especially composite counter... and now.. let check all main board counter where compugates is the only one far below market value in mainboard....if compugates could retain at 0.15-0.18 as the usual price, .... during bullrun, investors will "goreng" or u named it manipulate the shares in main board to grap more $$$ into market where u can see 2-4 billions of transaction per day...coz everybody like us... and feel more safe to invest in main board rather than mesdaq... so .. they will pick a leader to lead the whole market, might be KNM, IOI or some oil companies... and then sooner or later will select mid range counter which is below RM1, to push compugates from 0.2 to 0.4 u need about 18-20millions based on 30% of the shares rolling amount the shares market.

GOh has disposed about 40 percent into the market, maybe 10% was in dato' goh's group, and 30% is within outsiders, where 30% at 0.75 approxiamately RM6 millions+ - .... if their gov project is gonna make them a big fortune, the price of the shares will definately goes up to a certain level... maybe 0.12-0.15 .. and this might takes months.. if the price is 0.15 and 30% is equal to 120M... and big shark could easily gather 120m from the public to double up the price if they wanna "goreng" ...**there would only apply if no shareholders or director dispose shares for short profits....

anyway,, i think i talk too much here.. might not make sense to u guys.. good nite and good luck in the morning....if someone thought of deleting this.. kindly inform me...


Added on June 22, 2009, 1:11 am
QUOTE(omione @ Jun 21 2009, 10:59 PM)
Moonrider,

I think your assessment is rather conservative. At this time, as most of you expert may believe, the market may be on the edge of pullback. But the economy in the medium term is on the recovery track. After the pullback, I think Compugates will be pushed up together with the next rally. If the expected pullback fails to materialize, I am not surprised that Compugates may be pushed back up to 17 sens within 2 to 3 weeks. This really depends on the economic data coming out of Wall Street. At 1060, we are still far from recovery. If you were right, it could happen only after the share had surged, and then fallback to 15 sen.
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u r right, 1060CI is nothing and far beyond recovery. if TM group and canon sales is really in a deep shit then compugates will running in red as well.. so keep eyes on their business partner as well.... but however, this counter is below market value so dont worry too much... if it's really drop to 0.05 .. then what the forumers concern is true. PN17 /PN4. so just a matter of times, i would advise to hold this counter with OWN cash, whcih mean dont borrow money to hold this counter, no one can knows what happen next, might takes forever to rebound or might takes days, might be delisted.....as my point of view, i believed, i would hold for a certain times for at least till the budget day of 2009.. hahahahhaa

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post Jun 22 2009, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 22 2009, 01:42 AM)
Takashi - Do you know what is the outlook like for Compugate in the next 3-6 months? Even tho their last balance sheet seems to be ok but what is their projection for next 2-3 quarters?  Being a business and consumer electronics distributor, I will be surprise if their business is NOT affected by the downturn in this economy.  If they announce a sudden loss or low visibility going into future, you will continue to see more downwards pressure in this counter. By then, you know the true reason for insider selling is not really margin call but the director knew in advance what their books look like, profits are all but gone and they're starting to see more red ink in their books, therefore they could have plan to dispose their shares before it hits even lower because debt will begin piling up due to on going costs.  For those fundamentalists, go look at Compugate competitors and suppliers, and see how they're doing.

This is speculative only and worse case scenario - like you, it may not make much sense.. just more bearish sentiments here..going forward.   laugh.gif
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Good statements... guys who hold the share should study on the counter for all kind of posibilities.... trading on shares is more like gamble with some analysis info, and of coz with certain rules.

There is always a RISK ... so, really read what danmooncake sounds out.

For me, there is RISK for every counter, i have a same thought b4 AGM too, but if the directors is really affriad of the downtrend of the business, the couples shouldn't remain as the keyman. coz they will "cabut" 1st with all the money they gain. secondly, Y Dato Goh would be so interested on the shares if something wrong with it ???? , maybe it's a plot to grap more outsiders to hold their shares in order to let all shareholders and director to dispose their share without public panic... i guess not, of coz the bad market will reduce the buying power for sure, but i do believe it wont be a "forever" so... as long as the company is capable, it will back to the track as where it was..

anyway, good luck and thx for danmooncake warning the holders not to be blind following trend without any analysis.

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post Jun 22 2009, 10:39 AM

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if calculate the 1st day is last monday, then T+3 on thursday, so T+8 will be coming wednesday, if continuos red for 2 more days, wednesday will be getting worse....
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:15 AM

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now is the game between hidden buying force VS brokers and margin call players ... as i said 5millions to go on last week and left about 4 millions now
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post Jun 22 2009, 03:03 PM

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expected closing full red as well, coz HK second half not really doing well

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